ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

That isn't a what should happen that is what is happening. The rules are set. One yahoo is trying to invent a rule that doesn't exist, nobody knows about and call everyone who does differently a cheater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

No it's SY with an 8/1-7/31 eligibility window with a rule that says players must play with their own grade. The differnce between this version of SY and GY is holdbacks arent allowed. You get the best of both worlds. Players are aligned 99% by grade and holdbacks are allowed to play down. This maximizes club profits and makes recruiters happy.

That is GY. And it would take leagues 2-3-4 years to work with the federation to define and police what a grade is and what a school is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard. August plays under the Aug1-jul31 cutoff, which is likely their grade for most of the country, or they can play up (like anyone else).

Everyone agrees.

The issue is some Aug birthday player parents want to choose to play down a grade. The parent logic is my Aug birthday kid can be the youngest on a team with players their grade. Or they can be the oldest on a team with players a grade younger.

With littles it doesnt matter people only care about wins. With olders it 1000% matters because playing down a grade makes players unrecruitable for college.

In the end it's better to not allow playing down a grade. Because it solves issues before they become issues.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

The only person that doesnt see the value of SY with a rule saying players must play with their grade is you.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So they’ll just have to deal like they do now with BY and like they did pre 2017. A cutoff is a cutoff. SY is not a panacea for recruitment ease; and wasn’t intended to be. Yall need to get over this.[/quote]
Yall need to invest in a calendar and learn to read it. Nobody wants a grade older Aug birthday players playing down on their kids team.[/quote]Parents don't pick teams, you don't like it? Leave. But you won't.[/quote]
When you get older you'll discover that team managers and parents have influence with coaches over players on their team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard. August plays under the Aug1-jul31 cutoff, which is likely their grade for most of the country, or they can play up (like anyone else).

Everyone agrees.

The issue is some Aug birthday player parents want to choose to play down a grade. The parent logic is my Aug birthday kid can be the youngest on a team with players their grade. Or they can be the oldest on a team with players a grade younger.

With littles it doesnt matter people only care about wins. With olders it 1000% matters because playing down a grade makes players unrecruitable for college.

In the end it's better to not allow playing down a grade. Because it solves issues before they become issues.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

The only person that doesnt see the value of SY with a rule saying players must play with their grade is you.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

You like to make up straw man arguements. My kid gets no benefit or advantage. I just dont like parents playing their kid down against younger players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

No it's SY with an 8/1-7/31 eligibility window with a rule that says players must play with their own grade. The differnce between this version of SY and GY is holdbacks arent allowed. You get the best of both worlds. Players are aligned 99% by grade and holdbacks are allowed to play down. This maximizes club profits and makes recruiters happy.

That is GY. And it would take leagues 2-3-4 years to work with the federation to define and police what a grade is and what a school is.

It's not GY because older players arent allowed to play down.

You dont even need to enforce the rule saying players must play with with their grade team. Parents and coaches will do it for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard. August plays under the Aug1-jul31 cutoff, which is likely their grade for most of the country, or they can play up (like anyone else).

Everyone agrees.

The issue is some Aug birthday player parents want to choose to play down a grade. The parent logic is my Aug birthday kid can be the youngest on a team with players their grade. Or they can be the oldest on a team with players a grade younger.

With littles it doesnt matter people only care about wins. With olders it 1000% matters because playing down a grade makes players unrecruitable for college.

In the end it's better to not allow playing down a grade. Because it solves issues before they become issues.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

The only person that doesnt see the value of SY with a rule saying players must play with their grade is you.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

You like to make up straw man arguements. My kid gets no benefit or advantage. I just dont like parents playing their kid down against younger players.

That is the issue. Thinking what you like and don't like matters. It doesn't. They made the rules, your Sept DD will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

That isn't a what should happen that is what is happening. The rules are set. One yahoo is trying to invent a rule that doesn't exist, nobody knows about and call everyone who does differently a cheater.

You have no idea what the different Leagues small print related to SY will include. The only thing thats been announced is a change from BY to SY 8/1-7/31

Stop acting like a know it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

That isn't a what should happen that is what is happening. The rules are set. One yahoo is trying to invent a rule that doesn't exist, nobody knows about and call everyone who does differently a cheater.

You have no idea what the different Leagues small print related to SY will include. The only thing thats been announced is a change from BY to SY 8/1-7/31

Stop acting like a know it all.

Show where the federation is allowing leagues to make rules based on grade. And FYI, good luck with grades being fluid and online school and homeschool and kids grading HSc in 3 years.

July parents don't want their kids being the youngest. You should take the win with your girl being the 2nd oldest month and move on. If she can't beat that August girl, she can find a new team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard. August plays under the Aug1-jul31 cutoff, which is likely their grade for most of the country, or they can play up (like anyone else).

Everyone agrees.

The issue is some Aug birthday player parents want to choose to play down a grade. The parent logic is my Aug birthday kid can be the youngest on a team with players their grade. Or they can be the oldest on a team with players a grade younger.

With littles it doesnt matter people only care about wins. With olders it 1000% matters because playing down a grade makes players unrecruitable for college.

