Tons of people don’t tip Dashers or Shoppers

Anonymous
The alternative is to rely on random people to pay you what they feel like , if anything.

Why would that sound like a promising option?
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Anonymous wrote:Been earning some extra gelt as a shopper and food Dasher.

You wouldn’t believe the number of people who don’t tip ever for this SERVICE.

I could go on and on about not leaving lights on in the dark and not having a properly marked address either on the house, curb or mailbox. Not only does it make your food late, it also could be life threatening!


There is a delivery fee which is your tip!


The delivery fee does not go to the drivers. Many times it goes to the restaurant to pay the people bagging up your overpriced fattening food.
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Anonymous wrote:The alternative is to rely on random people to pay you what they feel like , if anything.

Why would that sound like a promising option?


That's why doordash/ubereats love the system. For some people, this is the best 'job' they can get, so they really aren't in a position to complain. Meanwhile the company minimizes their expenses
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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.


Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!


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Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.


On the rare occasion I use DoorDash, I tip well. I rarely use it because I would rather show up to the restaurant and tip them instead - they are the ones making the food.

My point is that many people don’t tip because they don’t feel the need to. It’s not a valued service because too many people are willing to do it at low pay. There’s no need to get emotional about it - it sucks the same way that it sucks for teachers, home health aides, and daycare workers who are not paid enough. But again, that’s because there are plenty of people who want those jobs.

Your response shows a lack of awareness of how our economy works. The consumer will stop using a service when the fee is too expensive. Tipping, no matter how emotional you are about it, is legally optional. For dashers and shoppers, the convention for tipping is not as universal or longstanding like it is for waiters.

It’s up to the workers to decide if their compensation is too low. If they all quit, DoorDash would raise the fees, and then consumers would choose to pay or not. But that hasn’t happened because there are enough workers who are willing to take the pay. End of story.


Your blatant classism shows exactly how you feel about those providing a service. End of story. Period.


I’m actually in the restaurant business, so I’m pretty sure I am more intimately familiar with the service industry than you are. I know the skill level of a good waiter vs a good dasher and why waiters are routinely tipped while dashers are not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you pay for delivery, why pay for tip too?

Aren’t you paid from the delivery charge?


Because it's a service job. If you pay for dinner at a restaurant, why pay for tip too?

Drivers do not get the delivery charge.
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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.


Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!


+1

Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.


On the rare occasion I use DoorDash, I tip well. I rarely use it because I would rather show up to the restaurant and tip them instead - they are the ones making the food.

My point is that many people don’t tip because they don’t feel the need to. It’s not a valued service because too many people are willing to do it at low pay. There’s no need to get emotional about it - it sucks the same way that it sucks for teachers, home health aides, and daycare workers who are not paid enough. But again, that’s because there are plenty of people who want those jobs.

Your response shows a lack of awareness of how our economy works. The consumer will stop using a service when the fee is too expensive. Tipping, no matter how emotional you are about it, is legally optional. For dashers and shoppers, the convention for tipping is not as universal or longstanding like it is for waiters.

It’s up to the workers to decide if their compensation is too low. If they all quit, DoorDash would raise the fees, and then consumers would choose to pay or not. But that hasn’t happened because there are enough workers who are willing to take the pay. End of story.


Your blatant classism shows exactly how you feel about those providing a service. End of story. Period.


I’m actually in the restaurant business, so I’m pretty sure I am more intimately familiar with the service industry than you are. I know the skill level of a good waiter vs a good dasher and why waiters are routinely tipped while dashers are not.


Ahhhhh...now it's clear. Restauranteurs/chefs/waiters don't value don't value the job of delivery people. Newsflash: the rest of us do!
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Anonymous wrote:I order $13 worth of food yesterday. I was slapped with an automatic delivery fee, a $3 service fee, and now there is tip. By the time I was done, I pay $11 in extraneous charges.


As people already said, Door Dash is a luxury service. It is not a budget option. Do not use the service if you can’t also tip.

I absolutely hate tipping culture at Starbucks, fast casual restaurants and so on. But you should always tip for SERVICES.


So do you also tip ups, usps, fed ex, and dhl?

Do you also tip your dentist, doctor, physical therapist, and garbage collector?

Those are all SERVICES provided to you.

