CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:Asthma.. respiratory diseases.. well.. rolled them all in one.. all deadly..

Nearly 37 million Americans live with a chronic lung disease like asthma and COPD, which includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

this number does not include lung cancer which is gigantic..

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so here is more..
However, this number may be much higher because more than 18 million adults have evidence of impaired lung function, and may have undiagnosed COPD.

so PP... roll those two numbers and add all the respiratory in one and what do we have..

37 plus 18.. that is your lung sufferers right there.

add this to heart issues of 120.. and we got what?.. 120 plus 55.. 175 right there..
shell we continue I think not..

If that many people were at high risk we would have a lot more dead people right now. Most recover.

No, because many people who got the virus weeks ago are just now starting to have symptoms or have severe enough symptoms To be hospitalized or to die.

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Folks still don’t understand this. It doubles every three days. It takes at least five days for symptoms to appear. At any given time roughly 75% of infected people caught the disease in the last six days and most of those don’t have symptoms yet. Most of those that die won’t pass away for another 2-3 weeks. Honestly I’m getting tired of explaining this. People here just don’t understand it.

+100 There is an entire group of people who don’t understand this and who are largely responsible for spreading this. Unfortunately, some of them understand it only after they or family members have gotten it, spread it to others and put health-care workers and paramedics at risk. So if you are among the pandemic deniers or can’t grasp the concepts behind epidemiology, do everyone else a favor and stay at home, and do a little studying. Maybe really stop to think about the consequences of your words during a pandemic before typing them. Now would be the time, given the high stakes.

I do understand.

I also know we're still not seeing the outbreaks and surges other cities are witnessing now and we've been in shutdown longer than most places. Other cities are having outbreaks despite the DMV having earlier recorded positive cases.

That suggests the DC region is doing very well relatively speaking. Even in Seattle, where the virus first broke out in the US, there's nothing like the NYC numbers and their cases seem to be leveling off.

We were critiquing the flawed analysis. People who were not in shutdown communities traveled in the past several weeks. People were were in communities now shut down also traveled or came into contact with people who did — and were exposed. Given the lag between exposure and symptoms and hospitalization and death, as well as the folks who are asymptomatic, and health-care workers, paramedics and others getting exposed — it’s a bit early to be talking about a trend of leveling off and the DC area doing relatively better. Try to think of all those links, multiplied. Maryland cases doubled in just a few days. Sure, the social-distancing measures will likely pay off, but it will take more time and more steps. You might do better to ask questions to people on this forum, some of whom are well-read on this issue or have expertise based on their jobs, rather than to speak so definitively when there are so many variables and possible scenarios in play.

[Anonymous]

Well said!

[Anonymous]

Coronavirus timeline:
- January 19: 100 cases
- January 24: 1,000 cases
- February 12: 50,000 cases
- March 6: 100,000 cases
- March 18: 200,000 cases
- March 21: 300,000 cases
- March 24: 400,000 cases
- March 26: 500,000 cases
- March 28: 600,000 cases
- March 29: 700,000 cases

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Coronavirus timeline:
- January 19: 100 cases
- January 24: 1,000 cases
- February 12: 50,000 cases
- March 6: 100,000 cases
- March 18: 200,000 cases
- March 21: 300,000 cases
- March 24: 400,000 cases
- March 26: 500,000 cases
- March 28: 600,000 cases
- March 29: 700,000 cases

Yes?

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Anonymous wrote:Asthma.. respiratory diseases.. well.. rolled them all in one.. all deadly..

Nearly 37 million Americans live with a chronic lung disease like asthma and COPD, which includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

this number does not include lung cancer which is gigantic..

posted too fast..
so here is more..
However, this number may be much higher because more than 18 million adults have evidence of impaired lung function, and may have undiagnosed COPD.

so PP... roll those two numbers and add all the respiratory in one and what do we have..

37 plus 18.. that is your lung sufferers right there.

add this to heart issues of 120.. and we got what?.. 120 plus 55.. 175 right there..
shell we continue I think not..

If that many people were at high risk we would have a lot more dead people right now. Most recover.

No, because many people who got the virus weeks ago are just now starting to have symptoms or have severe enough symptoms To be hospitalized or to die.

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Folks still don’t understand this. It doubles every three days. It takes at least five days for symptoms to appear. At any given time roughly 75% of infected people caught the disease in the last six days and most of those don’t have symptoms yet. Most of those that die won’t pass away for another 2-3 weeks. Honestly I’m getting tired of explaining this. People here just don’t understand it.

+100 There is an entire group of people who don’t understand this and who are largely responsible for spreading this. Unfortunately, some of them understand it only after they or family members have gotten it, spread it to others and put health-care workers and paramedics at risk. So if you are among the pandemic deniers or can’t grasp the concepts behind epidemiology, do everyone else a favor and stay at home, and do a little studying. Maybe really stop to think about the consequences of your words during a pandemic before typing them. Now would be the time, given the high stakes.

I do understand.