In the end it's better to not allow playing down a grade. Because it solves issues before they become issues.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

The only person that doesnt see the value of SY with a rule saying players must play with their grade is you.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

You like to make up straw man arguements. My kid gets no benefit or advantage. I just dont like parents playing their kid down against younger players.

That is the issue. Thinking what you like and don't like matters. It doesn't. They made the rules, your Sept DD will be fine.

The GA club person said the team managers were concerned about the exact same things I've been saying that they would be for over a year. You obviously have little experience working with larger groups and olders teams.

This same situation will happen at all the differnet clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

That isn't a what should happen that is what is happening. The rules are set. One yahoo is trying to invent a rule that doesn't exist, nobody knows about and call everyone who does differently a cheater.

You have no idea what the different Leagues small print related to SY will include. The only thing thats been announced is a change from BY to SY 8/1-7/31

Stop acting like a know it all.

Show where the federation is allowing leagues to make rules based on grade. And FYI, good luck with grades being fluid and online school and homeschool and kids grading HSc in 3 years.

July parents don't want their kids being the youngest. You should take the win with your girl being the 2nd oldest month and move on. If she can't beat that August girl, she can find a new team.

Easily solved. Leagues just implement a rule that all players must play on a team that is predominantly their age in school. All the issues related to playing down a grade go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

That isn't a what should happen that is what is happening. The rules are set. One yahoo is trying to invent a rule that doesn't exist, nobody knows about and call everyone who does differently a cheater.

You have no idea what the different Leagues small print related to SY will include. The only thing thats been announced is a change from BY to SY 8/1-7/31

Stop acting like a know it all.

Show where the federation is allowing leagues to make rules based on grade. And FYI, good luck with grades being fluid and online school and homeschool and kids grading HSc in 3 years.

July parents don't want their kids being the youngest. You should take the win with your girl being the 2nd oldest month and move on. If she can't beat that August girl, she can find a new team.

Easily solved. Leagues just implement a rule that all players must play on a team that is predominantly their age in school. All the issues related to playing down a grade go away.

How do you define grade or school? What documents define this? Why would the federation allow leagues to create GY rules?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Simple Quick fix for August kids:

Whats your Grade?

Do you want to play in College?

If they don't want to play in college they don't need to play in top club leagues.

If they do want to play in college they need to align with there grade.... MLSN, NL, RL, NPL, Select, Rec or whatever team they can make.

Another way to address this is for leagues to implement a rule that says "When given the option players must play on the team that's predominately their grade in school". Do this and all issues go away.

That gets us on the path to an eventual grad year method. Which we should all be against.

What should happen is a 12 month window and players play their age group or play up based on their skill level and what the player and parents think is best for them.

That isn't a what should happen that is what is happening. The rules are set. One yahoo is trying to invent a rule that doesn't exist, nobody knows about and call everyone who does differently a cheater.

You have no idea what the different Leagues small print related to SY will include. The only thing thats been announced is a change from BY to SY 8/1-7/31

Stop acting like a know it all.

Show where the federation is allowing leagues to make rules based on grade. And FYI, good luck with grades being fluid and online school and homeschool and kids grading HSc in 3 years.

July parents don't want their kids being the youngest. You should take the win with your girl being the 2nd oldest month and move on. If she can't beat that August girl, she can find a new team.

Easily solved. Leagues just implement a rule that all players must play on a team that is predominantly their age in school. All the issues related to playing down a grade go away.

How do you define grade or school? What documents define this? Why would the federation allow leagues to create GY rules?

And what about foreign kids coming to the U.S.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard. August plays under the Aug1-jul31 cutoff, which is likely their grade for most of the country, or they can play up (like anyone else).

Everyone agrees.

The issue is some Aug birthday player parents want to choose to play down a grade. The parent logic is my Aug birthday kid can be the youngest on a team with players their grade. Or they can be the oldest on a team with players a grade younger.

With littles it doesnt matter people only care about wins. With olders it 1000% matters because playing down a grade makes players unrecruitable for college.

In the end it's better to not allow playing down a grade. Because it solves issues before they become issues.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

The only person that doesnt see the value of SY with a rule saying players must play with their grade is you.

No one agrees with you. All we agree on is that you call everyone cheaters and that you are lobbying for a version on grade alignment where your kid benefits.

You like to make up straw man arguements. My kid gets no benefit or advantage. I just dont like parents playing their kid down against younger players.

That is the issue. Thinking what you like and don't like matters. It doesn't. They made the rules, your Sept DD will be fine.

The GA club person said the team managers were concerned about the exact same things I've been saying that they would be for over a year. You obviously have little experience working with larger groups and olders teams.

This same situation will happen at all the differnet clubs.

You are the same person. Stop pitching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not hard. August plays under the Aug1-jul31 cutoff, which is likely their grade for most of the country, or they can play up (like anyone else).

Everyone agrees.

The issue is some Aug birthday player parents want to choose to play down a grade. The parent logic is my Aug birthday kid can be the youngest on a team with players their grade. Or they can be the oldest on a team with players a grade younger.

With littles it doesnt matter people only care about wins. With olders it 1000% matters because playing down a grade makes players unrecruitable for college.

In the end it's better to not allow playing down a grade. Because it solves issues before they become issues.

This is probably the dumbest take. I can’t tell if you’re being serious. I hope not.