DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

Pay to play is also killing the game in addition to greedy private trainers that are running kids through cones and making IG posts with no intention of making the kids better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCU must be trolling this feed to shut down the critics. Another homegrown pro player named: Oscar Avilez (15 yr old)

How does that work? They cut ties with Loudoun, they don't have a second team, and he's definitely not playing with the first team. Where do signed kids play? Do they just get loaned out to USL teams to develop?

It doesn't work. Why homegrown signings at DCU are completely driven by PR motives and not player advancement. Why would anyone sign a homegrown deal with DCU to not play on the first team, no second team available, no real loan options available because the players aren't ready for professional football coming from the academy at that age AND because you signed a pro deal you've taken away college scholarships??? It's really such a bad move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:alexandria was locked down against this kid

Chill Alexandria dad. He was playing against your U19 squad.

Yeah, that is exactly the point. Alexandria is a pay to play, local club that put the clamps on this kid in a very recent game (so game sample is not old) but we are to believe that this kid is a PROFESSIONAL player ready to compete with men in the MLS???? You drop almost any pro player into a u19 Alexandria game and they are dominating at their position. I mean DOMINATING. It's absolutely absurd what DCU is doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:congratulation to the kid slap in the face to current academy players, i know a dozen players who are...you can finish the sentence

To other players in the academy, this may feel like a slap in the face. I can understand that. Especially the players on the older u19 team who are legitimately better than this kid, TODAY. And there are MANY of them that are better than him at their respective positions. And everyone is probably asking so, why does this happen, if there are kids in the academy that are better than him? The simple answer is DCU has to homegrown much younger players because they have no pathway to the first team for a player that is arguably already close to that level. So most of the players who are close to the level in the academy are like no way I'm going to homegrown at DCU, kill college scholarships and all other options outside of DCU when my chances to play first team are slim to none. And not to mention if you're u19, the expectation of pro minutes is much much higher than if you're 15. So a 15 year old DCU academy player is much easier to convince that not playing first team minutea is ok and normal and they will just have to develop and wait their turn. But the reality is that is bullsh#t when DCU has no pathway for him. DCU is having a harder time convincing u19 players of this especially given their track record with homegrown recently.

Is the kid probably the best 2010 they have? Yes for sure. I can buy that argument. But he is absolutely not a professional player, is not ready to be a pro and DCU just did a massive disservice to his career and tried to play it like they are doing something for him. It's disgusting in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:congratulation to the kid slap in the face to current academy players, i know a dozen players who are...you can finish the sentence

To other players in the academy, this may feel like a slap in the face. I can understand that. Especially the players on the older u19 team who are legitimately better than this kid, TODAY. And there are MANY of them that are better than him at their respective positions. And everyone is probably asking so, why does this happen, if there are kids in the academy that are better than him? The simple answer is DCU has to homegrown much younger players because they have no pathway to the first team for a player that is arguably already close to that level. So most of the players who are close to the level in the academy are like no way I'm going to homegrown at DCU, kill college scholarships and all other options outside of DCU when my chances to play first team are slim to none. And not to mention if you're u19, the expectation of pro minutes is much much higher than if you're 15. So a 15 year old DCU academy player is much easier to convince that not playing first team minutea is ok and normal and they will just have to develop and wait their turn. But the reality is that is bullsh#t when DCU has no pathway for him. DCU is having a harder time convincing u19 players of this especially given their track record with homegrown recently.

Is the kid probably the best 2010 they have? Yes for sure. I can buy that argument. But he is absolutely not a professional player, is not ready to be a pro and DCU just did a massive disservice to his career and tried to play it like they are doing something for him. It's disgusting in my opinion.

so much bitterness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:congratulation to the kid slap in the face to current academy players, i know a dozen players who are...you can finish the sentence

To other players in the academy, this may feel like a slap in the face. I can understand that. Especially the players on the older u19 team who are legitimately better than this kid, TODAY. And there are MANY of them that are better than him at their respective positions. And everyone is probably asking so, why does this happen, if there are kids in the academy that are better than him? The simple answer is DCU has to homegrown much younger players because they have no pathway to the first team for a player that is arguably already close to that level. So most of the players who are close to the level in the academy are like no way I'm going to homegrown at DCU, kill college scholarships and all other options outside of DCU when my chances to play first team are slim to none. And not to mention if you're u19, the expectation of pro minutes is much much higher than if you're 15. So a 15 year old DCU academy player is much easier to convince that not playing first team minutea is ok and normal and they will just have to develop and wait their turn. But the reality is that is bullsh#t when DCU has no pathway for him. DCU is having a harder time convincing u19 players of this especially given their track record with homegrown recently.

