Tons of people don’t tip Dashers or Shoppers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.

So, you feel automatically entitled to a tip simply because of the nature of the service you have chosen to provide. I assume no one forced you to become a Dasher?

That’s not how tipping works.

Sounds like you’d be happier in life if you got off your butt and a found a different type of job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.

So, you feel automatically entitled to a tip simply because of the nature of the service you have chosen to provide. I assume no one forced you to become a Dasher?

That’s not how tipping works.

Sounds like you’d be happier in life if you got off your butt and a found a different type of job.

Of course drivers should feel entitled to a tip when they provide good service. Just like waiters, pizza delivery, etc. That’s just how it works.

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Anonymous wrote:I think its gotten hard for that gig as food prices have skyrocketed, PLUS the extra 10-15% markup per item that instacart adds...people just don't want to tip on top of that. Is it right? No. But it is what it is.

Did a $454 two cart order for Instacart on Wednesday and zero tip!

We have a local forum list of non tippers where we no to not take or decline the order.

There’s a catch though for people if they pay with WIC or EBT for example they cannot tip with that card on file. Cash is also rare for some to have on hand.

It seems like a ridiculous frittering away of money to allow use of WIC and EBT for marked up optional services like food delivery.

You cant use EBT on food delivery from a restaurant, because EBT isnt allowed for prepared hot foods. You can only use it for ingredients/cold foods. So nobody is using EBT for Chipotle. They are using it for Walmart, Target, etc. deliveries.

There are MANY disabled people/seniors on EBT.

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Anonymous wrote:I think its gotten hard for that gig as food prices have skyrocketed, PLUS the extra 10-15% markup per item that instacart adds...people just don't want to tip on top of that. Is it right? No. But it is what it is.

Did a $454 two cart order for Instacart on Wednesday and zero tip!

We have a local forum list of non tippers where we no to not take or decline the order.

There’s a catch though for people if they pay with WIC or EBT for example they cannot tip with that card on file. Cash is also rare for some to have on hand.

I'm sorry but people on welfare should not be wasting it on a luxury service - I would hope it is banned entirely

Or maybe they should have delivery fees waived.

No need to punish people because they are struggling financially.

Why would grocery stores, which are in the private sector, do that? Why would apps like UberEats do that? They aren’t charities. They have zero incentive to.

Could be subsidized by govt.

I hope not. The SNAP benefit is already too high—it should be lower with the rest of the current amount going toward housing programs.

I have an 82 year old family member on social security (no retirement) who gets $79/mo in snap benefits. This is too much?

[Anonymous]

Like others here, I get home delivery from Safeway and always tip a certain percentage. The delivery driver can see the tip before accepting the order. They always thank me profusely and I do wonder if maybe others don't tip. I alwys get my groceries delivered right at the beginning of the time window; I am never let wondering when they will arrive. I often get the same drivers.

[Anonymous]

As I sit here at the beginning of my shift after 15 hours yesterday, I reflect on my visits to certain restaurants and seeing bags and bags of food waiting to be picked up by Uber or DD. I figured those were all orders by non-tippers. Anecdotal and a small sample size, but I know what I saw. There is also a code on the receipt we can see I'd it came through DD or UE.

Same thing with grocery orders on Instacart. The ones not being picked up have no tip included. There are about 20 this morning from around my area.

So you non-tuppers who claim to get your food or groceries just fine, just imagine how much faster your food would come if you either tipped or got up and picked it up or shopped for yourself!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As I sit here at the beginning of my shift after 15 hours yesterday, I reflect on my visits to certain restaurants and seeing bags and bags of food waiting to be picked up by Uber or DD. I figured those were all orders by non-tippers. Anecdotal and a small sample size, but I know what I saw. There is also a code on the receipt we can see I'd it came through DD or UE.

Same thing with grocery orders on Instacart. The ones not being picked up have no tip included. There are about 20 this morning from around my area.

So you non-tuppers who claim to get your food or groceries just fine, just imagine how much faster your food would come if you either tipped or got up and picked it up or shopped for yourself!

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In my area outside of Atlanta, DD is offering $4.50 in peak pay on top of their base as there are not enough drivers. Even with that peak pay, I still ignore any order that does not include a tip. As an IC, I am not required to pick up any order

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.