I also know we're still not seeing the outbreaks and surges other cities are witnessing now and we've been in shutdown longer than most places. Other cities are having outbreaks despite the DMV having earlier recorded positive cases.

That suggests the DC region is doing very well relatively speaking. Even in Seattle, where the virus first broke out in the US, there's nothing like the NYC numbers and their cases seem to be leveling off.

We were critiquing the flawed analysis. People who were not in shutdown communities traveled in the past several weeks. People were were in communities now shut down also traveled or came into contact with people who did — and were exposed. Given the lag between exposure and symptoms and hospitalization and death, as well as the folks who are asymptomatic, and health-care workers, paramedics and others getting exposed — it’s a bit early to be talking about a trend of leveling off and the DC area doing relatively better. Try to think of all those links, multiplied. Maryland cases doubled in just a few days. Sure, the social-distancing measures will likely pay off, but it will take more time and more steps. You might do better to ask questions to people on this forum, some of whom are well-read on this issue or have expertise based on their jobs, rather than to speak so definitively when there are so many variables and possible scenarios in play.

You can say the exact same thing about your own views.

The virus is not doubling or playing out the same everywhere. It varies greatly from place to place. It spread very differently between NYC and Seattle. Its spreading differently from country to country.

I'm sure Maryland's numbers will increase in due time but will it be more like Seattle or New York? Will we plateau at a few thousand and level off the way Washington State seems to be doing or will it skyrocket into the tens of thousands like NY?

Given Maryland's aggressive move to clamping down on the virus and early shutdowns as well as a much lower density comparable to Seattle, it suggests we are more likely to play out comparable to Seattle than New York.

[Anonymous]

This is a brutal read. From normal life to this hell in a week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/28/voices-from-the-pandemic-indiana-man-recounts-partners-death-from-coronavirus/

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know of research showing how long virus survives in air without a host after infected person coughs or sneezes? At least one local person who has been home quarantining for more than two weeks except for walks outside has been confirmed as having corona virus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a brutal read. From normal life to this hell in a week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/28/voices-from-the-pandemic-indiana-man-recounts-partners-death-from-coronavirus/

At some point being an adult, it dawned on me that everything can be great, and in a week, a day, an hour, the world can be upside down.

"We're at the hospital, grandmom had a heart attack"

"Your dad's testing came back, the doc wanted you to be there when we meet with him"

"They found your brother Bill dead, hanging. But they said it was an accident, what does that mean?" makes me glad grandmom went from the heart attack first .

Kinda makes you appreciate the good days a whole lot more. I dont let any go by without gratitude. and any day that doesnt involve a hospital trip or a dire dx is a good one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a brutal read. From normal life to this hell in a week.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/28/voices-from-the-pandemic-indiana-man-recounts-partners-death-from-coronavirus/

At some point being an adult, it dawned on me that everything can be great, and in a week, a day, an hour, the world can be upside down.

"We're at the hospital, grandmom had a heart attack"

"Your dad's testing came back, the doc wanted you to be there when we meet with him"

"They found your brother Bill dead, hanging. But they said it was an accident, what does that mean?" makes me glad grandmom went from the heart attack first .

Kinda makes you appreciate the good days a whole lot more. I dont let any go by without gratitude. and any day that doesnt involve a hospital trip or a dire dx is a good one.

Truth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know of research showing how long virus survives in air without a host after infected person coughs or sneezes? At least one local person who has been home quarantining for more than two weeks except for walks outside has been confirmed as having corona virus.

The incubation phase can be as long as 28 days. More commonly people show symptoms in less than two weeks but the research has shown many cases that were much longer than the 14 days. The range is 2-28 days in the last paper I saw. Some of those on the cruise ships got sick a couple weeks after their 14 day quarantine ended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know of research showing how long virus survives in air without a host after infected person coughs or sneezes? At least one local person who has been home quarantining for more than two weeks except for walks outside has been confirmed as having corona virus.

This is a good summary: https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-can-become-aerosol-doesnt-mean-doomed/

The bottom line is, if you are maintaining appropriate social distancing, it is unlikely to would catch covid from simply walking into the space where someone sick had preciously sneezed or coughed. It’s not impossible, of course, but for many reasons this just doesn’t seem to be a common scenario.

I would guess it’s more likely the individual you’re referring to had some sort of contact s/he is misremembering, or perhaps there was a longer than average incubation period.

[Anonymous]

MD and VA shelter in place ordered

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Anonymous wrote:MD and VA shelter in place ordered

Correction “stay at home” orders.

[Anonymous]

June 10 for VA? Is this F#{%~^cking serious. I will not make it two more months. I live alone!

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know of research showing how long virus survives in air without a host after infected person coughs or sneezes? At least one local person who has been home quarantining for more than two weeks except for walks outside has been confirmed as having corona virus.

The incubation phase can be as long as 28 days. More commonly people show symptoms in less than two weeks but the research has shown many cases that were much longer than the 14 days. The range is 2-28 days in the last paper I saw. Some of those on the cruise ships got sick a couple weeks after their 14 day quarantine ended.

Thanks!