High schoolers can’t write

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid in now in AP Lang and it's clear that this where she will get her best writing instruction. The teacher has a lot of work to do but she seems committed to ensuring that the kids will be able to write by the time the class is over. It's too bad that it took until junior year though.


People who want to learn sign up for harder classes like this. It's really not as complicated as many want to make it out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My friends who are high school English teachers and college writing professors have been talking for several years now about the complete decline of basic writing ability they are seeing in students. They say it is abysmal.


Are they providing this feedback to students?

Why are OPs kids getting As?


No one is held back in mcps. Therefore, the D students are the Fs.
The C students are the D students and so on.

We made such a big mistake going with public school.

Is that the reason the graduation rate is 100%? Oops! My bad. It's not.
Your claim above is fake, just like you're fake
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Their focus is elsewhere. Preparing everyone to be college ready. Wrap around community schools services.

Excellence in math, reading, and writing gets lost in the shuffle I fear.



You can't have a focus on getting kids college ready if you aren't prioritizing excellence in math, reading and writing though.

Meh. Colleges - even top-tier, competitive ones - have had freshman writing classes for decades. They don't expect good writing coming in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Their focus is elsewhere. Preparing everyone to be college ready. Wrap around community schools services.

Excellence in math, reading, and writing gets lost in the shuffle I fear.



You can't have a focus on getting kids college ready if you aren't prioritizing excellence in math, reading and writing though.

Meh. Colleges - even top-tier, competitive ones - have had freshman writing classes for decades. They don't expect good writing coming in.


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Harvard teaches remedial Math
Anonymous
Just let them sit around and watch TV on their phones. They get 50%fir just writing their name. Throw 25% at them for just showing up and not cussing you out and that's a solid c for the class. This should keep parents happy and admin off the teachers back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My friends who are high school English teachers and college writing professors have been talking for several years now about the complete decline of basic writing ability they are seeing in students. They say it is abysmal.


Are they providing this feedback to students?

Why are OPs kids getting As?


No one is held back in mcps. Therefore, the D students are the Fs.
The C students are the D students and so on.

We made such a big mistake going with public school.

Is that the reason the graduation rate is 100%? Oops! My bad. It's not.
Your claim above is fake, just like you're fake


You're stupid. The graduation rate is lower than 100% because kids drop out.
Imagine thinking the grad rate is based on the pass rate 🤣
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Their focus is elsewhere. Preparing everyone to be college ready. Wrap around community schools services.

Excellence in math, reading, and writing gets lost in the shuffle I fear.



You can't have a focus on getting kids college ready if you aren't prioritizing excellence in math, reading and writing though.

Meh. Colleges - even top-tier, competitive ones - have had freshman writing classes for decades. They don't expect good writing coming in.


+1

Harvard teaches remedial Math


Imagine believing math and writing are "meh" not so important.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My friends who are high school English teachers and college writing professors have been talking for several years now about the complete decline of basic writing ability they are seeing in students. They say it is abysmal.


Are they providing this feedback to students?

Why are OPs kids getting As?


No one is held back in mcps. Therefore, the D students are the Fs.
The C students are the D students and so on.

We made such a big mistake going with public school.

Is that the reason the graduation rate is 100%? Oops! My bad. It's not.
Your claim above is fake, just like you're fake


You're stupid. The graduation rate is lower than 100% because kids drop out.
Imagine thinking the grad rate is based on the pass rate 🤣

Have you looked in the mirror lately? You would have seen stupidity.
Idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:AP Lang and AP Lit are the English classes where students are held to higher standards of writing. Unfortunately they don't come until 11th and 12 th grades.


Lol

That’s waaaaaaaaay too late.

Why not start in elementary school…like the Catholics do?


Not only Catholics. Every decent private school teaches writing.


Homeschoolers do too. 👊
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid in now in AP Lang and it's clear that this where she will get her best writing instruction. The teacher has a lot of work to do but she seems committed to ensuring that the kids will be able to write by the time the class is over. It's too bad that it took until junior year though.


People who want to learn sign up for harder classes like this. It's really not as complicated as many want to make it out.


It’s a little more complicated than you would think.

It’s getting harder to find teachers willing to take on the extra workload. AP and IB courses involve a ton of very intentional planning and detailed grading. Many of us are burned out and are requesting not to teach these classes anymore.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid in now in AP Lang and it's clear that this where she will get her best writing instruction. The teacher has a lot of work to do but she seems committed to ensuring that the kids will be able to write by the time the class is over. It's too bad that it took until junior year though.


People who want to learn sign up for harder classes like this. It's really not as complicated as many want to make it out.


It’s a little more complicated than you would think.

It’s getting harder to find teachers willing to take on the extra workload. AP and IB courses involve a ton of very intentional planning and detailed grading. Many of us are burned out and are requesting not to teach these classes anymore.


Especially if students are being placed into them who are not prepared , have no plan to take the exam and then struggle due to lack of effort.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid in now in AP Lang and it's clear that this where she will get her best writing instruction. The teacher has a lot of work to do but she seems committed to ensuring that the kids will be able to write by the time the class is over. It's too bad that it took until junior year though.


People who want to learn sign up for harder classes like this. It's really not as complicated as many want to make it out.


It’s a little more complicated than you would think.

It’s getting harder to find teachers willing to take on the extra workload. AP and IB courses involve a ton of very intentional planning and detailed grading. Many of us are burned out and are requesting not to teach these classes anymore.


Especially if students are being placed into them who are not prepared , have no plan to take the exam and then struggle due to lack of effort.


The real issue is that at the elementary level schools are failing these kids as they aren't teaching grammar, spelling, and more writing skills. Same with math, they don't teach the basics and instead focus on strategies. Parents need to supplement at home and pay attention. We have been lucky we have had a few good teachers who work on writing skills but the bulk of it came from us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid in now in AP Lang and it's clear that this where she will get her best writing instruction. The teacher has a lot of work to do but she seems committed to ensuring that the kids will be able to write by the time the class is over. It's too bad that it took until junior year though.


People who want to learn sign up for harder classes like this. It's really not as complicated as many want to make it out.


It’s a little more complicated than you would think.

It’s getting harder to find teachers willing to take on the extra workload. AP and IB courses involve a ton of very intentional planning and detailed grading. Many of us are burned out and are requesting not to teach these classes anymore.


Especially if students are being placed into them who are not prepared , have no plan to take the exam and then struggle due to lack of effort.


The real issue is that at the elementary level schools are failing these kids as they aren't teaching grammar, spelling, and more writing skills. Same with math, they don't teach the basics and instead focus on strategies. Parents need to supplement at home and pay attention. We have been lucky we have had a few good teachers who work on writing skills but the bulk of it came from us.


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