Is the kid probably the best 2010 they have? Yes for sure. I can buy that argument. But he is absolutely not a professional player, is not ready to be a pro and DCU just did a massive disservice to his career and tried to play it like they are doing something for him. It's disgusting in my opinion.

so much bitterness

yeah super bitter that my kid didn't get swindled into a homegrown deal that has no advantages for him as a player. 👍

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:congratulation to the kid slap in the face to current academy players, i know a dozen players who are...you can finish the sentence

To other players in the academy, this may feel like a slap in the face. I can understand that. Especially the players on the older u19 team who are legitimately better than this kid, TODAY. And there are MANY of them that are better than him at their respective positions. And everyone is probably asking so, why does this happen, if there are kids in the academy that are better than him? The simple answer is DCU has to homegrown much younger players because they have no pathway to the first team for a player that is arguably already close to that level. So most of the players who are close to the level in the academy are like no way I'm going to homegrown at DCU, kill college scholarships and all other options outside of DCU when my chances to play first team are slim to none. And not to mention if you're u19, the expectation of pro minutes is much much higher than if you're 15. So a 15 year old DCU academy player is much easier to convince that not playing first team minutea is ok and normal and they will just have to develop and wait their turn. But the reality is that is bullsh#t when DCU has no pathway for him. DCU is having a harder time convincing u19 players of this especially given their track record with homegrown recently.

Is the kid probably the best 2010 they have? Yes for sure. I can buy that argument. But he is absolutely not a professional player, is not ready to be a pro and DCU just did a massive disservice to his career and tried to play it like they are doing something for him. It's disgusting in my opinion.

so much bitterness

yeah super bitter that my kid didn't get swindled into a homegrown deal that has no advantages for him as a player. 👍

But…you are bitter that your kid didn’t get any deals at all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:congratulation to the kid slap in the face to current academy players, i know a dozen players who are...you can finish the sentence

To other players in the academy, this may feel like a slap in the face. I can understand that. Especially the players on the older u19 team who are legitimately better than this kid, TODAY. And there are MANY of them that are better than him at their respective positions. And everyone is probably asking so, why does this happen, if there are kids in the academy that are better than him? The simple answer is DCU has to homegrown much younger players because they have no pathway to the first team for a player that is arguably already close to that level. So most of the players who are close to the level in the academy are like no way I'm going to homegrown at DCU, kill college scholarships and all other options outside of DCU when my chances to play first team are slim to none. And not to mention if you're u19, the expectation of pro minutes is much much higher than if you're 15. So a 15 year old DCU academy player is much easier to convince that not playing first team minutea is ok and normal and they will just have to develop and wait their turn. But the reality is that is bullsh#t when DCU has no pathway for him. DCU is having a harder time convincing u19 players of this especially given their track record with homegrown recently.

Is the kid probably the best 2010 they have? Yes for sure. I can buy that argument. But he is absolutely not a professional player, is not ready to be a pro and DCU just did a massive disservice to his career and tried to play it like they are doing something for him. It's disgusting in my opinion.

so much bitterness

yeah super bitter that my kid didn't get swindled into a homegrown deal that has no advantages for him as a player. 👍

But…you are bitter that your kid didn’t get any deals at all!

Talk about things you know about. You don't know me or my situation. My kids are grown adults and I'm old. I post on this thread because what DCU is doing to the DMV talent pool is just wrong and I have witnessed it for many years and want other families to know about it and have information at their disposal. You can think whatever you want. I really don't care.

