The legislature may end up reverting the makeup days...

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear


There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.



This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.


This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....


Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.


This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

Can someone post the MCEA communication?
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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear


There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.



This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.


This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....


Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.


This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.


They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.


MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).


Last year they scheduled 182 days. This year would have been the same, but they lost one for the transition day.


They didn't "lose" a day to the transition day. They added a transition day in and ergo there were only 181 days. The transition day wasn't some unplanned event.
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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear


There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.



This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.


This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....


Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.


This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.


They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.


MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).


Last year they scheduled 182 days. This year would have been the same, but they lost one for the transition day.


They didn't "lose" a day to the transition day. They added a transition day in and ergo there were only 181 days. The transition day wasn't some unplanned event.


The point being they subtracted a day rather than adding one to account for the transition day so they could stay at 182.
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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear


There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.



This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.


This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....


Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.


This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.


They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.


MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).


Last year they scheduled 182 days. This year would have been the same, but they lost one for the transition day.


They didn't "lose" a day to the transition day. They added a transition day in and ergo there were only 181 days. The transition day wasn't some unplanned event.


An event that makes no sense when previously there was a half day the week of preservice that served the same purpose! Why they moved it to a school day and made it full day is beyond me. I think Kindergarten didn't use the preservice orientation day previously, so the change should have been just to include them in that day instead. A full day is too much for a non instructional day!
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When is the last date they can decide this? I’ve already paid for camp for that week. I’m hoping they will let me switch to a week at end of summer instead.
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Anonymous wrote:When is the last date they can decide this? I’ve already paid for camp for that week. I’m hoping they will let me switch to a week at end of summer instead.


MCPS will wait til the day they can do the most negative impact to plans for all involved. They really truly do suck at everything involving planning. You don't see this with neighboring districts like HoCo or DCPS.
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If they close school tomorrow, how does that affect the last day? Could it still be June 18 or it has to extend to the last week of June
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Anonymous wrote:If they close school tomorrow, how does that affect the last day? Could it still be June 18 or it has to extend to the last week of June


I can't image a closure tomorrow. At the most, I could see an early dismissal.
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Anonymous wrote:If they close school tomorrow, how does that affect the last day? Could it still be June 18 or it has to extend to the last week of June


They would have another day to make up. Which is why I think it will be ER and not closed if they can get away with it.
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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear


There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.



This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.


This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....


Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.


This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.


They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.


MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).


Last year they scheduled 182 days. This year would have been the same, but they lost one for the transition day.


They didn't "lose" a day to the transition day. They added a transition day in and ergo there were only 181 days. The transition day wasn't some unplanned event.


An event that makes no sense when previously there was a half day the week of preservice that served the same purpose! Why they moved it to a school day and made it full day is beyond me. I think Kindergarten didn't use the preservice orientation day previously, so the change should have been just to include them in that day instead. A full day is too much for a non instructional day!


+1, they should go back to the old schedule and let kindergarteners have an extended orientation then (a couple of hours). A full day isn't necessary and certainly they should not be delaying the start of school for this.
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Just a gentle reminder that March 9, 2027, Eid-al-Fitr, has been adopted as a PD/makeup day. I look forward to seeing you all here again have the same conversation.
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So is it a correct assumption that after yesterday the plan to end before the 26th is dead? Any teachers or staff heard anything?
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Anonymous wrote:So is it a correct assumption that after yesterday the plan to end before the 26th is dead? Any teachers or staff heard anything?


What are you talking about? What happened yesterday that would affect this?
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Our staff is being told that the final announcement will come before spring break (probably next Friday at 4:59pm). I don't think yesterday's early closure will affect the decision one way or another. Teachers are just as frustrated as parents since many of us are parents and many of us work other jobs over the summer and need to plan accordingly.
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Looks like there will be a Senate hearing on the bill on March 24 at 1pm
https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Details/HB1084?ys=2026rs
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