But delivery used to be free.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.

But delivery used to be free.

It was not really free. Just like the bread at restaurants isn’t really free. It was baked into the price of the food -you just didn’t see a line item. These delivery apps all are greedy and still claim to not make a profit. They take 25% of the gross sale of the bill so restaurants jack up their prices to accommodate that. Then they charge the customer a high delivery free and pay $2-$5 per delivery to the driver who then needs to rely on tips.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If there is already a service charge / delivery fee included, then why should I tip?

Because who knows who gets the delivery fee. The worker counts on the tip to make the $20-$25 an hour. Please stop ordering things. They have enough work without your cheap ass.

Look, tipping is not charity. People tip because the unspoken contract is that tip is included in price. But it’s unspoken and especially in new transactions like door dash, some people won’t do it. Save up your ire for Door Dash, which made the decision to make you rely on tips rather than pricing them into your payment directly.

Doordash still isn't profitable. They've made the decision to have workers rely on tips because being a dash driver is a job of desperation with high levels of churn. They really don't care if workers figure out they aren't making money and quit because there will be another worker to replace that one.

It is an unsustainable model.

Don’t blame the random hungry person.

It is not their business.

Blame door dash

Do you also support sweat shops?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I order $13 worth of food yesterday. I was slapped with an automatic delivery fee, a $3 service fee, and now there is tip. By the time I was done, I pay $11 in extraneous charges.

As people already said, Door Dash is a luxury service. It is not a budget option. Do not use the service if you can’t also tip.

I absolutely hate tipping culture at Starbucks, fast casual restaurants and so on. But you should always tip for SERVICES.

So do you also tip ups, usps, fed ex, and dhl?

Do you also tip your dentist, doctor, physical therapist, and garbage collector?

Those are all SERVICES provided to you.

We have conventions about tipping that are not bound by logic, but by tradition. We tip our waiter, but not the librarian who helps us find a book. We tip the pizza delivery person, but not the ups person who delivers a heavy item. Stating that there is a blanket rule about SERVICES is not true.

Tell me you haven’t set foot in a library in 20 years without telling me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.

Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!

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Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.

On the rare occasion I use DoorDash, I tip well. I rarely use it because I would rather show up to the restaurant and tip them instead - they are the ones making the food.

My point is that many people don’t tip because they don’t feel the need to. It’s not a valued service because too many people are willing to do it at low pay. There’s no need to get emotional about it - it sucks the same way that it sucks for teachers, home health aides, and daycare workers who are not paid enough. But again, that’s because there are plenty of people who want those jobs.

Your response shows a lack of awareness of how our economy works. The consumer will stop using a service when the fee is too expensive. Tipping, no matter how emotional you are about it, is legally optional. For dashers and shoppers, the convention for tipping is not as universal or longstanding like it is for waiters.

It’s up to the workers to decide if their compensation is too low. If they all quit, DoorDash would raise the fees, and then consumers would choose to pay or not. But that hasn’t happened because there are enough workers who are willing to take the pay. End of story.

Your blatant classism shows exactly how you feel about those providing a service. End of story. Period.

I’m actually in the restaurant business, so I’m pretty sure I am more intimately familiar with the service industry than you are. I know the skill level of a good waiter vs a good dasher and why waiters are routinely tipped while dashers are not.

Then, why don't you pay your servers and delivery staff at least minimum wage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.

So, you feel automatically entitled to a tip simply because of the nature of the service you have chosen to provide. I assume no one forced you to become a Dasher?

That’s not how tipping works.

Sounds like you’d be happier in life if you got off your butt and a found a different type of job.

You're cheap and pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.

Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!

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Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.

The job is not highly valued, you are delusional, people aren't going to give you money just because you want them to; you don't realize that you are on this forum begging, not advocating for an objectively just cause, and you sound pitiful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.

So, you feel automatically entitled to a tip simply because of the nature of the service you have chosen to provide. I assume no one forced you to become a Dasher?

That’s not how tipping works.

Sounds like you’d be happier in life if you got off your butt and a found a different type of job.

You're cheap and pathetic.

You think your insults are so influential, but think about it all you are doing is begging people for money.