[Anonymous]

I'm not even sure DCU truly gets the best talent around, their scouting does not look stellar to me. From my son's club something like 5 to 7 players get invites to their roster and some of them are very good; a few are so and so, and 1 or 2 seem very subpar to me. My son's friends, both the selected and the not selected ones, talk about that and I see it too.

[Anonymous]

You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏

I overheard a player (not parent or coach or any other adult but a player) say that he wasn't even sure he would accept an offer if DCU offered. Not for the very valid and logical reasons laid out in this thread and others but because he doesn't think they are good enough and he would be better off there. lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏

I overheard a player (not parent or coach or any other adult but a player) say that he wasn't even sure he would accept an offer if DCU offered. Not for the very valid and logical reasons laid out in this thread and others but because he doesn't think they are good enough and he would be better off there. lol

Does this kid also give stock and retirement portfolio advice?

You should have told him, if you're actually as good as you think, going to DCU would give you the exposure at the professional academy level to be seen by all.
Then you can go anywhere.

If you have to be on a good team, then you need teammates to make you look good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏

Explain the "FIFA Expert" part of your resume so we can give you the respect and reverence you seek

Where were you internationally and involved directly in what capacities?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re not helping out DCU at all. I don’t envision you to be positive, optimistic or any positive trait that I want my kid around. The old man has been helpful.

I got a full academic ride to college.
I almost didn’t because I initially almost accepted a partial one. One of my teachers told to table the partial and use it as a marketing tool to loop in the full ride. I was just grateful for anything and I was uneducated at the time but could have lost so much and it has been a great life lesson.

I had that same feelings when my kid was first recruited from MLS Next/ECNL teams and then academies. That is what brought me to these pages. What’s in it for them that they are giving us this? Free training? At what cost? I can afford the training so I can ask deeper questions. While we have to deal with people like you here in DCUM and this thread, I knew NOTHING about developmental systems, ownership and transfer rights, FIFA rules, that lack of a 2nd team at DCU, etc. until the old man and others like the FIFA expert chimed in on this thread guided me in the direction to do additional research.

From what I have gathered, MLS knows how to control the labor market, pure and simple. Going pro here does not appear what it seems from my research and DCU appears to be the worst at that. I already chimed in, I am happy for this new signing and I hope he beats the system like Yow and Parades.

I would love to hear the pro-DCU arguments if there are any though. If you have any ounce of emotional intelligence, you can tell from my tone that I am not bitter. It’s a conversation. I appreciate being educated on the options for my kid and informing other parents of their options. If DCU is the best option for your kid, so be it. It is not a successful argument that just because DCU wants me, I need to bend the knee and if they don’t want me, I should be bitter. I would never allow my child to allow any person or organization to carry that much value in their heads.

I hope this helps frame DCU for future parents who stumble upon this thread like I did looking for answers to guide your child. The original poster will execute a familiar playbook attacking me but as long as the talent pool keeping getting diluted locally and the first team struggles long enough, we can “Daniel Snyder” current ownership with a fat check and get someone in that knows what they are doing.

Old man here..for the record I am also the FIFA expert and have written many posts here and elsewhere about the transfer rules and the homegrown rules. 👍I've been around the youth game domestically and internationally for over 40 years. Very little someone is going to tell me that I don't know about how this sport works in this country. Even less someone is going to tell me about DCU as I have been following the team and the academy since they both started.

I'm so glad you found this information helpful to you. And your post is appreciated and valid. Knowledge is power especially in youth soccer in America. Good luck to you and all the best. 🙏

Explain the "FIFA Expert" part of your resume so we can give you the respect and reverence you seek

Where were you internationally and involved directly in what capacities?

I owe you nothing and have nothing to prove to you. The beauty of being comfortable in your place in life. Believe what you want to believe. It doesn't matter to me. I don't seek reverence or respect. I only give information to those that want it.

For people like you, I take amusement in watching you scramble to keep up with me and how your shallow existence crumbles every time someone says DCU sucks. Because you want so badly for it to be good. Keep trying. You will never match my knowledge and you will never be able to convince anyone that DCU is a good place. But I've convinced A LOT of people that DCU is a trash bin over many many months and pages on this forum of making your words look dumb. ✌️