High schoolers can’t write

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a Mathnasium for writing. You can get your kid extra help in math--but unless you shell out big bucks for a tutor, it's harder for writing.

Try the institute for excellence in writing...it's affordable amd very systematic

Someone keeps suggesting this and it looks like it is a very Christian curriculum. No thank you.

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

I think you should be a parent and part of being a parent is education. It is your job to help educate your kids and ensure they get what they mean. If you are too busy to spend even 15 minutes a day you have no business having kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a Mathnasium for writing. You can get your kid extra help in math--but unless you shell out big bucks for a tutor, it's harder for writing.

Try the institute for excellence in writing...it's affordable amd very systematic

Someone keeps suggesting this and it looks like it is a very Christian curriculum. No thank you.

Please fact check yourself. This is their website. https://iew.com/

Please find me a quote that says their curriculum is “very Christian.” They have some Christian themed units if you want to purchase those but the rest/mainstream is secular. News flash… You can be a Christian and write good curriculum. Just like you can be Muslim or Jewish or Atheist and write good curriculum. I did this program in HS and can’t remember anything “Christian” about it. Made me a much better writer. What makes it ok for you to shit on something just because of a founder’s religious belief?? Sounds like hate to me. What if someone said… nope, that writer is a Muslin… Boy you would be canceled so fast..

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

I think you should be a parent and part of being a parent is education. It is your job to help educate your kids and ensure they get what they mean. If you are too busy to spend even 15 minutes a day you have no business having kids.

DP but if you think you can teach your kids all their subjects in even 15 minutes a day you have no business in this conversation.

As a PP said, if parents are expected to provide the education, WTF is the point of sending the kids to school all day?

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a Mathnasium for writing. You can get your kid extra help in math--but unless you shell out big bucks for a tutor, it's harder for writing.

Try the institute for excellence in writing...it's affordable amd very systematic

Someone keeps suggesting this and it looks like it is a very Christian curriculum. No thank you.

Please fact check yourself. This is their website. https://iew.com/

Please find me a quote that says their curriculum is “very Christian.” They have some Christian themed units if you want to purchase those but the rest/mainstream is secular. News flash… You can be a Christian and write good curriculum. Just like you can be Muslim or Jewish or Atheist and write good curriculum. I did this program in HS and can’t remember anything “Christian” about it. Made me a much better writer. What makes it ok for you to shit on something just because of a founder’s religious belief?? Sounds like hate to me. What if someone said… nope, that writer is a Muslin… Boy you would be canceled so fast..

It may be a good curriculum if you share the beliefs but you should be able to understand why a Jewish or Muslim family would not want that as their curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

I think you should be a parent and part of being a parent is education. It is your job to help educate your kids and ensure they get what they mean. If you are too busy to spend even 15 minutes a day you have no business having kids.

DP but if you think you can teach your kids all their subjects in even 15 minutes a day you have no business in this conversation.

As a PP said, if parents are expected to provide the education, WTF is the point of sending the kids to school all day?

In preschool and Es we heavily supplemented. If your kids are not strong in a subject and you will not help, stop complaining. We still help out older kids and proof read their papers.

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Anonymous wrote:When would they have time to provide feedback? 120+ students and one planning period per day. They have to prioritize planning so grading is done on their own time. They are required to use the rubric so that's what they use.

Well, they have to read the essay. They could add a sentence of feedback. It's really not asking that much. And to say you get 2.5/3 on this part of the rubric is not helpful - where did the student miss the mark? And when a student asks for feedback and is told no, the teacher is not performing his or her job at a basic level.

Seriously. When I was in public school in the 90s, I always got feedback on my writing. My teachers had the same number of kids in their classes as MCPS teachers do.

We need to stop making excuses or acting like teachers are dealing with situations that have never ever happened before.

Exactly! Stop making excuses for these teachers. If the teacher is already reading the child's assignment, why not provide constructive feedback.

If it's not for the magnet programs and IB programs, I wouldn't send my worst enemy to the regular program at MCPS. TOTAL JOKE! Kids are just being handed out As

Hate to break it to you, but my kid who did one of the non test in IB programs just failed his college freshman English class. He didn't learn how to write even in an IB program.

Troll.
College just started, how can he just failed his freshman English class?
You can't even troll properly, and hopefully, he's not as dumb as you.

He failed last semester, dumb ass.

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Anonymous wrote:Another issue is that kids don't read. That's a big reason they can't write. Kids who read a lot have a leg up on the kids who don't when it comes to writing.

PSA to parents of little kids - hold off on tech for as long as you possibly can and make them engage with print materials all the time. Once the door is open to tablets and phones etc, it is really hard for students to sit for/engage with/ learn! the complex task of reading. And then... High schoolers can't write.

Tech always isn’t bad. Lots of great learning apps.

Let me guess- you use a lot of tech?

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

I think you should be a parent and part of being a parent is education. It is your job to help educate your kids and ensure they get what they mean. If you are too busy to spend even 15 minutes a day you have no business having kids.

DP but if you think you can teach your kids all their subjects in even 15 minutes a day you have no business in this conversation.

As a PP said, if parents are expected to provide the education, WTF is the point of sending the kids to school all day?

