What happened to this California family?

[Anonymous]

I think the only cause that makes sense is heat exhaustion. The husband stayed with the baby and dog and the mother went to go get to the car to get help and collapsed along the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All of them dying from toxic algae is unlikely. Too many variables in play. He’s a 6’2” man, so he’s going to be affected differently by algae than a toddler. It’s also shocking if they gave river water to a toddler. I can’t see them doing that.

No wildlife in the area was found dead from the toxic algae. The sheriff said this in the September Facebook live talk.

It makes no sense any of them would have drank river water except maybe the dog when they had a canteen on them that still had fresh water in it when they were found. For the algae to be a possibility it would have had to be airborne, which seems pretty far out there, especially with no impacted wildlife as you said.

Well, they haven't ruled it out, right?

And they said that their canteen had water in it, I didn't read anywhere that it said it was "fresh" water, only that they were still doing tests on it.

Also, they didn't have to necessarily give the baby the water, they could have passed away first and the baby died from neglect & exposure? 🤷‍♀️

[Anonymous]

Is drug intoxication from prescription drugs ruled out that were not illegally obtained but prescribed that could make sun sensitivity an issue ? Or Accidental overdose on some type of OTC medication to help with hiking in the heat?

[Anonymous]

13:29 again, some type of stamina booster?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is drug intoxication from prescription drugs ruled out that were not illegally obtained but prescribed that could make sun sensitivity an issue ? Or Accidental overdose on some type of OTC medication to help with hiking in the heat?

Can you name an OTC medication for hiking in the heat? It needs to be specially labeled for such. Not, "No-Doze keeps you awake!"

[Anonymous]

Some common medications such as anti-depressants, blood pressure, migraine meds and antihistamines make the body LESS able to regulate heat, a woman on one died recently on a family hike. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-your-medicine-might-make-you-more-susceptible-to-heat-stroke/

In 109+ degree temps the human or canine body is just not designed to discharge that much heat.

https://theconversation.com/how-heat-can-make-your-body-melt-down-from-the-inside-out-22042

[Anonymous]

Have they still not released the toxicology results?

Not that I think that’ll provide answers, but it’s something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide

Wait... there was one poster very early on who repeatedly kept posting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for it to be the toxic algae bloom in the water, because authorities ruled it out.

In fact, they were so adamant that the algae in the lake/creek water had been ruled out, that whenever anyone mentioned it as a possibility, they'd post really rude & aggressive things like "learn how to read, they already said it wasn't the water".

Based on this latest update, I don't see where the algae in the water has been ruled out though? 🤔

It would be the first recorded death from toxic algae.

Welcome to climate change. You all thought we would die by fire or flood, but it will be the bugs and fungus that crush us.

Look at that weird painful moth that is dominating all of Maine.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/maine-caterpillar-itchy-poisonous-browntail-moth/619376/

Also take a gander...

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-10-04/soaring-heat-is-killing-america-s-farm-workers?srnd=opinion&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=view&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-view&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

Uh... pot meet kettle.

You disparage everyone else for doing the same exact thing that you just did -- with the exception that other people didn't ramble on & on in a sanctimonious tirade, just to then come up with their own "speculating" theory.

You're ridiculous.

It wasn’t sanctimonious. I’m disparaging the people who are claiming the wife killed the family because she had mental health issues and using the fact that she didn’t post on Instagram for months so she must not have liked them/being a mom as the evidence for their theory. That’s ridiculous and it perpetuates stereotyping everyone who struggles with mental health which is already a problem. Their speculations are based on baseless assumptions and cruel stereotypical judgment. My speculation is supported by facts - re: how lightning works. By “Webslueths”, I wasn’t talking about general people who take interest in true crime - I was referring to the actual website: Webslueths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

Uh... pot meet kettle.

You disparage everyone else for doing the same exact thing that you just did -- with the exception that other people didn't ramble on & on in a sanctimonious tirade, just to then come up with their own "speculating" theory.

You're ridiculous.

It wasn’t sanctimonious. I’m disparaging the people who are claiming the wife killed the family because she had mental health issues and using the fact that she didn’t post on Instagram for months so she must not have liked them/being a mom as the evidence for their theory. That’s ridiculous and it perpetuates stereotyping everyone who struggles with mental health which is already a problem. Their speculations are based on baseless assumptions and cruel stereotypical judgment. My speculation is supported by facts - re: how lightning works. By “Webslueths”, I wasn’t talking about general people who take interest in true crime - I was referring to the actual website: Webslueths.

I agree with you that posters we’re getting carried away theorizing about how and why Ellen killed her family. Cruel, misogynistic, and racist assumptions based on fantasy. Thankfully, suicide (in most recent update) and murder (back in August update) were ruled out. As was lightning (September update).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this has been shared yet. Mariposa police posted an update a few days ago.

Gerrish / Chung Death Investigation Update

The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office continues to investigate the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Detectives are working closely with toxicologist, environmental specialist, the FBI and other specialists.

