DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

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Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.


Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏


I overheard a player (not parent or coach or any other adult but a player) say that he wasn't even sure he would accept an offer if DCU offered. Not for the very valid and logical reasons laid out in this thread and others but because he doesn't think they are good enough and he would be better off there. lol


Does this kid also give stock and retirement portfolio advice?

You should have told him, if you're actually as good as you think, going to DCU would give you the exposure at the professional academy level to be seen by all.
Then you can go anywhere.

If you have to be on a good team, then you need teammates to make you look good.


And if you told him that you'd be giving him sh#ty advice. He's not saying he has to be on a good team, he's saying the level and coaching isn't good enough or a massive step change for it to be worth it. In fact, he'd probably be on a much worse team if he stayed where he is (which he was willing to do) but get all.the touches and attention (which he would definitely not get at DCU). Smart kid.

The exposure DCU gets you doesn't warrant giving up your player rights to them and doesn't justify the terrible system and academy.they are running.

I would tell the kid you need to think about your soccer goals and where you want to be in 4 years. If college is your ambition you don't need DCU to achieve that and the club you're in is probably good enough if you're good enough AND staying out allows you to move freely whenever you want to other stronger MLS academies or to Europe. If f professional soccer is your ambition, DCU is also not the pathway because it is a crap organization that isn't built to produce pro players. If you really want to be a pro, try to leave the DMV to go to a better academy that is close or, if you can, go to Europe. Stay far away from DCU as long as you can. If DCU is your only.optopn, take it, but also negotiate with them about your player rights and try get get as much as you can out of them because they aren't going to give you a lot.

Props to this kid for knowing more about player development than you do.
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Admin keeps deleting my responses to your attacks, so I'll leave the thread for you to enjoy
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Let's discuss how horrible their new "residency" program is...
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Anonymous wrote:Admin keeps deleting my responses to your attacks, so I'll leave the thread for you to enjoy


But somehow this post got here 🤔
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.


Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏


Explain the "FIFA Expert" part of your resume so we can give you the respect and reverence you seek

Where were you internationally and involved directly in what capacities?


I owe you nothing and have nothing to prove to you. The beauty of being comfortable in your place in life. Believe what you want to believe. It doesn't matter to me. I don't seek reverence or respect. I only give information to those that want it.

For people like you, I take amusement in watching you scramble to keep up with me and how your shallow existence crumbles every time someone says DCU sucks. Because you want so badly for it to be good. Keep trying. You will never match my knowledge and you will never be able to convince anyone that DCU is a good place. But I've convinced A LOT of people that DCU is a trash bin over many many months and pages on this forum of making your words look dumb. ✌️


🎤 drop
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Anonymous wrote:Admin keeps deleting my responses to your attacks, so I'll leave the thread for you to enjoy


I’m not PP or any PP that has posted about DCU. Just a parent looking for info. But I have been reporting posts that are purely attacks on the messenger and have zero value add to the DCU academy conversation. I guess admin agreed with me.
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Anonymous wrote:Admin keeps deleting my responses to your attacks, so I'll leave the thread for you to enjoy


I’m not PP or any PP that has posted about DCU. Just a parent looking for info. But I have been reporting posts that are purely attacks on the messenger and have zero value add to the DCU academy conversation. I guess admin agreed with me.


Reported.
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Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


The problem is that he needs game time against men, but there is no way he is going to get minutes with the first team. So I assume he'll get loaned out to USL teams like that other kid, and have the USL team develop him.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


Yes by contract he will get the homegrown baseline salary which is a reserve player salary which is 80k per year. He isn't ready to practice with the first team or with men and he will most likely stay with the u19 or even u17 which is why the move is questionable. Definitely NOT a no brainer for the family. I do understand and appreciate that 80k is a lot of money for many families and I don't underestimate that. But to give up college scholarships for this is just not a smart decision. Not in DCUs system. If the got 250k, which is about what 4 years of college is running these days then I could justify that if he banked all of it. These homegrown deals are just not good for the players. And for this kid, he just Wed himself to one of the worst organizations in the MLS and threw away college money. I just can't get on board with that. Not for 80k.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


The problem is that he needs game time against men, but there is no way he is going to get minutes with the first team. So I assume he'll get loaned out to USL teams like that other kid, and have the USL team develop him.


This is why having a second team is so important. You can control the roster as you please. now, DCU has to convince a USL club to take him and agree on terms. For a 15 year old with no experience playing against men, this is a massively tough sell. I see him staying with the academy for another two years. .which is why a homegrown contract at this point makes no sense.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


The problem is that he needs game time against men, but there is no way he is going to get minutes with the first team. So I assume he'll get loaned out to USL teams like that other kid, and have the USL team develop him.


This part doesn't seem that bad. I'm with the posts questioning/condemning the quality of DCU, but if this is the result for this kid, then good for him. No?
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


The problem is that he needs game time against men, but there is no way he is going to get minutes with the first team. So I assume he'll get loaned out to USL teams like that other kid, and have the USL team develop him.


This part doesn't seem that bad. I'm with the posts questioning/condemning the quality of DCU, but if this is the result for this kid, then good for him. No?


The smarter move would have been to turn down the 4 year homegrown contract and try out for USL teams for a 2 year contract. At the end of the 2 years when he's 17, tryout overseas with no one owning your rights. But now, DCU has him for 4 years and will charge stupid money if any euro club wants him, essentially blocking his move to play overseas.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


The problem is that he needs game time against men, but there is no way he is going to get minutes with the first team. So I assume he'll get loaned out to USL teams like that other kid, and have the USL team develop him.


This part doesn't seem that bad. I'm with the posts questioning/condemning the quality of DCU, but if this is the result for this kid, then good for him. No?


The smarter move would have been to turn down the 4 year homegrown contract and try out for USL teams for a 2 year contract. At the end of the 2 years when he's 17, tryout overseas with no one owning your rights. But now, DCU has him for 4 years and will charge stupid money if any euro club wants him, essentially blocking his move to play overseas.


Correct. And they won't give him first team minutes either which will stall his development as happened with others. If he is in the academy for the next few years then the homegrown deal is just flat out a bad deal.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if this kid will now receive the baseline MLS pro Salary of 80k per year? All while finishing online High School and practicing with the 1st team, i.e. way better development and coaching over the academy...it seems like this is a no brainer for this family.


The problem is that he needs game time against men, but there is no way he is going to get minutes with the first team. So I assume he'll get loaned out to USL teams like that other kid, and have the USL team develop him.


This part doesn't seem that bad. I'm with the posts questioning/condemning the quality of DCU, but if this is the result for this kid, then good for him. No?


The smarter move would have been to turn down the 4 year homegrown contract and try out for USL teams for a 2 year contract. At the end of the 2 years when he's 17, tryout overseas with no one owning your rights. But now, DCU has him for 4 years and will charge stupid money if any euro club wants him, essentially blocking his move to play overseas.


I don’t know his families dynamics to gauge whether it is a good deal for them or not but I would prefer this option for my kid and the ability to go somewhere overseas with a track record of development.

It is really appealing to win the IG headlines now which they did but development to a slow, arduous process full of delayed gratification. I only hope they know what they are doing.
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