In preschool and Es we heavily supplemented. If your kids are not strong in a subject and you will not help, stop complaining. We still help out older kids and proof read their papers.

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question- but if your child is receiving mostly As and the teacher says they're doing great, how do you know what they aren't strong at? We supplemented our older DC with phonics before MCPS introduced RGR because the 3-cueing method wasn't working for him. But that was an obvious hole. As he gets older it is less clear to me what he needs- everyone says the curriculum is bad. I don't want to get to high school and find they can't write, but if they are already meeting MCPS grade-level benchmarks what benchmarks should I be using instead to identify the deficiencies?

Again, I'm really sorry if this is a dumb question. I did not grow up in an American educational system, where I went to school teachers were highly respected and did the teaching. My parents were not expected to do all this extra teaching at home....

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

I think you should be a parent and part of being a parent is education. It is your job to help educate your kids and ensure they get what they mean. If you are too busy to spend even 15 minutes a day you have no business having kids.

See, this is where I get confused! I already spend at least 15 minutes helping them with their homework. Are you talking about an extra 15 minutes beyond that? That's really all that is needed? How do you condense all the subjects into 15 minutes?

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

DP.
I am a a high school teacher. I tutor my own children every night, including in the subjects I don’t teach.

I know they aren’t getting everything they need in school. I simply keep an eye on what they are doing and I reinforce it. We also read together, which is probably the most useful thing we do.

It isn’t unreasonable. I know the teachers can’t cover it all. I also know they are dealing with overcrowded classrooms, little planning time, extra administrative duties, student behavioral issues, etc. They aren’t focusing exclusively on my child. I can do that at home.

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Anonymous wrote:When would they have time to provide feedback? 120+ students and one planning period per day. They have to prioritize planning so grading is done on their own time. They are required to use the rubric so that's what they use.

Well, they have to read the essay. They could add a sentence of feedback. It's really not asking that much. And to say you get 2.5/3 on this part of the rubric is not helpful - where did the student miss the mark? And when a student asks for feedback and is told no, the teacher is not performing his or her job at a basic level.

Seriously. When I was in public school in the 90s, I always got feedback on my writing. My teachers had the same number of kids in their classes as MCPS teachers do.

We need to stop making excuses or acting like teachers are dealing with situations that have never ever happened before.

Exactly! Stop making excuses for these teachers. If the teacher is already reading the child's assignment, why not provide constructive feedback.

If it's not for the magnet programs and IB programs, I wouldn't send my worst enemy to the regular program at MCPS. TOTAL JOKE! Kids are just being handed out As

Hate to break it to you, but my kid who did one of the non test in IB programs just failed his college freshman English class. He didn't learn how to write even in an IB program.

Troll.
College just started, how can he just failed his freshman English class?
You can't even troll properly, and hopefully, he's not as dumb as you.

He failed last semester, dumb ass.

Its pathethic how you treat people. Grow up. Let the grownups talk since you have to act like a child.

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

DP.
I am a a high school teacher. I tutor my own children every night, including in the subjects I don’t teach.

I know they aren’t getting everything they need in school. I simply keep an eye on what they are doing and I reinforce it. We also read together, which is probably the most useful thing we do.

It isn’t unreasonable. I know the teachers can’t cover it all. I also know they are dealing with overcrowded classrooms, little planning time, extra administrative duties, student behavioral issues, etc. They aren’t focusing exclusively on my child. I can do that at home.

Not only do you help your kids, but you are probably grading, answering emails, including parent emails, and preparing for the next day. A prosecutor should realize many of these people who are criminals didn't get what they needed as kids. As parents, its ultimately our responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:You should have been working with them at home OP. Everyone knows that.

Parents shouldn’t be the primary instructor for foundational skills like writing.

Yes they should. If you refuse to stop complaining. It’s part of parenting.

Are you a trained educator? What are you specifically doing with your kids at home to teach them to write properly?

You don’t need to be an educator to teach your kid the basics.

The problem is that this refrain comes up for everything- phonics, spelling, writing, history, math, etc. "You should have been working with your child at home." WTF are they doing all day at school if we're expected to do this much supplementing at night in addition to their assigned homework? If they're not even getting "the basics" at school than what is the point.

Exactly! I'm a prosecutor. I'm protecting you all from criminals committing crimes in your neighborhoods. Then I should also teach all school subjects when I get home? Do the teachers prosecute crimes when they get off of work? GTFOH.

I think you should be a parent and part of being a parent is education. It is your job to help educate your kids and ensure they get what they mean. If you are too busy to spend even 15 minutes a day you have no business having kids.

See, this is where I get confused! I already spend at least 15 minutes helping them with their homework. Are you talking about an extra 15 minutes beyond that? That's really all that is needed? How do you condense all the subjects into 15 minutes?

The homework is a joke in elementary in less you got a good teacher. We did a variety of workbooks to supplement. Either one subject a day or mix it up. Even a few pages is better than nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish there was a Mathnasium for writing. You can get your kid extra help in math--but unless you shell out big bucks for a tutor, it's harder for writing.

Try the institute for excellence in writing...it's affordable amd very systematic

Someone keeps suggesting this and it looks like it is a very Christian curriculum. No thank you.

Boo Hoo .. you become a great writer but then you may end up in heaven when you die.