FCPS Boundary Review - New Maps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully they reprimand the Region 5 person who did this and/or dismiss them from BRAC. They clearly have an axe to grind and/or cannot follow instructions.

Do people know if this was truly the brainchild of V H? She hates Langley but other people on Region 5 must have gone along with this suggestion, and there are Marshall families in the “Westbriar island” who want to get rezoned to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley rather than to Wolftrap. Moving part of Langley to Herndon would have created more space. Also, there are others in Region 5 who think Great Falls residents have been trying to scuttle the KAA purchase, so the suggestion could have been retaliatory.

Guess it doesn’t really matter now, given what Lady has told her constituents, but there has to be a back story here.

[Anonymous]

Wow, that’s a fairly strong statement and I’m a little surprised she drew attention to it like that, given that the only place that actually reported what happened was FairFACTS. Was this from her newsletter? It would be easy enough to sweep this under the rug, and I’m glad she pushed it out into the open like that so everyone could see what a **** show this process is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully they reprimand the Region 5 person who did this and/or dismiss them from BRAC. They clearly have an axe to grind and/or cannot follow instructions.

Do people know if this was truly the brainchild of V H? She hates Langley but other people on Region 5 must have gone along with this suggestion, and there are Marshall families in the “Westbriar island” who want to get rezoned to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley rather than to Wolftrap. Moving part of Langley to Herndon would have created more space. Also, there are others in Region 5 who think Great Falls residents have been trying to scuttle the KAA purchase, so the suggestion could have been retaliatory.

Guess it doesn’t really matter now, given what Lady has told her constituents, but there has to be a back story here.

If Westbriar families want to get rezoned to Colvin Run, that should be their explicit priority. They don’t need to reassign an entire ES to make room for a handful of students.

If the recommendation is purely retaliatory, then those member should be dismissed, because it does nothing to address the actual changes being recommended. There are a lot of problematic recommendations for Region 5. Marshall is basically cutting off Wolftrap from the rest of the boundary, they’re sending walkers to other schools, Chantilly has some ill advised changes…Maybe the Westfield and Chantilly reps no longer care because KAA might nullify those changes, but it’s a shame to ignore the actual region being represented due to some vendetta.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, that’s a fairly strong statement and I’m a little surprised she drew attention to it like that, given that the only place that actually reported what happened was FairFACTS. Was this from her newsletter? It would be easy enough to sweep this under the rug, and I’m glad she pushed it out into the open like that so everyone could see what a **** show this process is.

I'm sure she got a ton of emails from people complaining about the Region 5 recommendation, regardless of whether FairFACTS Matters was the first group to publicize what happened in the BRAC meeting. And it's not like the report was inaccurate.

Clearly she wanted to be responsive and put a rest to the speculation that moving Forestville to Herndon was the "plan all along" of Reid and the School Board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully they reprimand the Region 5 person who did this and/or dismiss them from BRAC. They clearly have an axe to grind and/or cannot follow instructions.

Do people know if this was truly the brainchild of V H? She hates Langley but other people on Region 5 must have gone along with this suggestion, and there are Marshall families in the “Westbriar island” who want to get rezoned to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley rather than to Wolftrap. Moving part of Langley to Herndon would have created more space. Also, there are others in Region 5 who think Great Falls residents have been trying to scuttle the KAA purchase, so the suggestion could have been retaliatory.

Guess it doesn’t really matter now, given what Lady has told her constituents, but there has to be a back story here.

If Westbriar families want to get rezoned to Colvin Run, that should be their explicit priority. They don’t need to reassign an entire ES to make room for a handful of students.

If the recommendation is purely retaliatory, then those member should be dismissed, because it does nothing to address the actual changes being recommended. There are a lot of problematic recommendations for Region 5. Marshall is basically cutting off Wolftrap from the rest of the boundary, they’re sending walkers to other schools, Chantilly has some ill advised changes…Maybe the Westfield and Chantilly reps no longer care because KAA might nullify those changes, but it’s a shame to ignore the actual region being represented due to some vendetta.

It's moot now but it would be interesting to know how this weirdly bubbled up as a Region 5 recommendation to change Region 1 boundaries. It would provide some general insight as to just how easily this process can be manipulated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hopefully they reprimand the Region 5 person who did this and/or dismiss them from BRAC. They clearly have an axe to grind and/or cannot follow instructions.

Do people know if this was truly the brainchild of V H? She hates Langley but other people on Region 5 must have gone along with this suggestion, and there are Marshall families in the “Westbriar island” who want to get rezoned to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley rather than to Wolftrap. Moving part of Langley to Herndon would have created more space. Also, there are others in Region 5 who think Great Falls residents have been trying to scuttle the KAA purchase, so the suggestion could have been retaliatory.

