Harris "closing argument" speech next Tuesday on the mall

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Anonymous wrote:Biden regrets the name of the Inflation Reduction Act as it does not reduce inflation!

https://apnews.com/article/biden-inflation-reduction-climate-anniversary-9950f7e814ac71e89eee3f452ab17f71


If you actually read the article the point is that inflation is down and inflation-fighting effects of the legislation are likely to pay off in the long run. He only “regrets” the name in the sense that no one realizes it is the biggest effort to fight climate change the country has seen.

Meanwhile all the R’s who predicted it would spike inflation have been flatly wrong



My PhD in economics says you are wrong.

The bill did nothing to reduce inflation. NOTHING. The fed gets all the credit here. The raising of the interest rates is the answer o why inflation is reduced. The higher rates, slow down the economy.
Period!

The president gets Zero credit and some does the bill.



Yes, I agree. People do not understand that national governments have very little power over global economic pressures, and sometimes good reasons not to overload on short-term incentives which will add to the national debt. Mostly governments inherit good and bad things from the previous administration, and try to figure it out. The pandemic recovery cost every nation on earth an enormous amount of money. They are all still digging out, and only the US has done exceptionally well. We should be relieved for American dynamism and the Fed's tightrope walking, instead of blaming Biden or Trump.

Immigration is another perennial problem of the developed world that never has good solutions from the left or the right. The right appeals to xenophobic fears while ignoring that we need immigrant labor, and the left ignores the strain border communities are put under and does precious little to control the flow. Both ignore the fact that to have controlled immigration that doesn't take a lifetime to get a green card, thus pushing people into illegality because they can't wait that long, they need to put money where their mouth is and fund USCIS and other agencies so that people can be processed within humane time periods (either approved for immigration or escorted out).

I've been here for 20 years, on a series of work visas, and I will wait many more years for my green card. I've been able to stay legal because I have money and resources. The majority of illegal immigrants are ones who fall out of status - despite desperately wanting a legal path to immigration. Very few people set out to be illegal, contrary to what Fox tells us! But their circumstances are not as fortunate as mine.




It should have happened years ago, but there is probably now a critical mass of countries that would be happy to see the Refugee Convention renegotiated. While there of course need to protections for bona fide refugees, it’s clear to most that the protections provided by the convention are being manipulated en masse all over the world by economic migrants (and that many governments are tolerating asylees for the low wage labor they provide) and that many people are dying in the process. Of course this should happen in conjunction with the opening up of channels for the economic migrants that every developed country needs, whether their governments admit it or not.
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Anonymous wrote:She said she makes mistakes. I don't want a President who makes mistakes.


Then definitely dont vote for Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:Her speech was great and she was presidential. Her leadership and empathy is a wonderful tonic to the hate and vitriol Trump was serving at his rally this weekend.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:That was really an “empty suit” speech.
Looked good, spoke well but it was all fluff and no substance. Wish she would have done better.


How much have you had to drink / smoke tonight?


Look I have my opinion, you have yours. I heard a lot of grand ideas, but very little on how to get there. I wish she gave more, but didn’t.
If ya don’t agree, ya don’t agree, but I saw what I saw.


Go to her website. There are 82 pages of how to get there. Hillary gave wonky speeches and lost, so the Dems have learned that lesson.


And…… you missed my point. It’s a “closing speech”!
You come hard and strong with all your details and a clear vision, NOT fluff and platitudes and catchy one liners. This was an opening speech, not a closing speech.
I said I wish she did better, but only have her speech writers to blame.


She....gave a clear vision. If you aren't getting that, then what do you want spoon-fed to you?


You’re just not getting it! Omg.
You left out my request for DETAILS (with the vision.) A vision without details just paints a nice picture that’s only a wish, a dream. THAT is an opening speech, NOT a closer!

She had the stage set and flubbed it, more so her advisers did. Wish I had moretonight, sorry.
Have a good evening!


I agree with this.

Her grand ideas only show how unprepared she is to be POTUS. Absolutely nothing grounded in reality. Just abstract ideas and high level talking points that she’s said a million times before.

