Fire in upper NW?

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Anonymous wrote:What incentive could he possibly have to turn self in? No death penalty in dc so that is off the table

I would think his chances of being in jail rest of life are 100% so why not try to run? I can't see him getting out after only 30 yes because he turned himself in and cooperated

THere are any number of hooks here for federal charges, so the death penalty is not off the table. Not at all.

To avoid the death penalty by cooperating? He may have acted alone. I have no idea. But, if there are others involved, he could possibly avoid the death sentence or be able to have some type of freedom someday. Even freedom from a guilty conscious and find peace with the Lord. The running makes no sense to me. You cannot run from God. And he is amazing. Sorry atheists.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know this woman at all. Nor do I have any mutual friends. Not trying to humiliate her in the slightest. But one person posted "I knew Amy, and I've never heard of this person," and I thought it was noteworthy that they weren't facebook friends. That is all.

There are people who aren't on Facebook. Real, normal people!

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I have about 500 FB friends, most long distance friends and family. I don't like the phone, so we message each other on FB sometimes to catch up, or arrange to see each other if we are in the other's area.

But most people I hang out with on a regular basis are not on FB, and that is fine with me. We see each other all the time.

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I don't want to judge anyone but I think the previous poster may be upset and surprised because I was told the family specifically asked friends and their community to NOT to give interviews to the media, so if the previous poster was a friend, she is probably surprised and upset. Also, I was told several people were contacted to do interviews or speak to the media and denied them and said no out of respect for the family.

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Yeah, he's on the run. For all I know, maybe Mexico by now.

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Anonymous wrote:This does not bode well in terms of convincing the business community to hire ex-cons. I could be wrong but I believe the mayor has been a strong supporter of legislation to encourage business owners to do exactly what SS did... Provide opportunities for those struggling with employment after conviction s.

My husband employs 80+ people in DC. I always thought he was doing a good deed by giving people a chance to better themselves. He is quick to give loans to his employees. If this is putting our kids at risk I'm sure he will reconsider. Protecting your family is more important.

Can he review HR records to see if there are any violent offenders on staff? That stuff comes up with a simple 5 minute background check.

The legislation that was being pushed last year would have made it illegal for employers to turn someone away for a job they met the overall requirements for after learning of a conviction. They could still ask candidates about their criminal record, but could not use that info to make a decision between candidates. So, for example, if a person was qualified for the job and the only reason they wouldn't be hired would be their rap sheet, selecting another comparable candidate without a rap shet would be grounds for a lawsuit. Did not structure that sentence well but rushing to put my kids to bed.

Good luck to you, and best wishes for the company's success.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.

Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.

I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?

A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.

One person did grant a tv interview.

That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.

What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...

She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.

She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.

She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.

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Anonymous wrote:"This is a nightmare for me. I can't believe they're gone," Gutierrez said. "I loved this family very deeply and the little boy and my friend Vera."

Now she says she loved them?

Wtf is wrong with you, pp? Seriously.

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I've never heard of leaving pizza on a stoop. You don't think the Dominoes guy found that odd?


I think if the Domino's guy opened the envelope and found a lot more money than was required to buy that particular pizza, he wouldn't put aside his shock.

As for being able to tell about someone via toppings, if I order a pizza that has sausage and mushrooms, everyone who knows me will know that I am not the intended recipient of that pizza, since I am a vegetarian who despises mushrooms. So I think this would fall under "no such thing as a stupid question" but strongly suspect that they have better leads than this. If the pizza crust hadn't been the thing that broke the case, I would have thought the pizza angle to be too crazy for words, but here we are.


I don't understand why many people are so surprised about the pizza crust dna. DNA is collected all the time from various things, like food, utensils, cups, soda can, cigarettes, hair brush.etc etc etc..your DNA is all around.


thank you bill nye


He's a Sidwell graduate, after all.

I'll take that as a compliment.

