Trump's Madison Square Garden rally

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m watching it live. I’m starting to think the Jan 6 hysteria was just a myth. If it was anything like this rally, Nancy has some explaining to do. This is more peaceful than when the Pope came to town.

I was working for Congress on that day and it was horrible. Not a myth at all. You are an ignorant.

Aren’t you smart enough not to engage with an obvious troll?

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Literally his is blaming everything people perceive to be wrong in the US (crime and inflation and the hurricane response and pets in Springfield in Ohio) on "illegals." He is scapegoating an ethnic minority by telling people that "they" are the problem.

"They are a threat to democracy." Where "they" is just immigrants. He said that regarding immigrants in Springfield who are LEGAL immigrants who were moved to Springfield for jobs and because they liked it there. That "they" are a threat to democracy.

This is exactly what Hitler did with Jews (and Catholics and gay people and disabled people). He fomented a revolution by convincing Germans to blame all their problems on an ethnic minority and claiming that "they" were trying to replace "real" Germans.

It is fascism.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Is that fascism?

Do you understand the rhetoric being used? It is almost verbatim Hitler and Goebbels.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He looks and sounds tired.

So what has he said that is “nazi?”

Anyone?

I am listening live…I don’t hear anything nazi related. But surely you all have heard nazi talk- so quote it.

then you don't know history or studied the rhetoric of Nazi Germany.

That is a you problem.

A you problem is seeing nazis behind every bush and shadow because the majority of Americans don’t want to be overwhelmed with illegal immigration.

There are no swastika Trump signs as pp claimed- that’s a lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Literally his is blaming everything people perceive to be wrong in the US (crime and inflation and the hurricane response and pets in Springfield in Ohio) on "illegals." He is scapegoating an ethnic minority by telling people that "they" are the problem.

"They are a threat to democracy." Where "they" is just immigrants. He said that regarding immigrants in Springfield who are LEGAL immigrants who were moved to Springfield for jobs and because they liked it there. That "they" are a threat to democracy.

This is exactly what Hitler did with Jews (and Catholics and gay people and disabled people). He fomented a revolution by convincing Germans to blame all their problems on an ethnic minority and claiming that "they" were trying to replace "real" Germans.

It is fascism.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Is that fascism?

No, because no one is proposing having the military round up Republicans, put them in camps, and deport them.

Because republicans are legal US citizens.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Sounds pretty fascist.

Elon... not a legal US citizen.
Melania...not a legal US citizen.

I could go on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Literally his is blaming everything people perceive to be wrong in the US (crime and inflation and the hurricane response and pets in Springfield in Ohio) on "illegals." He is scapegoating an ethnic minority by telling people that "they" are the problem.

"They are a threat to democracy." Where "they" is just immigrants. He said that regarding immigrants in Springfield who are LEGAL immigrants who were moved to Springfield for jobs and because they liked it there. That "they" are a threat to democracy.

This is exactly what Hitler did with Jews (and Catholics and gay people and disabled people). He fomented a revolution by convincing Germans to blame all their problems on an ethnic minority and claiming that "they" were trying to replace "real" Germans.

It is fascism.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Is that fascism?

No, because no one is proposing having the military round up Republicans, put them in camps, and deport them.

Because republicans are legal US citizens.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Sounds pretty fascist.

I mean, no...that doesn't sound fascist. But BTW, Trump blames absolutely everything on Democrats. Even when things are good, he spins it as bad and blames the Democrats. He calls them the enemy within. So you're admitting that in your mind and how you define fascism, he's fascist...right?

Are democrats fascist for saying republicans are a threat to democracy?

the democrats are literally using the words uttered by republicans.

[Anonymous]

Trump's Madison Square Garden speakers hurling vile racist tirades...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He looks and sounds tired.

So what has he said that is “nazi?”

Anyone?

I am listening live…I don’t hear anything nazi related. But surely you all have heard nazi talk- so quote it.

then you don't know history or studied the rhetoric of Nazi Germany.

That is a you problem.

A you problem is seeing nazis behind every bush and shadow because the majority of Americans don’t want to be overwhelmed with illegal immigration.

