Anyone touring top schools and finding then all to be dumpy and unimpressive?

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Anonymous wrote:What school charges $25K for room and board? Not any of the ivies, it looks like.

Make sure to add the residential college fee and the $1500 student experience fee and you arrive at $25k. It’s sickening and you can’t opt out

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/costs-undergraduate.php

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What school charges $25K for room and board? Not any of the ivies, it looks like.

Make sure to add the residential college fee and the $1500 student experience fee and you arrive at $25k. It’s sickening and you can’t opt out

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/financialaid/costs-undergraduate.php

I did not add other fees in my T15 search, as the initial post said Room and Board, which alone even at Vandy is not 25k. However, I see that R&B is quite a bit more than the T15s, and many of them are in higher COL areas. I wonder why Vanderbilt has gotten out of line with they think are their peers?

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Anonymous wrote:Now we’ve gone from “dumpy and unimpressive” to “mold in hallways” to “rats and not fit for a dog”. Can you let me know where these rat-infested dorms not fit for a dog are, please? Yes I know Georgetown had mold problems. Be specific.

Not rocket science. Google is free.
https://www.themichaelrubino.com/list-of-mold-in-college-dorms/

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Anonymous wrote:No AC in most freshman forms in most colleges for $70K.

Kid at an ivy has AC in freshman dorms and so did most of the other elite schools we toured

Which one? Many do not. Yale has 1 residential college with AC that they intentionally "shut off" out of fairness according to a tour guide. Many other top colleges like Amherst do not have AC for freshman. Even some west coast colleges don't have ac.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No AC in most freshman forms in most colleges for $70K.

Kid at an ivy has AC in freshman dorms and so did most of the other elite schools we toured

Which one? Many do not. Yale has 1 residential college with AC that they intentionally "shut off" out of fairness according to a tour guide. Many other top colleges like Amherst do not have AC for freshman. Even some west coast colleges don't have ac.

Wow. Is is really true that Yale turned off AC in the 2 new residential colleges for “equity” reasons?

Princeton actually has quite a few dorms with AC - dorms in Whitman college, butler college, some of Forbes College and the two newest residential colleges: New College West, Yeh college. Hobson College will also have AC (estimated to be complete in 2026). So by then, over half of the dorms will have AC. There are a lot of construction projects happening on campus right now including the new Engineering school, Art Museum and new Fitness/Wellness Center.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No AC in most freshman forms in most colleges for $70K.

Kid at an ivy has AC in freshman dorms and so did most of the other elite schools we toured

Which one? Many do not. Yale has 1 residential college with AC that they intentionally "shut off" out of fairness according to a tour guide. Many other top colleges like Amherst do not have AC for freshman. Even some west coast colleges don't have ac.

Wow. Is is really true that Yale turned off AC in the 2 new residential colleges for “equity” reasons?

Princeton actually has quite a few dorms with AC - dorms in Whitman college, butler college, some of Forbes College and the two newest residential colleges: New College West, Yeh college. Hobson College will also have AC (estimated to be complete in 2026). So by then, over half of the dorms will have AC. There are a lot of construction projects happening on campus right now including the new Engineering school, Art Museum and new Fitness/Wellness Center.

It's actually kinda shocking a college would go out of its way to not accommodate students: https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/09/09/lac...c-frustrates-yalies/

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Anonymous wrote:Now we’ve gone from “dumpy and unimpressive” to “mold in hallways” to “rats and not fit for a dog”. Can you let me know where these rat-infested dorms not fit for a dog are, please? Yes I know Georgetown had mold problems. Be specific.

Not rocket science. Google is free.
https://www.themichaelrubino.com/list-of-mold-in-college-dorms/

Hey, douchey boy, stuff the google rocket science thing up your A$$. If you make a claim it's on you to support it. I am not your research assistant in charge of defending silly claims.

Oh and your link doesn't say anything about rats, does it? And you conveniently omitted the part where I conceded some colleges have mold problems, just like some homes. Means you are a dishonest interlocutor in addition to being a dick.

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I appreciate the extensive mold links

ChatGPT can quickly get you info on rats

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No AC in most freshman forms in most colleges for $70K.

Kid at an ivy has AC in freshman dorms and so did most of the other elite schools we toured

Which one? Many do not. Yale has 1 residential college with AC that they intentionally "shut off" out of fairness according to a tour guide. Many other top colleges like Amherst do not have AC for freshman. Even some west coast colleges don't have ac.

at most schools you can get a medical accommodation for AC in dorm.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No AC in most freshman forms in most colleges for $70K.

Kid at an ivy has AC in freshman dorms and so did most of the other elite schools we toured

Which one? Many do not. Yale has 1 residential college with AC that they intentionally "shut off" out of fairness according to a tour guide. Many other top colleges like Amherst do not have AC for freshman. Even some west coast colleges don't have ac.