He was a convicted criminal in Maryland. Once you are convicted in Maryland and other states they take DNA samples. With the current tech it is better to contaminate a crime scene with random DNA collected in public places- chewed gum, hair(from a salon) used tissues, etc. So he was already in the Maryland DNA data bank.

In Maryland v. King, 569 U.S. ___ (2013), the United States Supreme Court decided that "when officers make an arrest supported by probable cause to hold for a serious offense and bring the suspect to the station to be detained in custody, taking and analyzing a cheek swab of the arrestee's DNA is, like fingerprinting and photographing, a legitimate police booking procedure that is reasonable under the Fourth Amendment." 133 S.Ct. at 1980. The majority opinion, written by Justice Anthony Kennedy, described Maryland's law as

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland_v._King

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Anonymous wrote:I don't want to judge anyone but I think the previous poster may be upset and surprised because I was told the family specifically asked friends and their community to NOT to give interviews to the media, so if the previous poster was a friend, she is probably surprised and upset. Also, I was told several people were contacted to do interviews or speak to the media and denied them and said no out of respect for the family.

+1

As it should be. Good for them for doing the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.

Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.

I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?

A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.

One person did grant a tv interview.

That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.

What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...

She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.

She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.

She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.

What does it even matter? Who cares?? If people want to show support they should...if you don't like it..too bad

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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.

Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.

I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?

A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.

One person did grant a tv interview.

That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.

What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...

She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.

She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.

She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.

- signed, self appointed arbiter of class

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Wonder if there is any merit in the AG announcing that the FEDS will prosecute as a federal death penalty crime if he is caught versus turning himself in.

That's about the only reason for him to turn himself in.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.

Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.

I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?

A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.

One person did grant a tv interview.

That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.

What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...

She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.

She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.

She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.

- signed, self appointed arbiter of class

Perfectly said

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Anonymous wrote:I wish parents in the Cathedral school community would use discretion in talking about this tragedy on Facebook and I don't think people should be giving interviews. This is a private community and it seems in bad taste to be discussing such a tragedy on Facebook or give interviews.

Yes, I agree with this whole heartedly. I think most have been keeping hush publicly out of respect for the family's privacy.

I am a member of the NCS community and have many friends on FB who knew the family. No one is talking about it in my circle at all. I haven't even seen one mention, with the exception of a couple of links to the announcement of a suspect. I don't consider that indiscreet at all, and am surprised that others are talking. That said, I posted constantly about Relisha Rudd's disappearance. If I had known anyone on FB who knew her, would that somehow be an invasion of her family's privacy?



A crime in this city affects the city - not just the individuals. We all have emotions about it, as amply demonstrated on this thread. Some people are more open about such things than others. I am unlikely to judge anyone for feeling the need to talk about it.

One person did grant a tv interview.

That person isn't a member of the NCS/STA community.

What news channel carried this interview? I did not see it.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/mansion-fire-friend-dc-blaze-victim-calls-devoted/story?id=31178190
I knew Amy. Never seen/ heard of this woman before...

She is a part of the Beauvoir community and was friends with Amy. Her grief is clearly genuine.

She was very well spoken and looked very genuine to me.

She may be genuine, but usually when people come forward and charade, it is not genuine at all, it is all for show. It's pretty obvious.

I was relieved to see that this has not been turned into a circus of "showing support". Hopefully it will not turn that very cheap corner; hopefully it is a class distinction; hopefully this will remain low key without a big to do. Respectable families speak for themselves without poseurs coming forward. The tragedy is awful enough, as it is, without a circus.

The woman who did the interview is one of the kindest, warmest people you could imagine. She is part of the Cathedral school community, and was a friend of Amy's. She is well spoken, loving and kind. A rare treat in Washington!

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if there is any merit in the AG announcing that the FEDS will prosecute as a federal death penalty crime if he is caught versus turning himself in.

That's about the only reason for him to turn himself in.

I think he'll be better off just taking the death penalty