Guess it doesn’t really matter now, given what Lady has told her constituents, but there has to be a back story here.

Retaliation as public policy. Gotta love the state of our country and county. Some people are the absolute worst.

[Anonymous]

FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

[Anonymous]

There is also confusion because some members of a pyramid they represent may come from an elementary school that is another pyramid and region.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

This reeks of sour grapes.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think anyone would have been surprised if Marshall (Region 5) people who don’t want to get moved to McLean (Region 2), as proposed, or want to get moved to Langley (Region 1), even though it wasn’t proposed, expressed that view. What was weird, though, was Region 5 just proposing to move a Langley feeder in Region 1 to Herndon, another Region 1 school.

Of course the Region 5 proposal could have come from the very opinionated third Woodson rep or others from Region 5 on the BRAC not from the Marshall pyramid. But people would like to know how this bubbled up from Region 5, since it raises broader questions about the BRAC process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

Because the pyramid reps were explicitly told to advocate for and give a voice to their own pyramids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

Because the pyramid reps were explicitly told to advocate for and give a voice to their own pyramids.

But Fairfacts Matters just publicized the one recommendation, not all of the Region 5 recommendations.

If one recommendation was to move Forestville to Herndon and a second was to move the Westbriar island to Colvin Run and then Cooper-Langley, they could be related proposals advocating for Region 5 families now at Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall.

They really ought to publish all 10 of the recommendations that the BRAC reps from each region submitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

Because the pyramid reps were explicitly told to advocate for and give a voice to their own pyramids.

But Fairfacts Matters just publicized the one recommendation, not all of the Region 5 recommendations.

If one recommendation was to move Forestville to Herndon and a second was to move the Westbriar island to Colvin Run and then Cooper-Langley, they could be related proposals advocating for Region 5 families now at Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall.

They really ought to publish all 10 of the recommendations that the BRAC reps from each region submitted.

Really reaching to justify a trash priority here. Just give it up, it was a dumb, indefensible priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

Because the pyramid reps were explicitly told to advocate for and give a voice to their own pyramids.

But Fairfacts Matters just publicized the one recommendation, not all of the Region 5 recommendations.

If one recommendation was to move Forestville to Herndon and a second was to move the Westbriar island to Colvin Run and then Cooper-Langley, they could be related proposals advocating for Region 5 families now at Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall.

They really ought to publish all 10 of the recommendations that the BRAC reps from each region submitted.

Really reaching to justify a trash priority here. Just give it up, it was a dumb, indefensible priority.

Nope, won't give it up. They should publish all 10 of the priorities that the BRAC representatives from each region provided. Then we could see whether it was a stand-alone, gratuitious "trash" priority or one of several related proposals intended to advance the interests of someone in Region 5.

There should be more transparency into the BRAC recommendations, just as there should have been more transparency into the earlier Thru Consulting proposals (some of which changed a lot in May and June with no clear explanation).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCPS claimed they're doing a District-wide rezoning, so why shouldn't "Region 5" be able to suggest changes anywhere in the County?
But, as they've always done, they wire the results based on SB/staff-defined criteria and processes - Langley can't be considered in the South Lakes redistricting because it's not on the list. Emerald Chase has to move from Floris because Lees Corner's not on the list. Per the process, you're only allowed to answer our questions. Per the process, we get to mess around with the maps between every session and no maps are final until the SB approves them...

Because the pyramid reps were explicitly told to advocate for and give a voice to their own pyramids.

But Fairfacts Matters just publicized the one recommendation, not all of the Region 5 recommendations.

If one recommendation was to move Forestville to Herndon and a second was to move the Westbriar island to Colvin Run and then Cooper-Langley, they could be related proposals advocating for Region 5 families now at Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall.

They really ought to publish all 10 of the recommendations that the BRAC reps from each region submitted.

Really reaching to justify a trash priority here. Just give it up, it was a dumb, indefensible priority.

Nope, won't give it up. They should publish all 10 of the priorities that the BRAC representatives from each region provided. Then we could see whether it was a stand-alone, gratuitious "trash" priority or one of several related proposals intended to advance the interests of someone in Region 5.

There should be more transparency into the BRAC recommendations, just as there should have been more transparency into the earlier Thru Consulting proposals (some of which changed a lot in May and June with no clear explanation).

It was presented as one of the regions top 3 priorities. They were allowed to list up to 10 priorities/requests and asked to present their top 3. For the five pyramids being represented, moving a school from a pyramid they didn’t represent to another pyramid they didn’t represent was one of their communities top 3 priorities? Really?