This sounds like a student rumor and not fact. Don't be gullible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No AC in most freshman forms in most colleges for $70K.

Kid at an ivy has AC in freshman dorms and so did most of the other elite schools we toured

Which one? Many do not. Yale has 1 residential college with AC that they intentionally "shut off" out of fairness according to a tour guide. Many other top colleges like Amherst do not have AC for freshman. Even some west coast colleges don't have ac.

This sounds like a student rumor and not fact. Don't be gullible.

Or you could actually read the links provided earlier.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018/09/09/lac...c-frustrates-yalies/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we’ve gone from “dumpy and unimpressive” to “mold in hallways” to “rats and not fit for a dog”. Can you let me know where these rat-infested dorms not fit for a dog are, please? Yes I know Georgetown had mold problems. Be specific.

Not rocket science. Google is free.
https://www.themichaelrubino.com/list-of-mold-in-college-dorms/

Hey, douchey boy, stuff the google rocket science thing up your A$$. If you make a claim it's on you to support it. I am not your research assistant in charge of defending silly claims.

Oh and your link doesn't say anything about rats, does it? And you conveniently omitted the part where I conceded some colleges have mold problems, just like some homes. Means you are a dishonest interlocutor in addition to being a dick.

In fact, if you actually read some of the article links, they don't cover mold only...there are references to mice, bed bugs, radon, mushrooms, etc.

Who's the one being dishonest?

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Anonymous wrote:We toured almost every T15(all but stanford and Caltech) and found them all great, and they all emphasized small classes. All my kids attend a different one of these schools and find them intellectually stimulating with less than 1/4 of their classes over 40, including stem. We never toured any school outside of T25 that was not W&M or VT or W&L, so we did not see the big schools with the pretty pools and fancy dorms we have seen online. We were looking for academics and found the only ugly/dumpy one to be MIT, yet loved the intellectual vibe of our quirky tour guide. similar-vibe tour guides were WM Hopkins and Brown, but did not select the final schools based on love of tour. People do not pick T15s for beauty, they pick them for academics: faculty, peers, smallish classes. To each his own.

Many T15s have large classes, especially in the first two years.

Mine are at private T10 and an ivy and the classes are not large compared to UVA, UCB , others. Cousin at a different T10 and also has not had the large classes of a state school, even as a premed. We personally know kids who graduated '23 and '24 from three of the other private T15/ivies. Each of these kids has had one or two classes above 100, all the rest have been half under 30, half 31-70, and in junior and senior year most classes are under 20. Maybe that is "large" to some, but coming from public HS with 35-40 in each class it is very reasonable. UVA has almost all classes above 200 for the first 2 years. Sure, there may be LACs that have overall smaller average class size than ivies, but they also have classes in the 100s for at least some intro courses. Ivies/T15 for the most part have dramatically more seminar-style classes than top state schools, other than William&Mary which is mostly seminar and is modeled after the private/ivy style of education.
Even more important than class size is the opportunities for research with professors as early as freshman year, and professors connecting students for summer internships, volunteering to send emails and make connections. The students still need to hustle and investigate all options, but the connections the profs have with peer institutions is remarkable. That is what you are paying for, in addition to the value of having extremely bright peers and professors. And for some of us it is not 90k, because we get need-based aid bringing the cost to less than UVA with aid.

My very high-stats kid finished up her first year at UVA (Echols) and did not experience class sizes of 200+. To state that the first two years are mostly classes with 200+ is false. Research opportunities are abound starting first year as well. My kid is part of a professor’s research lab. The opportunities are endless. State schools are also filled with extremely bright peers and professors. Private schools do not have a monopoly on this front. Not all get need-based aid, my dear. In our case not one dollar. UVA is a great value for our family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now we’ve gone from “dumpy and unimpressive” to “mold in hallways” to “rats and not fit for a dog”. Can you let me know where these rat-infested dorms not fit for a dog are, please? Yes I know Georgetown had mold problems. Be specific.

Not rocket science. Google is free.
https://www.themichaelrubino.com/list-of-mold-in-college-dorms/

Hey, douchey boy, stuff the google rocket science thing up your A$$. If you make a claim it's on you to support it. I am not your research assistant in charge of defending silly claims.

Oh and your link doesn't say anything about rats, does it? And you conveniently omitted the part where I conceded some colleges have mold problems, just like some homes. Means you are a dishonest interlocutor in addition to being a dick.

In fact, if you actually read some of the article links, they don't cover mold only...there are references to mice, bed bugs, radon, mushrooms, etc.

Who's the one being dishonest?

You.

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LOL no. You're the one who would have us think that the articles talk about mold only, when clearly some of them don't.