“Stuff Some Adults Don’t Want You to Read” at Langley

[Anonymous]

A lot worse is shown/implied in a lot of TV shows and movies and not in a cartoonish form. Like, for example, the comedy There's Something About Mary, circa 1998... And if you don't think high school kids know about this anyway, well I am not sure how to help you ... In any event, this is not railing against one particular book --- it's railing against a dozen or more books (that's why the banned books actually fill a table).

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Also - have not read the book but found that cartoon page online. Seems like the theme is that the character did not actually enjoy this - and suggested not doing it. What a thing to teach children ... that they can say no! Wow, radical.

[Anonymous]

All of the superior Langley parenting undone by a librarian's sign. Heaven forbid the little darlings that will be entering college in a few short years have a different perspective than their long suffering parents.
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Anonymous wrote:Also - have not read the book but found that cartoon page online. Seems like the theme is that the character did not actually enjoy this - and suggested not doing it. What a thing to teach children ... that they can say no! Wow, radical.

Yes, the book doesn’t actually promote sex at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of the superior Langley parenting undone by a librarian's sign. Heaven forbid the little darlings that will be entering college in a few short years have a different perspective than their long suffering parents.
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The Langley parents don’t care. It’s a middle school parent some Loudoun posters.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the superior Langley parenting undone by a librarian's sign. Heaven forbid the little darlings that will be entering college in a few short years have a different perspective than their long suffering parents.
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It was a parent who has a history of being outraged and going to the press. The vast majority of Langley parents do not care about this. At all. We are rolling our eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:All of the superior Langley parenting undone by a librarian's sign. Heaven forbid the little darlings that will be entering college in a few short years have a different perspective than their long suffering parents.
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It was a parent who has a history of being outraged and going to the press. The vast majority of Langley parents do not care about this. At all. We are rolling our eyes.

Why don't you push back, then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was a ridiculous display clearly done to piss off parents. There is no way it wasn’t done maliciously.

The sad thing is that it is Black History month. Instead of focusing on that and promoting books by black authors and about black history, they are creating displays to cause issues and distract from that.

And PPs all saying it was clever and all that - you are pretty transparent. I know you aren’t dumb enough to really believe they did it to promote reading.

I'm a parent that toured Langley with my 8th grader last weekend. We weren't pissed off at all. I actually thought it was funny, and accurate. I was surprised that the library was so small for such a large high school. That's what parents should be concerned about.

Nice trolling! The library is large and beautiful - which you would know had you actually been there. Which you weren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of the superior Langley parenting undone by a librarian's sign. Heaven forbid the little darlings that will be entering college in a few short years have a different perspective than their long suffering parents.
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It was a parent who has a history of being outraged and going to the press. The vast majority of Langley parents do not care about this. At all. We are rolling our eyes.

DP. Please speak for yourself. I'm a Langley parent and most of the other parents I know think it was really inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:The laughable thing here is that parents who are secure in their own values don’t fear their children being exposed to books. They are not afraid to talk to their children about new ideas, and are not afraid of having in their values challenged. The parents who want to prevent their kids from reading these books are the ones who know, deep down, that their own values are wrong.

Let’s get real. The people opposed to Gender Queer aren’t worried their kids will be traumatized by a drawing, they’re afraid their kids will catch the LGBTQ.

But doesn't it also go both ways? I don't support the R or the L banning as a matter of principle. It's the whole first amendment - you have to allow speech you don't like to protect the speech you do like - because we don't want what is able to be said to depend on who happens to be the arbiter because it could be an arbiter we don't like.

But anyway - I don't get my panties in a twist if books are banned either - because it's not going to affect my kids - and it does happen on both the right and the left. They can still read whatever the hell they want, and I also teach them critical thinking and to have a healthy distrust of authority

The people who are really against censorship should be coming out against the censorship on the left too - and there have been plenty of articles linked about that here.

I didn’t advocate for any censorship. Your post is nothing but whataboutism designed distract from the weaknesses in your own position.

No - I’m pointing out that you have double standards on censorship which is apropos.

Expect I don’t because I have not advocated for or supported any censorship. I don’t think you understand what a double standard is.

If you want to strengthen the argument against censorship - don’t only cite the censorship you disagree with in your argument. And you only critiqued the censorship by the right in your argument. Allowing / not criticizing censorship by the left weakens the case against ALL censorship.

This thread is about a book display at Langley. That is literally the topic of the discussion. If liberal parents at Langley also complained about the display, I think they were wrong too.

What books have liberals/the left tried to ban in VA schools? I’ll wait.

Let me get that for you - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/to-kill-a-mockingbird-huckleberry-finn-suspended-by-virginia-school-for-racial-slurs/

DP. You are misrepresenting that case quite a bit. The parent who submitted the request did not ask that the books be banned from school libraries. She only requested that they be removed from the school curriculum and replaced with other important works of literature addressing the same themes that do not make such heavy use of the N-word, because she believed that having students read these books sends the implicit message that use of the word was okay. School libraries contain many books that are not part of the curriculum, so removing the books from the school curriculum would not have required removing them from the the library.

DP. Then why was there such an outcry from the left when the mom requested an option other than "Beloved" for her son to read? She wasn't trying to ban the book - she simply wanted other options available. Yet the liberal loons here (and elsewhere) were *outraged* that she dare to make this request - because "racism"!! Such a double standard, don't you think??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you want to know what I’m really upset about?

That my 10th grader (in all honors classes) has only been required by his Langley coursework to read 1 book this school year so far. He read 2 books last year. He has not written anything over two pages long this entire school year for any class.

They have dumbed down the classes big time. THIS is what parents should be writing 22 pages over.

[yes, he reads outside of school, but to sure would be nice if his English class actually required reading vs the endless slidedecks]

My Langley kids have plenty of reading to do - including my 10th grader. Always a book going for English class. Is your kid in Honors English? Honors and AP (once he's a junior) will assign a ton of reading.

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Anonymous wrote:Also - have not read the book but found that cartoon page online. Seems like the theme is that the character did not actually enjoy this - and suggested not doing it. What a thing to teach children ... that they can say no! Wow, radical.

Yes, the book doesn’t actually promote sex at all.

Ooh, now tell us all about Lawn Boy. With quotes.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Also - have not read the book but found that cartoon page online. Seems like the theme is that the character did not actually enjoy this - and suggested not doing it. What a thing to teach children ... that they can say no! Wow, radical.

Yes, the book doesn’t actually promote sex at all.

Ooh, now tell us all about Lawn Boy. With quotes.
DP

Two kids exploring their bodies. Like playing doctor.

[Anonymous]

The woman who stirred this all up in the first place is one of the three named people suing over the ffx mask mandate. She is a Republican operative w ties to Cato, National Review, etc. She is a parent to a 1st and 4th grader, not a Langley parent, yet all the news sources are quoting her and she is getting air time. She is also one of the parents who show up in the Guy Fawkes mask at sb meetings. I’m all for free speech, but it really pisses me off that one voice is getting so much press and that the media keeps calling her “parent” in regards to the Langley story when she is not a Langley parent.

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Anonymous wrote:The woman who stirred this all up in the first place is one of the three named people suing over the ffx mask mandate. She is a Republican operative w ties to Cato, National Review, etc. She is a parent to a 1st and 4th grader, not a Langley parent, yet all the news sources are quoting her and she is getting air time. She is also one of the parents who show up in the Guy Fawkes mask at sb meetings. I’m all for free speech, but it really pisses me off that one voice is getting so much press and that the media keeps calling her “parent” in regards to the Langley story when she is not a Langley parent.

Imagine if she used all of that energy and power for good instead of evil.

Nope.