Consolidated VA Elections Thread

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

Yes, to this. I think it was much more bread-n-butter educational issues that motivated (or didn't motivate) NoVa voters. And Terry had to win big there. And now Democrats are going to respond to those concerns by calling everyone uneducated Karens, which wrong or right, is going to further drive the suburbs away. Ugh.

This. I know it’s next day bitterness, but the response that the swing voters who voted Youngkin are uneducated Karens is a terrible look. You will need these swing voters to come back to the Dems in 2022 and 2024, so what is insulting them accomplishing?

So the key to winning elections is to coddle voters and just tell them what they want to hear?

Are you kidding?? Yes. I see we have a very succinct illustration of why Democrats always shoot themselves in the foot.

They just don’t get it. It’s not coddling to refrain from labeling every person who agrees with some Republican ideas as a racist or uneducated.

But there definitely seems to be a moral outrage when the mirror is turned. It’s one of the biggest complaints in this thread. Which seems, well, childish.

Keep on keepin on I guess and see where the current attitude of the Democratic Party gets you. You cannot say you weren’t warned, so don’t act shocked when there’s a Republican president in 2024. What each party is fighting for is the people in the middle, who don’t care about AOC and her squad and think Trump is repugnant, we would like a return to centrist political leadership, center right or center left it really doesn’t matter as long as these ridiculous culture wars stop. I wish to God the Republican Party could get out of their own way and nominate a Larry Hogan as their presidential candidate, someone like him would cruise to victory in a national election if the Democrats don’t pull their heads out of their asses and fix their message.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.

There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to bring down food inflation is to stop the monthly child tax credits and pull back expanded SNAP benefits. Less money chasing the same product means a lower price. I'm not sure the rural R voters would appreciate that though.

It may lower food prices, but low-income families will have less money to buy food, so how does that help them?

I don’t think it will even lower food prices. Once prices start going up, they don’t really appreciably come back down. Look at gas prices since 2008 vs. the price of oil.

I can’t find the original comment about ending child tax credit. So I’ll put this here. I’ve been working in person in the service industry most of the pandemic but I had to reduce my hours greatly. When school opened up again and the tax credit became available we were able to afford after care. This is the only reason I can work semi full time hours right now. Because we made less money last year there was no cushion for child care. The credit pays half of what we need and that’s an enormous help. I do typically get a credit at the end of the year but having a monthly installment makes so much more sense for our family. If you are a family that needs it, it’s a life saver.

+1 The stimulus money and the tax credit are helping us pay for our child's therapies without going into debt. Therapy we weren't able to get through the public school system because they refused to do evaluations in 2020.

Yeah. Take that up with Democrats, and the teachers union who fought hard to keep kids out of school last year.

If you lived in a Red state, your kid likely would have attended in-person school.

You missed a big chunk of that response. It’s definitely a nuanced issue. We need support from schools and many still struggle with enough money to provide care. Will a red state help fund the needed therapy?

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IMO they shot themselves in the foot by closing school. What an impact they made on so many people day in and day out for a year. I certainly hope it is a case study for the future.

They made informed, reasonable decisions based on the info we had and resources available. You think we have staffing issues now? Imagine if you forced teachers in last fall before the vaccine and as numbers were skyrocketing.

Our schools (local, not state) didn’t just say F it and send kids back in.

Sorry that pisses you off so much that you had to vote for a Trump Republican.

I voted D like I always do but your attitude is exactly why the Rs won and I’ve been saying that.
I also remember that Northam allowed schools to open hybrid in August 2020 and Fairfax had some of the best corona numbers in the state - not the worst - such that we should have considered being more conservative than he allowed with school reopening. And I also didn’t forget that the Dept of Health approved of the hybrid plan as well.

So you’re pissed at FCPS?

I am just telling you where the people are so the Ds don’t miss the mark next time.

Most of the parents don't remember the nuance of what the governor approved vs. what happened. All they saw is that public schools weren't open for most of 2020-2021, while private schools did open full time.

I agree.

Agree too (Dem voter). This wasn’t the only issue, but one of the big ones. I fear my party is getting a set of alternative facts (like all the PPs set on arguing that Nova schools were opening just as early as the rest of the country??) Voting Youngkin may have been a stupid way to “punish” school boards, but it still was a strong motivation IMHO.

