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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.


Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.





I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?



A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.



One person did grant a tv interview.


That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.


What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...


She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.


She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.




She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.






The woman who did the interview is one of the kindest, warmest people you could imagine. She is part of the Cathedral school community, and was a friend of Amy's. She is well spoken, loving and kind. A rare treat in Washington!



I think we can all agree that it is better to err on the side of keeping the family's privacy.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.


Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.





I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?



A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.



One person did grant a tv interview.


That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.


What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...


She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.


She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.




She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.






The woman who did the interview is one of the kindest, warmest people you could imagine. She is part of the Cathedral school community, and was a friend of Amy's. She is well spoken, loving and kind. A rare treat in Washington!


Thank you!! I don't know her but the words of choice that naturally came to her relayed what kind of person she was imo. We need more people like her in this world.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.


Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.





I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?

A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.



One person did grant a tv interview.


That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.


What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...


She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.


She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.




She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.






What does it even matter? Who cares?? If people want to show support they should...if you don't like it..too bad




Why so angry? Hasn't this family been through enough for you? Non-family members speaking to the public does not change what happened. It would be self serving, at best.



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why is it so bad that one of Amy's friends spoke to the media? I would like to learn more about their lives as opposed to their deaths. and I imagine they would prefer to be remembered for the lives they led rather than for the horrific way in which they perished.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.


Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.





I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?



A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.



One person did grant a tv interview.


That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.


What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...


She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.


She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.




She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.






The woman who did the interview is one of the kindest, warmest people you could imagine. She is part of the Cathedral school community, and was a friend of Amy's. She is well spoken, loving and kind. A rare treat in Washington!



I think we can all agree that it is better to err on the side of keeping the family's privacy.

Too late. It's national news. Everyone already knows their name, address, schools, work, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to judge anyone but I think the previous poster may be upset and surprised because I was told the family specifically asked friends and their community to NOT to give interviews to the media, so if the previous poster was a friend, she is probably surprised and upset. Also, I was told several people were contacted to do interviews or speak to the media and denied them and said no out of respect for the family.


This is true. I am Facebook friends with one of the daughters and she made a post asking people to respect their privacy and not interact with the media.
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Anonymous wrote:What incentive could he possibly have to turn self in? No death penalty in dc so that is off the table

I would think his chances of being in jail rest of life are 100% so why not try to run? I can't see him getting out after only 30 yes because he turned himself in and cooperated


THere are any number of hooks here for federal charges, so the death penalty is not off the table. Not at all.


To avoid the death penalty by cooperating? He may have acted alone. I have no idea. But, if there are others involved, he could possibly avoid the death sentence or be able to have some type of freedom someday. Even freedom from a guilty conscious and find peace with the Lord. The running makes no sense to me. You cannot run from God. And he is amazing. Sorry atheists.


OP here. My point is that there IS no death penalty in DC. The only way it's in play is if the Feds charge him where there is a death penalty for murder with arson, torture, children, etc. Why surrender if the penalty is life whether caught, or surrendering and cooperating?
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Anonymous wrote:What incentive could he possibly have to turn self in? No death penalty in dc so that is off the table

I would think his chances of being in jail rest of life are 100% so why not try to run? I can't see him getting out after only 30 yes because he turned himself in and cooperated


agree..he's going to run as long as he can


I believe his incentive is he has three children. They will grow up under this umbrella of their father's acts. Although horrific perhaps he can still be there for them to show them what not to do. Make better choices, etc. Children still end up loving their parent no matter the circumstances.

My guess the crime being solved will help the S children as well. We do not know if he acted alone. Perhaps the authorities already do.

If he has one ounce of true love for his kids, he will turn himself in.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.


Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.





I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?

A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.



One person did grant a tv interview.


That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.


What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...


She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.


She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.




She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.






What does it even matter? Who cares?? If people want to show support they should...if you don't like it..too bad




Why so angry? Hasn't this family been through enough for you? Non-family members speaking to the public does not change what happened. It would be self serving, at best.





Wait...what?....Angry? DID I TYPE LIKE THIS? come on..get real nobody is angry
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Anonymous wrote:I think many of us are shocked that pizza was ordered during a hostage situation in the first place Followed by an obvious attempt to destroy all the evidence. We all realize DNA collection is standard procedure. But, my head is shaking thinking about the stupidity of leaving pizza crust. My guess is the kitchen was located on the first floor not far from the front door.