We have conventions about tipping that are not bound by logic, but by tradition. We tip our waiter, but not the librarian who helps us find a book. We tip the pizza delivery person, but not the ups person who delivers a heavy item. Stating that there is a blanket rule about SERVICES is not true.
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Anonymous wrote:I order $13 worth of food yesterday. I was slapped with an automatic delivery fee, a $3 service fee, and now there is tip. By the time I was done, I pay $11 in extraneous charges.


As people already said, Door Dash is a luxury service. It is not a budget option. Do not use the service if you can’t also tip.

I absolutely hate tipping culture at Starbucks, fast casual restaurants and so on. But you should always tip for SERVICES.


So do you also tip ups, usps, fed ex, and dhl?

Do you also tip your dentist, doctor, physical therapist, and garbage collector?

Those are all SERVICES provided to you.

We have conventions about tipping that are not bound by logic, but by tradition. We tip our waiter, but not the librarian who helps us find a book. We tip the pizza delivery person, but not the ups person who delivers a heavy item. Stating that there is a blanket rule about SERVICES is not true.


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This ridiculous double standard is of the reasons I always pick up my food orders. I was sick of feeling guilty about it.
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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.


Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!


+1

Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.


On the rare occasion I use DoorDash, I tip well. I rarely use it because I would rather show up to the restaurant and tip them instead - they are the ones making the food.

My point is that many people don’t tip because they don’t feel the need to. It’s not a valued service because too many people are willing to do it at low pay. There’s no need to get emotional about it - it sucks the same way that it sucks for teachers, home health aides, and daycare workers who are not paid enough. But again, that’s because there are plenty of people who want those jobs.

Your response shows a lack of awareness of how our economy works. The consumer will stop using a service when the fee is too expensive. Tipping, no matter how emotional you are about it, is legally optional. For dashers and shoppers, the convention for tipping is not as universal or longstanding like it is for waiters.

It’s up to the workers to decide if their compensation is too low. If they all quit, DoorDash would raise the fees, and then consumers would choose to pay or not. But that hasn’t happened because there are enough workers who are willing to take the pay. End of story.


Your blatant classism shows exactly how you feel about those providing a service. End of story. Period.


I’m actually in the restaurant business, so I’m pretty sure I am more intimately familiar with the service industry than you are. I know the skill level of a good waiter vs a good dasher and why waiters are routinely tipped while dashers are not.


Ahhhhh...now it's clear. Restauranteurs/chefs/waiters don't value don't value the job of delivery people. Newsflash: the rest of us do!


No, I told you that I do tip generously. I tip everyone generously because I can afford it. But obviously not everyone does and that is why OP is upset. And the reason not everyone tips dashers and shoppers is because it’s not valued as much. This isn’t personal, so don’t try to make it so. If you look back, I never made any judgments about whether this is good or bad, like you have, or thrown insults about. It is what it is -the economics of a business that, as other posters have said, underpays workers to do a job because they know that there are plenty of others who will take the low pay and lousy tips. There is very little skill or training involved compared to being a barista or a fast food worker, so it’s no loss to DoorDash when someone quits and a new person is hired.

You are welcome to tip as generously as you want, but it won’t change the way DoorDash runs their business. Dashers are easily replaceable for them.
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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.


Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!


+1

Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.


On the rare occasion I use DoorDash, I tip well. I rarely use it because I would rather show up to the restaurant and tip them instead - they are the ones making the food.

My point is that many people don’t tip because they don’t feel the need to. It’s not a valued service because too many people are willing to do it at low pay. There’s no need to get emotional about it - it sucks the same way that it sucks for teachers, home health aides, and daycare workers who are not paid enough. But again, that’s because there are plenty of people who want those jobs.

Your response shows a lack of awareness of how our economy works. The consumer will stop using a service when the fee is too expensive. Tipping, no matter how emotional you are about it, is legally optional. For dashers and shoppers, the convention for tipping is not as universal or longstanding like it is for waiters.

It’s up to the workers to decide if their compensation is too low. If they all quit, DoorDash would raise the fees, and then consumers would choose to pay or not. But that hasn’t happened because there are enough workers who are willing to take the pay. End of story.


Your blatant classism shows exactly how you feel about those providing a service. End of story. Period.


I’m actually in the restaurant business, so I’m pretty sure I am more intimately familiar with the service industry than you are. I know the skill level of a good waiter vs a good dasher and why waiters are routinely tipped while dashers are not.


You also have no idea of my skill level, the reasons for dashing and the level of service I provide.