+1 the “CRT” stuff wasn’t important to NoVa voters (it was just a bone for the R base in the rest of the state), but the closures and the perception that the curriculum was being “dumbed down” by the Democrats in the state DoE WAS important here. All it takes is a few percentage points of people who usually vote D switching to the other side.

And no, NoVa schools didn’t open at the same time as other schools. Anyone with functioning eyes and access to social media could have seen that. The closures killed Democrats and people took out their frustrations on the first election they could.

Yes, to this. I think it was much more bread-n-butter educational issues that motivated (or didn't motivate) NoVa voters. And Terry had to win big there. And now Democrats are going to respond to those concerns by calling everyone uneducated Karens, which wrong or right, is going to further drive the suburbs away. Ugh.

This. I know it’s next day bitterness, but the response that the swing voters who voted Youngkin are uneducated Karens is a terrible look. You will need these swing voters to come back to the Dems in 2022 and 2024, so what is insulting them accomplishing?

So the key to winning elections is to coddle voters and just tell them what they want to hear?

Are you kidding?? Yes. I see we have a very succinct illustration of why Democrats always shoot themselves in the foot.

They just don’t get it. It’s not coddling to refrain from labeling every person who agrees with some Republican ideas as a racist or uneducated.

But there definitely seems to be a moral outrage when the mirror is turned. It’s one of the biggest complaints in this thread. Which seems, well, childish.

Keep on keepin on I guess and see where the current attitude of the Democratic Party gets you. You cannot say you weren’t warned, so don’t act shocked when there’s a Republican president in 2024. What each party is fighting for is the people in the middle, who don’t care about AOC and her squad and think Trump is repugnant, we would like a return to centrist political leadership, center right or center left it really doesn’t matter as long as these ridiculous culture wars stop. I wish to God the Republican Party could get out of their own way and nominate a Larry Hogan as their presidential candidate, someone like him would cruise to victory in a national election if the Democrats don’t pull their heads out of their asses and fix their message.

Take a break. You’re all hopped up.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

Biden is senile and his handlers are far left, so he is just going to double down on whatever they put on his teleprompter.

+1 He had been a moderate his whole life but he doesn’t have the oomph anymore. He won BECAUSE he was a moderate. The country was not trying to vote in the progressive caucus.

I really don't like all the insults calling Biden senile but I am definitely disappointed. I'm a Never Trumper who voted for him to get rid of Trump and because he seemed like a down to earth, sensible moderate. After voting D for the last few elections, I voted R this year because things have just gone too far left.

It is not an insult. It is factual to point out that Biden is senile and is just a puppet.

I feel sorry for the guy. Shame on his family for letting him be used like this.

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to bring down food inflation is to stop the monthly child tax credits and pull back expanded SNAP benefits. Less money chasing the same product means a lower price. I'm not sure the rural R voters would appreciate that though.

It may lower food prices, but low-income families will have less money to buy food, so how does that help them?

I don’t think it will even lower food prices. Once prices start going up, they don’t really appreciably come back down. Look at gas prices since 2008 vs. the price of oil.

I can’t find the original comment about ending child tax credit. So I’ll put this here. I’ve been working in person in the service industry most of the pandemic but I had to reduce my hours greatly. When school opened up again and the tax credit became available we were able to afford after care. This is the only reason I can work semi full time hours right now. Because we made less money last year there was no cushion for child care. The credit pays half of what we need and that’s an enormous help. I do typically get a credit at the end of the year but having a monthly installment makes so much more sense for our family. If you are a family that needs it, it’s a life saver.

+1 The stimulus money and the tax credit are helping us pay for our child's therapies without going into debt. Therapy we weren't able to get through the public school system because they refused to do evaluations in 2020.

Yeah. Take that up with Democrats, and the teachers union who fought hard to keep kids out of school last year.

If you lived in a Red state, your kid likely would have attended in-person school.

I voted straight ticket R this election but all the local R candidates lost.

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Anonymous wrote:Another reason to not live in VA, poor N VA is stuck with Kentucky politics.