The way a lot of people keep bringing up how they are shocked or surprised about the pizza crust just shows how many people didn't think of the DNA from saliva being on the crust. A lot of people just think about fingerprints but a criminal has DNA on file to be searched against.


Nope. It is the absurdity of ordering a pizza while in the middle of murdering for people and that very pizza leading to your downfall.


I don't see how the pizza delivery is absurd considering what just happened. Plus they were alive or at SS was until the afternoon the next day.

I think SS convinced him to order to get someone to the house, hoping they would see something or a neighbor might think it was off to see Domino's at midnight. Someone showed him where the envelope was and more than likely gave him the idea to put money in the envelope and leave it out front. Maybe that is how the perp got the money drop on the front step idea??(it was just easy to get his pizza on the front step) I'm sure SS was thinking and trying anything he could to get his family safe.


I'm sure there is much more evidence (he was in that house almost 24hrs) but Domino's pizza kids already leaked to the media that they delivered that night. Police shared the evidence they collected shortly after with the suspect name.


Agree..I feel like he worked in the house on a reno (I read the kitchen was being reno'd) project possibly as the painter? If so, he would be there early in the morning everyday and know the whole routine. He would know the in's and out's of the house, the dog would be familiar with him too depending on how long he has worked there.


I posted the original pizza comment. I appreciate all the feedback. If he painted the house, why did the housekeeper state she had never seen him before? I too thought he could have done some paiting in the house. However, I recall reading somewhere she had never seen him before.


I believe nothing I read about the housekeeper anymore..every story has been twisted and untrue from her



Because he didn't paint the house. That was just some guess by a rando here based on how they feel. Sheesh.


Why do you become so defensive and feel the need to put down every contributor? If you can solve it, please do so. Many of us are shocked by the brutality, admire the ability of SS to try and save his family while being held hostage by dropping clues.

If Mr. Wint is smart, he will turn himself in and tell the authorities everything. If he has one ounce of remorse, he will call the authorities NOW! Afterall, he could have just been one of the participants but not the ring leader.


Thank you.


WTF are you talking about? Guessing that Wint painted the house has nothing to do Mr. S, who I admire greatly.

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Anonymous wrote:What incentive could he possibly have to turn self in? No death penalty in dc so that is off the table

I would think his chances of being in jail rest of life are 100% so why not try to run? I can't see him getting out after only 30 yes because he turned himself in and cooperated


agree..he's going to run as long as he can


I believe his incentive is he has three children. They will grow up under this umbrella of their father's acts. Although horrific perhaps he can still be there for them to show them what not to do. Make better choices, etc. Children still end up loving their parent no matter the circumstances.

My guess the crime being solved will help the S children as well. We do not know if he acted alone. Perhaps the authorities already do.

If he has one ounce of true love for his kids, he will turn himself in.


Omg. Hilarious.

On his Facebook page, which may not be up now, there was a picture of a two-three yr old girl with the caption "if you want one this cute, holla at me" or so,etching like that

Yeah, sounds like an upstanding dad alright.
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Can someone educate me about what could be the federal nexus here? Seems dc has an interest in making sure it's own laws are enforced against crimes committed in the jurisdiction.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to judge anyone but I think the previous poster may be upset and surprised because I was told the family specifically asked friends and their community to NOT to give interviews to the media, so if the previous poster was a friend, she is probably surprised and upset. Also, I was told several people were contacted to do interviews or speak to the media and denied them and said no out of respect for the family.


This is true. I am Facebook friends with one of the daughters and she made a post asking people to respect their privacy and not interact with the media.


I knew Amy, though not well, and I was just thinking that her friends had shown admirable class and restraint and then this woman comes along. She clearly had her hair and makeup done for the interview. Sorry, I'm disgusted.
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Details about Savopoulos's assistant who delivered $40,000 cash to family's home

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29129466/savopoulos-assistant
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know this woman at all. Nor do I have any mutual friends. Not trying to humiliate her in the slightest. But one person posted "I knew Amy, and I've never heard of this person," and I thought it was noteworthy that they weren't facebook friends. That is all.


There are people who aren't on Facebook. Real, normal people!


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I have about 500 FB friends, most long distance friends and family. I don't like the phone, so we message each other on FB sometimes to catch up, or arrange to see each other if we are in the other's area.

But most people I hang out with on a regular basis are not on FB, and that is fine with me. We see each other all the time.



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