Biden would have been the better pick. Shocked to say it.


You prefer the candidate who did 39 minutes of awkward dancing? Ah yes you are clearly an excellent judge of qualifications and preparedness.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden regrets the name of the Inflation Reduction Act as it does not reduce inflation!

https://apnews.com/article/biden-inflation-reduction-climate-anniversary-9950f7e814ac71e89eee3f452ab17f71


If you actually read the article the point is that inflation is down and inflation-fighting effects of the legislation are likely to pay off in the long run. He only “regrets” the name in the sense that no one realizes it is the biggest effort to fight climate change the country has seen.

Meanwhile all the R’s who predicted it would spike inflation have been flatly wrong



My PhD in economics says you are wrong.

The bill did nothing to reduce inflation. NOTHING. The fed gets all the credit here. The raising of the interest rates is the answer o why inflation is reduced. The higher rates, slow down the economy.
Period!

The president gets Zero credit and some does the bill.



Yes, I agree. People do not understand that national governments have very little power over global economic pressures, and sometimes good reasons not to overload on short-term incentives which will add to the national debt. Mostly governments inherit good and bad things from the previous administration, and try to figure it out. The pandemic recovery cost every nation on earth an enormous amount of money. They are all still digging out, and only the US has done exceptionally well. We should be relieved for American dynamism and the Fed's tightrope walking, instead of blaming Biden or Trump.

Immigration is another perennial problem of the developed world that never has good solutions from the left or the right. The right appeals to xenophobic fears while ignoring that we need immigrant labor, and the left ignores the strain border communities are put under and does precious little to control the flow. Both ignore the fact that to have controlled immigration that doesn't take a lifetime to get a green card, thus pushing people into illegality because they can't wait that long, they need to put money where their mouth is and fund USCIS and other agencies so that people can be processed within humane time periods (either approved for immigration or escorted out).

I've been here for 20 years, on a series of work visas, and I will wait many more years for my green card. I've been able to stay legal because I have money and resources. The majority of illegal immigrants are ones who fall out of status - despite desperately wanting a legal path to immigration. Very few people set out to be illegal, contrary to what Fox tells us! But their circumstances are not as fortunate as mine.




The majority of illegal immigrants either come without any visa at all or overstay a visa class that doesn't lead to a green card (mainly B1/B2 but also others). The ones least likely to overstay are the ones with work visas like yourself because they dont want to jeopardize their pending immigration case.
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Anonymous wrote:She said she makes mistakes. I don't want a President who makes mistakes.


Then definitely dont vote for Trump.


She makes mistakes, but learns from them, gets help fixing them and so on. Unlike Trump who finds someone else to blame, like somehow 40 out of his own 44 hand-picked Cabinet officials and his own hand picked National Security Council were all a bunch of incompetent losers - when in fact it was Trump's own incompetence and behavior that is the reason they all refuse to endorse him now. Trump who is so ignorant and arrogant that he actually believes he knows "more than all the Generals" and is Very Smart and a Stable Genius because he had an uncle who taught at MIT (even though that's not at all how intelligence works).

Definitely don't vote for Trump if you have a problem with mistakes.
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Anonymous wrote:Her speech was great and she was presidential. Her leadership and empathy is a wonderful tonic to the hate and vitriol Trump was serving at his rally this weekend.


+1


+2 an actual love fest
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The news articles on today’s rally seem to indicate that it was Kamala’s final campaign event.

Is that so? Why should she have no further events when there are a full six days left until Election Day?
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It’s not her final event. For example, tomorrow evening she will be in Madison WI.
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Anonymous wrote:Just empty speech. No details.


What details do you need? She will present bills and the house and senate will pass them, and then she will sign them.


Nope. Not with a republican senate.

She needs to work across the isle, she is too divisive to do so. I expect 2 years of nothing from her.



SHE is too divisive? LOL, have you heard any of the GOP rhetoric in the last oh, 8 years?


16 years. McConnell committed to making sure the Senate did nothing before Obama was even inaugurated.