There are no swastika Trump signs as pp claimed- that’s a lie.

I mean this spin isn't going to work. This rally is a horror show. And if PP's claim is a lie, I imagine you find it endearing given your candidate's propensity for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Literally his is blaming everything people perceive to be wrong in the US (crime and inflation and the hurricane response and pets in Springfield in Ohio) on "illegals." He is scapegoating an ethnic minority by telling people that "they" are the problem.

"They are a threat to democracy." Where "they" is just immigrants. He said that regarding immigrants in Springfield who are LEGAL immigrants who were moved to Springfield for jobs and because they liked it there. That "they" are a threat to democracy.

This is exactly what Hitler did with Jews (and Catholics and gay people and disabled people). He fomented a revolution by convincing Germans to blame all their problems on an ethnic minority and claiming that "they" were trying to replace "real" Germans.

It is fascism.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Is that fascism?

No, because no one is proposing having the military round up Republicans, put them in camps, and deport them.

Because republicans are legal US citizens.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Sounds pretty fascist.

Elon... not a legal US citizen.
Melania...not a legal US citizen.

I could go on.

Then you should be their biggest defender. Illegal immigrants are #1 with democrats.
Elon and Melania should be embraced and protected by democrats and cherished as all illegal immigrants are. ❤️

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Literally his is blaming everything people perceive to be wrong in the US (crime and inflation and the hurricane response and pets in Springfield in Ohio) on "illegals." He is scapegoating an ethnic minority by telling people that "they" are the problem.

"They are a threat to democracy." Where "they" is just immigrants. He said that regarding immigrants in Springfield who are LEGAL immigrants who were moved to Springfield for jobs and because they liked it there. That "they" are a threat to democracy.

This is exactly what Hitler did with Jews (and Catholics and gay people and disabled people). He fomented a revolution by convincing Germans to blame all their problems on an ethnic minority and claiming that "they" were trying to replace "real" Germans.

It is fascism.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Is that fascism?

No, because no one is proposing having the military round up Republicans, put them in camps, and deport them.

Because republicans are legal US citizens.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Sounds pretty fascist.

I mean, no...that doesn't sound fascist. But BTW, Trump blames absolutely everything on Democrats. Even when things are good, he spins it as bad and blames the Democrats. He calls them the enemy within. So you're admitting that in your mind and how you define fascism, he's fascist...right?

Are democrats fascist for saying republicans are a threat to democracy?

the democrats are literally using the words uttered by republicans.

Now democrats are denying they have been calling Trump a fascist since 2016.

lmao.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what is tucker on?

First of all, it sounds like he’s conceding that Harris is going to win? Second of all, he sounds manic as hell. There’s a weird desperation, like he’s dancing fast and hard for someone pulling his strings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Literally his is blaming everything people perceive to be wrong in the US (crime and inflation and the hurricane response and pets in Springfield in Ohio) on "illegals." He is scapegoating an ethnic minority by telling people that "they" are the problem.

"They are a threat to democracy." Where "they" is just immigrants. He said that regarding immigrants in Springfield who are LEGAL immigrants who were moved to Springfield for jobs and because they liked it there. That "they" are a threat to democracy.

This is exactly what Hitler did with Jews (and Catholics and gay people and disabled people). He fomented a revolution by convincing Germans to blame all their problems on an ethnic minority and claiming that "they" were trying to replace "real" Germans.

It is fascism.

Your side blames republicans for everything and says republicans are a threat to democracy.

Is that fascism?

No. But if you think it is, please explain why this qualifies as fascism.

this is fascist and certainly unAmerican.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He looks and sounds tired.

So what has he said that is “nazi?”

Anyone?

I am listening live…I don’t hear anything nazi related. But surely you all have heard nazi talk- so quote it.

then you don't know history or studied the rhetoric of Nazi Germany.

That is a you problem.

A you problem is seeing nazis behind every bush and shadow because the majority of Americans don’t want to be overwhelmed with illegal immigration.

There are no swastika Trump signs as pp claimed- that’s a lie.

Vermin spoiling the blood of America… siccing the military on the enemy within… admiring Hitler…