Options for opposing Connecticut Avenue changes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Those 120 business owners who signed the petition against the bike lanes are incredibly brave to speak their minds publicly. They are the job creators. I will continue to support them.

Many of the signatures were from busboys and hostesses, not the owners. When contact, many owners said they never would have signed such a petition.

I see the names of many owners on that list. Super brave after the attack by those crazy ANC commissioners.

Really? Which owners and managers have said that?

Or is this just more smoke machine spin from lobbyist "Donbas Bob"? He'd be more credible if he just went back to the Trump campaign.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those 120 business owners who signed the petition against the bike lanes are incredibly brave to speak their minds publicly. They are the job creators. I will continue to support them.

Job creators. Lol. Rent-seeking leeches reliant on Main Streets and Corridor grants who cannot think or plan long term.

I’m not sure which studies are correct. But given the choice to believe the opinion of a long time business owner who lives in the neighborhood and has sent their kids to DCPS or believe the opinion of a newcomer 30-something ANC commissioner who is over educated and underemployed, I’m going to side with the business owner 100% of the time.

We know what the "progressive" Smart Growth ANC members really think of our local businesses. They let their (middle) fingers do the talking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just calling the emperor naked.
Learn the rules to cycling. I cycle and am appalled by a majority of cyclists’ ignorance or arrogance in not behaving according to the road rules. I’d also rather cycle in a designated narrow labs on each massive sidewalk so I’m not endangered by the cars or pretend-can-cycle MAMILs (middle aged men in lycra).
We drive DC so don’t want any further traffic calming on a road which is a major artery with tons of traffic lights that takes 45 minutes of gridlock to get anywhere in a rush hour before Matt Frumin further cocks up everything for everyone (Matt go deal with crime in Ward 3 and the national embarrassment you all have created for this city; a whole hunch if cars were broken into last night and contractors won’t come to your ward any longer).

You are pulling quite the GOP stain there., Frumin has been in office for a few weeks, and yet the crime issue is all his fault.

No I’m not. The crime is bad and people have tried to get an answer from the Council who won’t even use the word “crime”.
Matt’s had his 100 days no? And he wants to calm the traffic? How about calm the crime first.

Calming traffic is mitigating speeding. Speeding is a crime. Problem solved.

The most effective traffic calming is to see a very aggressive driver cuffed over the back of a police cruiser. That's deterrence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just calling the emperor naked.
Learn the rules to cycling. I cycle and am appalled by a majority of cyclists’ ignorance or arrogance in not behaving according to the road rules. I’d also rather cycle in a designated narrow labs on each massive sidewalk so I’m not endangered by the cars or pretend-can-cycle MAMILs (middle aged men in lycra).
We drive DC so don’t want any further traffic calming on a road which is a major artery with tons of traffic lights that takes 45 minutes of gridlock to get anywhere in a rush hour before Matt Frumin further cocks up everything for everyone (Matt go deal with crime in Ward 3 and the national embarrassment you all have created for this city; a whole hunch if cars were broken into last night and contractors won’t come to your ward any longer).

You are pulling quite the GOP stain there., Frumin has been in office for a few weeks, and yet the crime issue is all his fault.

No I’m not. The crime is bad and people have tried to get an answer from the Council who won’t even use the word “crime”.
Matt’s had his 100 days no? And he wants to calm the traffic? How about calm the crime first.

Calming traffic is mitigating speeding. Speeding is a crime. Problem solved.

The most effective traffic calming is to see a very aggressive driver cuffed over the back of a police cruiser. That's deterrence.

Nope, that's a one-time thing. The most effective traffic calming is there 24/7/365, and it's road design.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those 120 business owners who signed the petition against the bike lanes are incredibly brave to speak their minds publicly. They are the job creators. I will continue to support them.

Job creators. Lol. Rent-seeking leeches reliant on Main Streets and Corridor grants who cannot think or plan long term.

I’m not sure which studies are correct. But given the choice to believe the opinion of a long time business owner who lives in the neighborhood and has sent their kids to DCPS or believe the opinion of a newcomer 30-something ANC commissioner who is over educated and underemployed, I’m going to side with the business owner 100% of the time.

Rather than opinions, I will beleive the actual study that was done in Cleveland Park that showed that very few patrons in the commercial area aactually drive, with the overwhelming majority walking, biking and taking Metro bus/metrorail to Cleveland Park.

Maybe if the businesses up and down the avenue actually understood where their support came from, they would have a different opinion. I know that I have been supporting Connecticut Avenue businesses for decades and never try to park on Connecticut Avenue, either I walk/bike or when I do drive, I park on one of the side streets (not very often)

[Anonymous]

The business owners just don't want to have to take deliveries from the alley instead of having their delivery drivers block the entire right lane during rush hour every day (meaning that Conn Ave is functionally already only two lanes)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those 120 business owners who signed the petition against the bike lanes are incredibly brave to speak their minds publicly. They are the job creators. I will continue to support them.

