ECNL moving to school year not calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting… SD Surf posted on their instagram their tryout dates and times and age groups…still split up by Calenday Year…..

Well, it isn't a thing until its a thing.

Says tryouts are first week of December.
Right after the “vote”.

Will be interesting how this plays out.

If it changes, they'll just adjust which kids show up for which times. Probably why they're voting when they are - so clubs that have earlier tryouts for the following year can adjuster accordingly.

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Or nothings changing lol…

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I’ve already seen clubs post tryout info as 2012/7th graders for December. It’s definitely happening.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve already seen clubs post tryout info as 2012/7th graders for December. It’s definitely happening.

Which clubs?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve already seen clubs post tryout info as 2012/7th graders for December. It’s definitely happening.

Come on! Post a link.
Liar

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Guys, don't you think they're posting tryout info for December in anticipation of the change to SY AND an immediate implementation timeframe of Jan 1? If and when US Soccer announces the change to SY won't be effective until next Fall, these December tryouts will disappear from the calendar and pop up again at their regularly-schedule date in the Spring.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve already seen clubs post tryout info as 2012/7th graders for December. It’s definitely happening.

Come on! Post a link.
Liar

It was an ad on Instagram if it comes up again I’ll write down the info. But was a Surf club. Which surf I don’t remember?

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, don't you think they're posting tryout info for December in anticipation of the change to SY AND an immediate implementation timeframe of Jan 1? If and when US Soccer announces the change to SY won't be effective until next Fall, these December tryouts will disappear from the calendar and pop up again at their regularly-schedule date in the Spring.

Wrong! Clubs will just recruit for both things at once and say if you join now we will let you practice with this team but you can join this team next fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like things are going quiet. Message is out to the clubs don't say a word as it will create a storm of calls and emails. Wait for it to be announced.

It's gone quiet because there isn't a unanimous decision. Leagues dont know what's going to happen so they're all waiting for some kind of compelling

event to decide on next steps.

🤣🤣🤣 is that what you keep telling yourself. There is literally nothing to say at this point until the vote.

There doesn't need to be a unanimous decision so nobody is waiting for one. Play stupid with your clubs players so they don't look to jump while recruiting outside Aug-Dec seems about right for youth soccer.

A unanimous decision would be ideal for the soccer in this country. Last thing we need is a more fractured landscape. A BY pipeline and a separate SY pipeline all trying to funnel in the same place.

Knowing priorities in the different organizations, I am sure they will go with a fractured pipeline because it keeps their wallets and shareholders happy. Damn the kids, damn the sports we are getting rich boys!

This fractured system seems needed for youth soccer to finally address RAE in some way.

If you mean more options between BY/SY I agree. But I don’t think clubs want to deal with that. MLSN teams could just play their own showcases and expand their biobanding from 3 kids to 5 and they will basically be in compliance.

MLSN and EA will stay together, either BY or SY. Considering summer tournaments are big deals to players and their families and also important revenue sources for clubs, I bet MLSN clubs will not take such a risk of losing players and will go with the majority, which will be SY. ECNL, with its several alliances, has strong arms to push this agenda forward.

You're not listening to what others are saying.

MLSN doesn't need to switch to SY. They can stay BY and still enter in tournaments and do well.

It truly doesn't matter.

Wait after 11/22. MLSN/EA will change to align. Being forced to change is always better than staying in BY and losing revenue.

You realize that MLS basically runs US Soccer? People have complained about it for years. US Soccer isn't going to force MLS to do anything they don't want to do.

As I said before MLS can stay BY and still enter into SY tournaments. There's nothings they can't do if they choose to stay BY. The only thing that wouldn't work is if a MLSN club chose to run a tournament and wanted to invite SY clubs. But that's easy to address. You just call it a BY tournament with 18 exceptions for Aug 1 to Dec 31 players.

Take off your ECNL blinders every once in a while.