“We respect and understand the need for information and details regarding this case. Our current priorities remain supporting and informing the Gerrish / Chung family during this tragic time. As we navigate through this investigation with the family, we will later share our findings with the public. “- Sheriff Jeremy Briese

Details we can update at this time:

General Information-
As of the date of this update the cause of death remains undetermined. Detectives continue conducting interviews and investigating all potential possible explanations for the death of the Gerrish / Chung family. Many toxicology reports have been completed; however, we are still pending a few key results. We have no timeline for those pending results.

Causes of Death Ruled Out: The following have been ruled out based on evidence recovered or through investigation. ALL other potential causes of death remain.

Gun or any other type of weapon
Lightning Strike
Carbon Monoxide
Carbon Dioxide
Cyanide Exposure
Illegal Drugs / Alcohol
Suicide

Heat exhaustion hasn’t been ruled out?

Has heat exposure been ruled out? If murder was previously ruled out, why isn’t it on the updated list of causes that have been ruled out?

[Anonymous]

LOL at the long winded, self-serving, mystery solving Lightning Strike poster. Bawahahahahahahahhaa

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope to god nothing mysterious ever leads to my demise and a bunch of keyboard warrior idiots start speculating about it, combing through my life and scrutinizing every tiny minuscule detail I did or did not do…like, god forbid, not posting a picture of my child on Instagram for 7 months. I haven’t posted a picture on Instagram of my child for 2+ years, so I MUST be some depressive, suicidal, and deranged maniac plotting ways to murder my family.

Should anyone find out I stopped drinking coffee a bit of time ago, I wonder what kind of speculation would THAT lead to: SHE HAS TOURETTES AND A TOUCAN SWOOPED DOWN AND KNOCKED HER WITH IT’S BEAK, CAUSING COGNITIVE DIFFICULTIES AND AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR — SHE MURDERED HER FAMILY!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ. Get a grip people. Webslueths is full of a bunch of idiots without a single rational thought, no ability to logically reason, and possessing zero critical thinking skills. They’re almost always wrong and never right and they literally double down on their bogus theories when the evidence proves their level of bogus-ness is more than previously thought. Hey if no one else will say it, I will. Turn that crazy train around and redirect it right back to where you came from, Websluethers.

Anyway - I’m placing my bets on: they got stuck by lightning. There were warnings in place for the Sierra National Forest preceding their hike and the warnings extended to multiple days. You can also look up lightning strike archives for different areas around the the world and although some strikes may not be recorded or may be missed, on that date and in that area it does show activity. A thunderstorm is not required for lightning to occur, either, despite the misconception so for those who will say there were no storms in the area have little to back up their claim. It all makes sense of you understand anything about how lightning works, even down to the position he was found in. For example: Absent any shelter, and in an open field/area without any other options, it’s recommended (limited to one’s options, obv) to sit on the ground - yes, sit and not lay as it’s less contact with the ground - with something between you and ground if you can…like a blanket, coat, anything. (I’m not making the claim that he had anything between him and the ground - I’m just clarifying what is recommended when you have no options, and it’s recommended because lightning is electricity - it always wants to find ground, so the less contact the better.) It’s also recommended to spread out in the event one gets struck, the other doesn’t also. The baby and dog limit their ability to do this fully, but it explains the couple being apart. Further, a direct strike is rare. Most people who get struck by lightning is from an indirect strike, like it hitting an object and dispersing on the ground beneath, which explains my first point about wanting the least amount of contact with the ground which is why you don’t want to lay down. It also can paralyze you momentarily (think of what happens if you’ve ever been shocked before), which I’m speculating on this next part but I would think if your heart stops in that moment (cardiac arrest is the cause of death regarding lightning strikes), you’d pass in that position. Lastly, experts have said that the low statistics for being struck by lightning are dramatically underestimated and it’s far more likely than is stated.

Uh... pot meet kettle.

You disparage everyone else for doing the same exact thing that you just did -- with the exception that other people didn't ramble on & on in a sanctimonious tirade, just to then come up with their own "speculating" theory.

You're ridiculous.

It wasn’t sanctimonious. I’m disparaging the people who are claiming the wife killed the family because she had mental health issues and using the fact that she didn’t post on Instagram for months so she must not have liked them/being a mom as the evidence for their theory. That’s ridiculous and it perpetuates stereotyping everyone who struggles with mental health which is already a problem. Their speculations are based on baseless assumptions and cruel stereotypical judgment. My speculation is supported by facts - re: how lightning works. By “Webslueths”, I wasn’t talking about general people who take interest in true crime - I was referring to the actual website: Webslueths.

The PP in the post before this is talking about you... 😁

[Anonymous]

Geez. How long is this going to take? I can’t imagine that they are finding much new information after all this time.

[Anonymous]

The long winded poster ranting @ WS types a lot like the "sock puppeting troll" that Jeff banned. Maybe it was a 1 week time out?