Job creators. Lol. Rent-seeking leeches reliant on Main Streets and Corridor grants who cannot think or plan long term.

I’m not sure which studies are correct. But given the choice to believe the opinion of a long time business owner who lives in the neighborhood and has sent their kids to DCPS or believe the opinion of a newcomer 30-something ANC commissioner who is over educated and underemployed, I’m going to side with the business owner 100% of the time.

Underemployed with no chance of improvement

[Anonymous]

Again, it’s pure hubris to calm down traffic of the major city artery. There is plenty of room on each sidewalk for a sufficient bike trail. There is no need for anyone to lose out.

But go ahead and do it. Finish as you started by flipping off the residents. We’ll kick you out at the next election and reverse the changes to something like the above which is what every decent country capital would have done.

At the next election, everyone we know, hitherto a Dem it Dem-voting issues voters, will be voting against the incumbent across the board. With the only possible exception of Bowser (she’s not great but there is worse).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, it’s pure hubris to calm down traffic of the major city artery. There is plenty of room on each sidewalk for a sufficient bike trail. There is no need for anyone to lose out.

But go ahead and do it. Finish as you started by flipping off the residents. We’ll kick you out at the next election and reverse the changes to something like the above which is what every decent country capital would have done.

At the next election, everyone we know, hitherto a Dem it Dem-voting issues voters, will be voting against the incumbent across the board. With the only possible exception of Bowser (she’s not great but there is worse).

It's pure hubris to believe that the highest priority for Connecticut Avenue NW in Washington DC is maintaining all 6 current lanes for cars.

[Anonymous]

Of course it is. DC is a gridlocked city with traffic worse than LA before the pandemic and returning to it.

With the shots hailing, many of us have parked our bikes let alone gotten others to bike.

There’s a way to achieve both. Why are you so opposed to that? Use the word “colonialism” for extra points if you’re one of the local bird-flipping brigades.

[Anonymous]

What are you all ideological hobbits living in the shire, with nothing beyond the DC borders? People use Connecticut Ave to get in and out of this city to go to work and contribute to our artificially inflated economy. Be grateful

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is. DC is a gridlocked city with traffic worse than LA before the pandemic and returning to it.

With the shots hailing, many of us have parked our bikes let alone gotten others to bike.

There’s a way to achieve both. Why are you so opposed to that? Use the word “colonialism” for extra points if you’re one of the local bird-flipping brigades.

Who's opposed? 4 car lanes, 2 bike lanes, 2 sidewalks. I'm in full support. Actually, ideally, it would be 2 car lanes, 2 bus lanes, 2 bike lanes, 2 sidewalks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again, it’s pure hubris to calm down traffic of the major city artery. There is plenty of room on each sidewalk for a sufficient bike trail. There is no need for anyone to lose out.

But go ahead and do it. Finish as you started by flipping off the residents. We’ll kick you out at the next election and reverse the changes to something like the above which is what every decent country capital would have done.

At the next election, everyone we know, hitherto a Dem it Dem-voting issues voters, will be voting against the incumbent across the board. With the only possible exception of Bowser (she’s not great but there is worse).

yes, traffic calming is pure hubris! lol. those pedestrians, always wanting not to get killed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are you all ideological hobbits living in the shire, with nothing beyond the DC borders? People use Connecticut Ave to get in and out of this city to go to work and contribute to our artificially inflated economy. Be grateful

It would be great if the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes went all the way to the Purple Line station in Maryland.

But really, you're going to have to decide whether car priority on Connecticut Avenue is for people to drive in and out of the city without stopping at the stores along the way, or whether car priority on Connecticut Avenue is for stores (job creators!) on Connecticut Avenue to stay in business. One or the other. Not both. People driving past a store without stopping doesn't help the store stay in business.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are you all ideological hobbits living in the shire, with nothing beyond the DC borders? People use Connecticut Ave to get in and out of this city to go to work and contribute to our artificially inflated economy. Be grateful

It would be great if the Connecticut Avenue bike lanes went all the way to the Purple Line station in Maryland.

But really, you're going to have to decide whether car priority on Connecticut Avenue is for people to drive in and out of the city without stopping at the stores along the way, or whether car priority on Connecticut Avenue is for stores (job creators!) on Connecticut Avenue to stay in business. One or the other. Not both. People driving past a store without stopping doesn't help the store stay in business.

No I’m not is the point. Grow up (watched the vote yesterday, see what happens when you set ultimatums).

People will bike and drive past these stores the same. If you put a bike lane on the sidewalk and retain the lanes and the parking you will get more patronage of the stores.

This is a rare case where no zero sum is involved. But everyone knows Frumin can’t do the basic math.