While you are stuck with Kentucky population

DP ? MD has a moderate, Trump hating R governor. VA has a Trump lover for a governor.

The "Kentucky" population is tiny in MD and wants to join WVA. VA has a Trump lover leading the state, so it appears that there are more "Kentucky population" in VA than MD.

Well there are larger pockets of Kentucky population in Baltimore. That’s why the Western counties want to leave. Annapolis is trying to shift Baltimore to Western Maryland.

? not doubting that there are those in MD, but it seems VA has even more. Hence why Youngkin won. Also, I guess your definition of KY population is "black people"?

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.

There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress

DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:The easiest way to bring down food inflation is to stop the monthly child tax credits and pull back expanded SNAP benefits. Less money chasing the same product means a lower price. I'm not sure the rural R voters would appreciate that though.

It may lower food prices, but low-income families will have less money to buy food, so how does that help them?

So which problem do you want to solve? Do you want to lower food prices or do you want to make sure families and children eat enough?

Lower prices for goods that don’t contribute to the obesity problem

Ok great! Like public programs to get more veggies and fresh foods into ALL neighborhoods. Access to affordable groceries and teaching nutrition. Assistance in meal distribution and childcare so parents don’t have to work multiple jobs and can be home to cook said meals. Perfect. What else?

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.

There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress

DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.

The way he did it was a disaster, though.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.

There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress

DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.

He walked back his statement on Taiwan. Called it “strategic ambiguity” or some shit, I call it bullshitting. And he pulled out of Afghanistan the worst way possible. It was always going to be bad but this was BAD.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember this: Terry was up by double digits this summer. All he and the Dems had to do to win this was not be crazy.

And they couldn't even manage that.

SMH.

Honestly, over the last few weeks, they had to have had a conversation that went something like:

"Looks like we're losing serious ground on parents of K-12 aged children. School closures and education could be the reason we lose. What should we do?"

"How about we bring in Randi Weingarten to help?"

"Great idea!"

She was the kiss of the death; I knew he would lose the minute she shared a stage with Terry. She might be the second most hated person in politics right now

Yes, along with Stacy Abrams, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris... you could not have asked for a worse supporting line-up.

Unbelievable. I hope the 23-year-olds running Terry's campaign recognize this, but I really doubt it.

what's wrong with Abrams? Serious question. I thought people loved her for her get out the vote in GA.

She is a loser. Like Jimmy Carter she is rebuilding her image with the Georgia GOTV, but she needs more redemption. Maybe her next bodice ripper book will help.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden will get his bills passed, 5-11 kids will get vaxxed, people will be happy and Biden’s approval numbers will soar. Talk of GOP retaking the House in 2022 is wishful thinking. Calm down, folks.

You still don't get it, do you?

Get what? Biden will now have an excuse to move back to the cevter, which is where he wanted to be anywhere. Silver lining for him here.

There’s no evidence he wanted to be in the center. The minute he walked in the door he handed control of the agenda over to the left and progressives.

There is no evidence that he wants to be anywhere. He's accomplished precisely nothing, which in and of itself is an accomplishment for a president whose party controls both chambers of congress

DP. He pulled us out of Afghanistan, the first president to do so. And he's told everyone that we will defend Taiwan, also the first president to do so.

I'm not sure democrats are wise to run on the Afghanistan withdrawal as a signature accomplishment, and defending Taiwan is an empty promise and everyone knows it. Taiwan is a short flight from multiple Chinese airfields and in range of god knows how many missile batteries. If they invade all any president could do is strongly protest at the UN.

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Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake about it: This election is all about defeating CRR. Next up is the trans agenda.

Parents have had enough

Of what, exactly?

My dc goes to school with kids from all different backgrounds. There is a transgendered kiddo in dc's class, too. The goal for the community (it is a public school) is for *each kid* to feel supported, loved and celebrated.

Between this election and the screamers in Loudon County, I'd never, ever live in Va. It seems impossible there to get past the bumper stickers and just see people as neighbors with whom you can work together to support each kid.

My goal for my kid in school is to be educated. You know, like Reading, Math and Science.

Well your kid can hire her kid as their nanny in the future.

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57 percent of white women supported Youngkin. You’re all suckers.