The legislature may end up reverting the makeup days...

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they use 6/19? They have school on other federal holidays such as Veterans Day.

They don't like to use holidays because they have to pay more. There is a lot that MCPS doesn't like to do. They would rather push the calendar further in the hopes of a state bailout. They are not about actually offering school.

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The I Hate Politics podcast this week discussed the state bill: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/counting-the-days-counting-the-hours-mcps-snow/id1557043161

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all underestimate the power of the teacher's union. If their union is telling folks the last day will be June 18, then I believe it. Why would they put that out there to over 10,000 teachers if they didn't already know this to be true?

I highly doubt they believe that to be true. COMAR is clear on the requirements for a waiver and MCPS won't meet them unless they find another day.

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They need to figure this out..the camp providers have no idea what is going on or if they should run that week.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

Disinformation doesn't have to make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.

MSDE already denied a MCPS waiver that only included 2 make-up days.

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We wouldn’t be in this mess if mcps would’ve been willing to have school on Muslim
Holidays and a virtual contingency plan. All in the name of DEI though.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

Although that won't be the case if they go April 15 and there's no more missed days. April 15 is a new add on, which should take the calendar back to June 25.....

For heavens sake.

The News

We are making the following calendar adjustments now:

April 15, previously scheduled as a non-instructional day for teacher grading and planning at the end of the marking period, will now be an early-release day for students.

Impact on the Last Day of School
As you know, this winter’s severe weather forced us to close schools several times. Under current Maryland regulations, those missed days have to be made up either through designated make-up days in the calendar and, if necessary, by extending the school year. That is why we recently announced that our calendar had been adjusted to add days to the end of our school year, setting the last day of school to June 26.

June 26 includes having the Apr 15 make up day

Sorry. I forgot about the impact of reverting March 20.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.

MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.

MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).

When I started in MCPS they scheduled 184 days. Their current scheduling is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.

MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).

When I started in MCPS they scheduled 184 days. Their current scheduling is ridiculous.

It's not "dumb," it's purposeful and reflects MCPS priorities. If MCPS schedules only 181 days of school, there's a good chance their staff will get lucky and have fewer days to actually work like this year where they will only work 175 days depending on how this clusterf* of scheduling pans out. MCPS staff get more paid vacation during these snow days that don't get made up, and they're happy. Kids meanwhile continue to see their educational outcomes decline.

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Anonymous wrote:The email adding April 15 was intentionally vague because they’re counting on this bill passing. They won’t officially say anything until the outcome is clear

There was nothing vague about the email. it clearly said school ends June 26

It said they recently announced last day would be June 25. But they’re applying waiver to avoid going to the last week of June. Nothing about the school will definitely end on June 26.

This. My understanding is that the Senate will not take up the legislation changing the 180 requirement to and/or.
So that option is dead. The new plan is showing a good faith effort to add some instructional days (April 15) and asking MDSE to waive the rest. The intel I heard was pretty confident that would happen and the last day would be June 18. The note was cryptic in that it said “watch for another update before spring break” which is when they are hoping to finalize this plan B.

This is correct. MCEA already informed it's members that if the state legislature bill is not passed, MSDE will not make school go into the the week of 6/21. State BOE will honor a waiver if there is school on 6/17 and 6/18, plus one additional day (which I'm assuming is April 15). More info coming before spring break....

Is the mention of 6/17 from you or from MCEA? That doesn't make any sense since 6/17 was always a school day, so it should have nothing to do with getting a waiver or not.

This is from MCEA...I agree that it doesn't make a ton of sense, but that is what the note said.

They scheduled 181 days of school in the calendar so maybe 6/17 counts as the first makeup day? Then they are adding the other two days. Then maybe state says they will waive 2.

MCPS is stupid to only schedule 181 days. Where I grew up in New York State we had 184 days scheduled (4 snow days) and if they weren't used, we'd end earlier in June. Massachusetts schedules 185 days.

They try to be cheap at the beginning by only scheduling 181 with 1 snow day, and look at the chaos we have this year (and had last year).

Last year they scheduled 182 days. This year would have been the same, but they lost one for the transition day.