TJ Commended Student Emails Released - Who is really responsible?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


So many RWNJs on this thread. I'm not sure whether to be concerned or amused.


GFY. The Democrats would absolutely crap in their pants if eligible Black kids somehow hadn't been made aware of the National Achievement Scholarship Program when that program was in effect.


Stop spreading lies.

Zero scholarships were affected.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


The rest of FCPS burns while C4TJ fiddles.


That is the GOP's goal. Burn it all down.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.


Who exactly do you think is responsible for these “many problems”? FCPS has been completely dominated by Democrats during the period in which FCPS’s reputation has declined precipitously.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


When I was in high school, they took a picture of the semi-finalists for the yearbook. Don't you remember...er...oh. I guess the people in this thread weren't in that picture.

It cracks me up that people are losing their minds. Don't you remember how unimportant this was in school? It's the PSAT!
Anonymous
Some number of students have a marginally weaker college application due to this error. A lot of college admission decisions come down to marginal differences. Very likely for an individual student it makes no difference, but over 100 students I am not as confident that this made no difference to admissions decisions.

It appears to be established the director of student services lied about it to a parent.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.


Who exactly do you think is responsible for these “many problems”? FCPS has been completely dominated by Democrats during the period in which FCPS’s reputation has declined precipitously.


It has only declined precipitously amongst a very small group of people in a very small echo chamber.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Great parent letters, IMO (not a high school parent, so no dog in this fight)


Starts off reasonable then quickly goes off the rails.

You lied to me!


She completely went off the rails, IMO. Honestly, of everything coming across the desk of someone in student services, this is SO, SO low on the priority list. It actually pisses me off to think of the valuable time wasted across the county to “investigate” this clerical error.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Some number of students have a marginally weaker college application due to this error. A lot of college admission decisions come down to marginal differences. Very likely for an individual student it makes no difference, but over 100 students I am not as confident that this made no difference to admissions decisions.

It appears to be established the director of student services lied about it to a parent.


There is absolutely no evidence that he lied. She concluded that he lied, but there is no reason to believe this is the case. If they’ve gotten the same pro-forma cover letter from the company for 15 years, no one in the office is reading it anymore. It is a okay Tory a logical assumption that kids would be contacted by the company since this is a private company, out of FCPS, that produces these awards.

It sounds like he spent a long time on the phone with her and was forthcoming and perhaps too open about his own opinions. But there is no evidence at all that he lied. Sounds far more likely that the office was busy, these aren’t a big deal (they truly are not) and it skipped someone’s mind. I myself have ADHD. If something disappears in a pile, it is quite likely that I could forget about it for literally weeks for no nefarious reason. School employees are incredibly overworked these days.

To think of all the school personnel time that has now been lost to this one parent on a complete bender.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.


Who exactly do you think is responsible for these “many problems”? FCPS has been completely dominated by Democrats during the period in which FCPS’s reputation has declined precipitously.


It has only declined precipitously amongst a very small group of people in a very small echo chamber.


The only ways in which FCPS has declined precipitously is in the massive amount of standardized testing that continues to be piled on and on and on. We literally have WEEKS less instructional time. Who is pushing for all that testing? Republicans, ever since NCLB. More a more and more testing, less and less instructional time.

I’ve been teaching since 1994. THAT’s the biggest change and the biggest erosion of educational quality.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


Exactly. Less testing. less measurement, and less (or no) accountability. Teachers should not have any measurement on whether or not they are effective and they should have four-day work weeks.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.


Who exactly do you think is responsible for these “many problems”? FCPS has been completely dominated by Democrats during the period in which FCPS’s reputation has declined precipitously.


It has only declined precipitously amongst a very small group of people in a very small echo chamber.


The only ways in which FCPS has declined precipitously is in the massive amount of standardized testing that continues to be piled on and on and on. We literally have WEEKS less instructional time. Who is pushing for all that testing? Republicans, ever since NCLB. More a more and more testing, less and less instructional time.

I’ve been teaching since 1994. THAT’s the biggest change and the biggest erosion of educational quality.
Anonymous
There was a meeting last night in the Langley High School cafeteria where the Superintendent was in attendance. I know this because I was at the school last night for another event.

What was this meeting about? Who was invited? It looked like there may have been press there as well?

This “scandal” is spinning out of control and FCPS is making it worse and worse with their response.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.


Who exactly do you think is responsible for these “many problems”? FCPS has been completely dominated by Democrats during the period in which FCPS’s reputation has declined precipitously.


It has only declined precipitously amongst a very small group of people in a very small echo chamber.


The only ways in which FCPS has declined precipitously is in the massive amount of standardized testing that continues to be piled on and on and on. We literally have WEEKS less instructional time. Who is pushing for all that testing? Republicans, ever since NCLB. More a more and more testing, less and less instructional time.

I’ve been teaching since 1994. THAT’s the biggest change and the biggest erosion of educational quality.


The Republicans have been in no position to dictate an increasing amount of standardized testing in FCPS classrooms in recent years. If you believe this, you really have no business in a classroom.

As for NCLB, it passed with overwhelming bipartisan support in 2002, and was motivated by the same desire for “equal outcomes” that the consultants paid by Reid espouse. The main difference was that NCLB led to a hyper-focus on measuring progress, whereas the equity consultants today want to deny and eliminate performance metrics. That would take some pressure off teachers, but then we’d have no way of knowing whether kids are learning.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There certainly needs to be regime change at FCPS and on the School Board. Not sure this particular issue will get the Republicans there, although the Democrats seem to be trying to help them by claiming that kids in the top 2-3% of PSAT test takers (but not top 1%) are low-achievers begging for a “participation trophy.”

Most of the URMs the Democrats pretend to care about so much would be over the moon if their kids were commended students in the top 3%.


I think the coalition for TJ needs to keep up their attacks. Of course I'm a democrat and enjoy watching them alienate the rest of county


I'm not a Republican, but I was alienated by how many Democrats responded to this situation by suggesting that being recognized as among the top 3% of PSAT test-takers was a non-event akin to a "participation trophy" for kids who weren't Semifinalists (in the top 1%). For a party that often goes after "1%-ers," this seemed awfully crude and disrespectful.

Of course I'm a former commended student, as was one of my kids, so apparently we don't really belong in the same room with the TJAAG types.


You think that they need their own ceremony for this? It wasn't well-attended in the past if that gives you any idea of the student interest.


Exactly. Less testing. less measurement, and less (or no) accountability. Teachers should not have any measurement on whether or not they are effective and they should have four-day work weeks.


No, I don't think there needs to be a "ceremony." Just let the commended kids know on a timely basis and maybe take a picture for the yearbook.


OK. They were notified. Sounds like they will notify them more quickly in the future.

No matter how you slice it, it doesn't warrant a state investigation.


Agree. FCPS has many problems; this isn't one of them.


Who exactly do you think is responsible for these “many problems”? FCPS has been completely dominated by Democrats during the period in which FCPS’s reputation has declined precipitously.


It has only declined precipitously amongst a very small group of people in a very small echo chamber.


The only ways in which FCPS has declined precipitously is in the massive amount of standardized testing that continues to be piled on and on and on. We literally have WEEKS less instructional time. Who is pushing for all that testing? Republicans, ever since NCLB. More a more and more testing, less and less instructional time.

I’ve been teaching since 1994. THAT’s the biggest change and the biggest erosion of educational quality.
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