You are right DoorDash can get more but that is no reason one should not tip or leave their light in at night!
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Anonymous wrote:Ask yourself this - why did you become a dasher or shopper instead of taking a job as a waiter with reliable tips? Oh, is it because you can’t commit to working full time? Is it because you don’t want to have a boss to answer to? Is it because you would rather work when you want and set your own hours?

The reason that dashers and shoppers are not tipped as well as you would want is that there is no shortage of people who choose the flexibility of a gig job over a scheduled job. So you quit being a dasher because the tips are lousy - DoorDash doesn’t care. They can just hire the next person who comes along.

The bottom line is that your job is not valued. If not, they would raise the wage. Customers are sick of tipping on top of all the fees for delivery. Driving food from one place to another is not like waiting on someone in a restaurant. It’s not valued by DoorDash and it’s not valued by the consumer. And I’m sure you are about to write, “well then, I quit- go pick up your own food”. Sure, you can quit. There are ten more college students, wanna be actors, part time students etc who will take your place and no one will even notice.


Keep trying to justify why you don’t tip!


+1

Based on the number of shoppers that I see at the store, this job is highly valued.

No one is forcing you to use delivery services. If you don't want to tip, get off your lazy a$$ and buy your own stuff.


On the rare occasion I use DoorDash, I tip well. I rarely use it because I would rather show up to the restaurant and tip them instead - they are the ones making the food.

My point is that many people don’t tip because they don’t feel the need to. It’s not a valued service because too many people are willing to do it at low pay. There’s no need to get emotional about it - it sucks the same way that it sucks for teachers, home health aides, and daycare workers who are not paid enough. But again, that’s because there are plenty of people who want those jobs.

Your response shows a lack of awareness of how our economy works. The consumer will stop using a service when the fee is too expensive. Tipping, no matter how emotional you are about it, is legally optional. For dashers and shoppers, the convention for tipping is not as universal or longstanding like it is for waiters.

It’s up to the workers to decide if their compensation is too low. If they all quit, DoorDash would raise the fees, and then consumers would choose to pay or not. But that hasn’t happened because there are enough workers who are willing to take the pay. End of story.


Your blatant classism shows exactly how you feel about those providing a service. End of story. Period.


I’m actually in the restaurant business, so I’m pretty sure I am more intimately familiar with the service industry than you are. I know the skill level of a good waiter vs a good dasher and why waiters are routinely tipped while dashers are not.


You also have no idea of my skill level, the reasons for dashing and the level of service I provide.

You are right DoorDash can get more but that is no reason one should not tip or leave their light in at night!


One of the main appeals of being a dasher is that there are very few skill requirements. You need a smartphone and a mode of transportation. There isn't even an interview. There are no minimum hours. When Mcdonald's hires someone, they go through orientation and on the job training under supervision while they learn how to use the register, how to take orders, how to prepare the food. Those are skills that are valued, and McDonald's doesn't want people to work for 2 weeks and then jet. Doordash doesn't care because they don't invest any time training people, and untrained dashers are just as good as long time veterans to their bottom line. Whereas, experienced employees at McDonalds are more valued for their efficiency, customer service, etc.

By the way, are you OP? Or a different poster? I didn't realize you were a dasher. I don't mean to insult anyone, but dashers require zero training compared to other jobs. That may or may not be a reason why people take the job, but it's definitely a reason why they aren't paid very much.
Anonymous
Don’t know the last time you went in McDonalds but in my area they are putting people to work the day they are hired if they can fog a mirror. Also a huge turn over!
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Anonymous wrote:Don’t know the last time you went in McDonalds but in my area they are putting people to work the day they are hired if they can fog a mirror. Also a huge turn over!


just imagine if they had even lower standards for hire. like doordash. no need to commit to any hours, no need to speak to a human being to get hired, no need to speak to anyone, period.
Anonymous
As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a Dasher myself, it is amazing the excuses peo9le will give for not tipping.

The service charge and inflated prices
The drivers are not skilled labor
It is DoorDash's fault
I don't tip other delivery

Face it you are just cheap

Food delivery SERVICE has traditionally been tipped from the time the options were only Chinese and pizza. Now you have 100's of other options

Want food or groceries delivered, either tip or get off your lazy butt and go get it yourself! Period.


So, you feel automatically entitled to a tip simply because of the nature of the service you have chosen to provide. I assume no one forced you to become a Dasher?

That’s not how tipping works.

Sounds like you’d be happier in life if you got off your butt and a found a different type of job.
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