Further back than that. Gingrich was doing the hate the libs thing way back in the 90s.

https://history.princeton.edu/about/publications/burning-down-house-newt-gingrich-fall-speaker-and-rise-new-republican-party

"When Donald Trump was elected president in 2016, President Obama observed that Trump “is not an outlier; he is a culmination, a logical conclusion of the rhetoric and tactics of the Republican Party.” In Burning Down the House, historian Julian Zelizer pinpoints the moment when our country was set on a path toward an era of bitterly partisan and ruthless politics, an era that was ignited by Newt Gingrich and his allies. In 1989, Gingrich brought down Democratic Speaker of the House Jim Wright and catapulted himself into the national spotlight. Perhaps more than any other politician, Gingrich introduced the rhetoric and tactics that have shaped Congress and the Republican Party for the last three decades. Elected to Congress in 1978, Gingrich quickly became one of the most powerful figures in America not through innovative ideas or charisma, but through a calculated campaign of attacks against political opponents, casting himself as a savior in a fight of good versus evil. Taking office in the post-Watergate era, he weaponized the good government reforms newly introduced to fight corruption, wielding the rules in ways that shocked the legislators who had created them. His crusade against Democrats culminated in the plot to destroy the political career of Speaker Wright."
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Harris was superb! The crowd was 75,000!! My sister was there with her family and atmosphere was electric. She went with her husband and two teen sons.

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Anonymous wrote:Harris was superb! The crowd was 75,000!! My sister was there with her family and atmosphere was electric. She went with her husband and two teen sons.



I've been feeling so stressed about the drama of Trump's campaign and hate his team is beaming out at everyone. I loved when she said something like:

"It doesn't have to be this way. Instead of pointing fingers, we can lock arms."

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That was really an “empty suit” speech.
Looked good, spoke well but it was all fluff and no substance. Wish she would have done better.


How much have you had to drink / smoke tonight?


Look I have my opinion, you have yours. I heard a lot of grand ideas, but very little on how to get there. I wish she gave more, but didn’t.
If ya don’t agree, ya don’t agree, but I saw what I saw.


Go to her website. There are 82 pages of how to get there. Hillary gave wonky speeches and lost, so the Dems have learned that lesson.


And…… you missed my point. It’s a “closing speech”!
You come hard and strong with all your details and a clear vision, NOT fluff and platitudes and catchy one liners. This was an opening speech, not a closing speech.
I said I wish she did better, but only have her speech writers to blame.


She....gave a clear vision. If you aren't getting that, then what do you want spoon-fed to you?


You’re just not getting it! Omg.
You left out my request for DETAILS (with the vision.) A vision without details just paints a nice picture that’s only a wish, a dream. THAT is an opening speech, NOT a closer!

She had the stage set and flubbed it, more so her advisers did. Wish I had moretonight, sorry.
Have a good evening!


I agree with this.

Her grand ideas only show how unprepared she is to be POTUS. Absolutely nothing grounded in reality. Just abstract ideas and high level talking points that she’s said a million times before.

Biden would have been the better pick. Shocked to say it.


It's as though you guys have been asleep for all of the POTUS campaigns since Kennedy appeared on TV. The vast majority of American voters would get bored with details. If American voters cared about details and accuracy, Trump would have exactly zero supporters. He has nothing but lies, but you are worried about Harris being unprepared? He already SHOWED us he is unfit and unprepared, but you want round 2?

I just can't with you people anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:Harris was superb! The crowd was 75,000!! My sister was there with her family and atmosphere was electric. She went with her husband and two teen sons.



I've been feeling so stressed about the drama of Trump's campaign and hate his team is beaming out at everyone. I loved when she said something like:

"It doesn't have to be this way. Instead of pointing fingers, we can lock arms."



Yeah such a good line in a great speech!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The news articles on today’s rally seem to indicate that it was Kamala’s final campaign event.

Is that so? Why should she have no further events when there are a full six days left until Election Day?


She is in Madison tomorrow and I suspect other swing states through the weekend and Monday and probably to California to vote on Tuesday before coming back for Election Night at Howard.
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