
Finally, some rational thinking from anti-choicers! |
um, pro-choicers should have the same goal, no? |
Pro-choicers do have this goal and it's what we have been saying for years. I read the article this morning and let out a big "duh, no s!@#" |
Actually, many pro-life organizations have focused on this for awhile. They're not all stupid, you know. |
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Yes. It has gone unrecognized that many of the churches that oppose abortion have provided free services for young expectant mothers, new mothers, and adoption services.
Now if they would support birth control, they could really impact the problem. |
...as if it's the lack of access to birth control that's causing all these abortions. |
This has got to be the dumbest article I've seen in a long time. Anti-abortion groups have been fighting for *decades* to help lower the incidence of abortion. There are thousands of anti-abortion organizations and churches in this country that actually help women have their baby rather than abort it, by offering both physical and financial support during unplanned pregnancies. The angle in the article is "poor little pro-lifers, finally getting a clue now that Obama is going to be president." BAHHHHHHH.
Please, someone tell me which pro-abortion groups actually work to help women keep their babies rather than abort them? And what services do they offer to help do this? |
As a Catholic who has had an abortion, I can tell you there is much emotional rhetoric that has no basis in truth regarding this topic.
This may seem a bit off topic, but it I hope to show how misinformed people are in all phases of this this topic. After my unfortunate experience, I have been embraced in a nonjudgmental, loving way by the Catholic Church. However, family was not so supportive. My family ("professionals") have banned us from their home. Abortion is a hot topic. However, the God we believe in is a loving, caring God. Whatever higher power you believe in, I doubt that entity would be supportive of the judgemental banter surrounding this topic. |
Belief is not just a question of which, but of whether. |
I found this statement odd. I am pro choice. But to say God would probably not be supportive of the tone of this discussion? Don't you think god has better things to worry about? Like murder and torture and starving kiddos and .... maybe even actual abortions vs. the discussion of abortions? IF you believe that abortion is murder, that it is in essence a holocaust of the unborn, then aren't you obligated to take a very strident tone against abortion? Or hopefully now, as this article states, take a strong role in helping to prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions? |
I would love to know this too. My pro-life denomination consistently supports mothers in need to keep their babies. We collect used baby gear (strollers, cribs, car seats, you name it) all the time from members who no longer need them, provide financial assistance, etc. We walk our talk. I have yet to see a pro-abortion group lift a finger to make abortion 'rare' and offer mother in need the choice to bear their child and either raise the child or make an adoptive family very happy. |
I'm pro-choice. The question about what are pro abortion groups doing to help women keep their babies is an interesting one. I do not know the answer.
Let's take Planned Parenthood for example. They don't JUST advocate abortion. They also advocate birth control, sex education.... so it seems to me they are consistently supporting their principles which involve making choices BEFORE giving birth. I would call this push for birth control/sex ed "lifting a finger to make abortion rare". Organizations (which I know are all different and unique) that oppose abortion, especially on moral/Judeo Christian grounds, do their cause a disservice by opposing birth control, opposing sex ed, and perhaps by, sometimes, taking or supporting an attitude that emphasizes "personal responsibility and accountability" - in other words, we don't want an abortion to be legal for you but good luck in making ends meet, getting an education, finding/affording child care/health care, paying your taxes, etc. etc. To me this attitude is a big part of the Republican platform and goes hand in hand with their anti-choice stance. IF you are going to advocate for the birth of unwanted babies, don't you have a moral obligation to contribute to the care of these children that you, in essence, helped bring into the world? And isn't that moral obligation even greater IF you are pro-life on religious grounds? Religions that emphasize charity? I have long wished that those who were passionate in their pro-life views would devote themselves not to making abortion illegal, but to promoting abstinence, sex ed, birth control, and finally, alternatives to abortion like charity, adoption, etc. If you are anti-abortion, you've got to come at the problem from every angle. Can you imagine the wonderful effect it would have if ALL pro-life orgs did ALL this? |
PP, bear in mind that many pro-life organizations, especially the Roman Catholic Church, are also firm proponents of abstinence and support organizations such as Birth Right with time, talent and treasure. However, to ask them to support birth control, to which they are doctrinally opposed, is a bridge too far.
Catholics like myself take very seriously the protection of life, born and unborn, and we DO support all efforts to help pregnant women have the option of life for their baby, not death. To think we just say "don't do it" and leave it at that is very wrong. I invite you to attend a Catholic Mass on Sunday - I am confident that both from the altar and in the bulletin you will find opportunities and encouragement to support the unborn and their mothers. |