Staying BY alone will not bring any financial advantage. MLSN and EA will be forced (because of potential revenue loss) to follow the trend after 11/22.

MLSN will not lose any revenue if they stay BY. Boys club soccer doesn't function like girls club soccer

That’s right- they don’t worry about revenue because they are just fine. That’s why DA still exists….oh wait. They shut that down because they couldn’t afford to run it anymore Hmmm…me thinks somebody has their head in the sand if they think reputation leads to safety. Just ask all those DA players who were left scrambling 3 years ago…

No smart guy. It has nothing to do with DA.

On the boys side there's much more competition for pro, semi pro, college, everything. What this means is if you want to play at a higher level you need to play in MLS Next as a youth because it's where all the recruiters will be looking for talent.

Also most MLSN players are encouraged to play up and if there's a player MLS Clubs think will develop at a later date they can play down. Basically everything ECNL wants to do changing from BY to SY is already available in MLSN.

Also also there's money and contracts with boys at levels that don't exist on the girls side. In the end it just doesn't matter if MLSN stays BY. Players will gravitate to where the highest levels of play and visability reside. (Ie not ECNL)

MLSN does not equal to MLS Academy. Have played both MLSN and ECNL in Socal, I will say most MLSN teams are average ECNL teams. I will move my kid from MLSN to ECNL after the change.

At some point MLSN will go out the window just like DA- it’s too much effort and $ and complexity for the MLs clubs with too little return. Everybody though DA was invincible and then…

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting… SD Surf posted on their instagram their tryout dates and times and age groups…still split up by Calenday Year…..

The only thing SD Surf posted was 2017-2020 boys tryouts.

https://www.instagram.com/surfsoccerclub/p/DB_3zPySJVd/?hl=en&img_index=1

This is happening because SD Surf isn't in MLSN and they're desperate for players.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting… SD Surf posted on their instagram their tryout dates and times and age groups…still split up by Calenday Year…..

The only thing SD Surf posted was 2017-2020 boys tryouts.

https://www.instagram.com/surfsoccerclub/p/DB_3zPySJVd/?hl=en&img_index=1

This is happening because SD Surf isn't in MLSN and they're desperate for players.

They can go MLSN and get the girls GA )

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting… SD Surf posted on their instagram their tryout dates and times and age groups…still split up by Calenday Year…..

The only thing SD Surf posted was 2017-2020 boys tryouts.

https://www.instagram.com/surfsoccerclub/p/DB_3zPySJVd/?hl=en&img_index=1

This is happening because SD Surf isn't in MLSN and they're desperate for players.

After this change, SD Surf will get several high-quality Q3/Q4 players from MLSN teams. Some parents said it would happen as soon as the spring season.

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On US Soccer website

U.S. Soccer, in collaboration with the Board of Directors’ Technical Development Committee, is currently conducting a formal survey with members, leagues, and clubs. We will present the findings and recommended path forward at the Board of Directors meeting on November 22. U.S. Soccer plans to communicate the path forward to the ecosystem by the end of the year.

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Anonymous wrote:On US Soccer website

U.S. Soccer, in collaboration with the Board of Directors’ Technical Development Committee, is currently conducting a formal survey with members, leagues, and clubs. We will present the findings and recommended path forward at the Board of Directors meeting on November 22. U.S. Soccer plans to communicate the path forward to the ecosystem by the end of the year.

Can you provide s link?

All I see is what US Cub Soccer has posted.
https://usclubsoccer.org/us-club-soccer-us-youth-soccer-ayso-statement-on-forthcoming-u-s-soccer-decision-regarding-age-group-formation-by-school-year-vs-calendar-year/

I could be wrong but I'm betting a parent got into the sauce and mixed up US Soccer and US Club Soccer websites.

[Anonymous]

No way they can implement this for January 1 - players signed a contract for the full year. The 2010 and 2011 teams are still in the middle of their seasons in January since they play each team in their league twice.