The Cambridges News and Updates ( Prince William, Kate Middleton, George, Charlotte and Louis)

[Anonymous]

My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

I literally cannot imagine living with the level of stupidity required to type drivel like this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The other funny thing is both Kate and William specifically hired former experienced diplomats for their staff. Two of Kate's top officials were U.K. diplomats.

So whose fault is it? The former diplomats or the leadership?

Key among them are Kate's right-hand women: private secretary Hannah Cockburn-Logie OBE, a former diplomat who joined the Cambridges' team in 2020, and assistant private secretary Natalie Barrows, who has worked for the Royal Family for five years.

The have experienced people on their staff? And all this mess still happened? Wow.

This isn’t in their staff, FFS. It’s the hosts - all they had to do was either decline or be courteous and welcoming. Bahamas seems to understand this very basic element of diplomacy. Barbados too (they’re not part of this tour but have been very welcoming despite withdrawing from the commonwealth). Jamaica could have declined the visit. Instead they used it to disparage their guests; two people who had nothing to do with slavery or colonialism and seemed genuinely intent on making a connection with the Jamaican people. Instead their haters used two second clips and bad pictures of Kate to tear them down. Gross.

Multiple people — I guess — throughout this thread have asserted that:1) the host countries invited the BRF to visit and 2) that the hosts could have declined the visit. No one has provided anything that supports either of these assertions. Such posters then take their suppositions and run with them. Does anybody really know how these visits actually get arranged?


Yes, I get that most people don’t care about details like this, but it’s frustrating all the way around to read paragraphs about someone’s righteous rage regarding the way the visits played out, when really, said rage seems to be based on little beyond their own assumptions.

My own assumptions are that the BRF instigated and arranged all of this; Both because the countries that were visited are in close proximity to each other and because additional BRF visits are planned to Caribbean countries soon in celebration of the Queen’s Jubilee. It’s difficult for me to imagine that multiple countries — each strapped for cash and dealing with the aftermaths of COVID, some of them already planning to formally pull back from the BRF — would have coordinated to invite these expensive, time consuming visits. It’s also difficult for me to imagine that any of these countries, under their current circumstances and form of government really could decline a visit from representatives of the Queen. These are my assumptions though, and I’d welcome input from someone who actually knows how these sorts of things work.

its quite clear that these visits were coordinated between the governments. the alternative is that will and kate decided they wanted to pop in on the caribbean and somehow magically all the military receptions, head of state appearances and social events just magically happened. there were something like 100 protesters in Jamaica and around 10,000 people there to welcome them. while the jamaica trip had its problematic moments, it was a success overall. I think the point of these visits is to highlight and reinforce the friendship between the various countries, regardless of what the formal relationship is or will be. and by that standard it was and continues to be a success, despite the pages and pages of the twitter screen shots and non sequitors on this thread saying it was a terrible trip.

It was a terrible tour. So much so that the Queen’s Press Secretary took over in the last 24 hours. Embarrassing.

This stress from this shit show is going to kill the queen.

and you and the other harpies on this thread can celebrate just like you did when prince phillip died.

^Loud and wrong.

Are you the dummy who asked Jeff if all the W&K haters are all the same person?

Are you a dummy who thinks there is just one person who thinks you’re pathetic?

You’re pathetic, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

I literally cannot imagine living with the level of stupidity required to type drivel like this.

What’s inaccurate? Totally agree with the PP. All of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

You sound like you stepped out of the 1950s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

You sound like you stepped out of the 1950s.

More like the 1850s. The Queen had more class than to 'recreate' moments from her forefathers trips to islands. Can you imagine if Elizabeth had decided 'oh I want to take some fanciful photos like dear grandmama'. They would have had slaves in the fields for her and Phillip.

The Cambriges are fools. And what's more - the world is not keen on their racial charicatures for their family albums either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

I literally cannot imagine living with the level of stupidity required to type drivel like this.

What’s inaccurate? Totally agree with the PP. All of it.

+1000. Spot on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

You sound like you stepped out of the 1950s.

More like the 1850s. The Queen had more class than to 'recreate' moments from her forefathers trips to islands. Can you imagine if Elizabeth had decided 'oh I want to take some fanciful photos like dear grandmama'. They would have had slaves in the fields for her and Phillip.

The Cambriges are fools. And what's more - the world is not keen on their racial charicatures for their family albums either.

Gosh, you are projecting and awful lot onto the BRF. If you have an issue with the events that the hosts countries arranged - because, yes, the host country arranges these events and the visiting country helps with coordination, logistics, and sometimes expenses - then take it up with the Caribbean nations involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

As an American, it’s really horrifying to realize how poorly educated some people are — particularly the ones who think that the atrocities of the past are somehow not prologues to the events and circumstances of the present and the future.

tldr: When even Prince William is more enlightened than you are….

[Anonymous]

The UK still matters.

The BRF? Why and to whom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The UK still matters.

The BRF? Why and to whom?

For whatever reason, the BRF has a tremendous global following. That’s just a fact. You really can’t argue with that fact. If nobody cared, the media wouldn’t cover them…and we wouldn’t have so many threads on dcum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

As an American, it’s really horrifying to realize how poorly educated some people are — particularly the ones who think that the atrocities of the past are somehow not prologues to the events and circumstances of the present and the future.

tldr: When even Prince William is more enlightened than you are….

?

Everyone knows about the history. Colonialism. Slavery.

Should the Bidens be snubbed and treated rudely when hosted abroad? I mean, American history includes atrocities around the world…with many more atrocities having occurred in recent years/decades while Biden was in office.

Point being: when you are on display on the world stage with cameras everywhere, you behave in a dignified way.

Will and Kate behaved appropriately. Some of their hosts did not.

Historic events should not impact how you treat anyone—especially guests you are hosting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

You sound like you stepped out of the 1950s.

More like the 1850s. The Queen had more class than to 'recreate' moments from her forefathers trips to islands. Can you imagine if Elizabeth had decided 'oh I want to take some fanciful photos like dear grandmama'. They would have had slaves in the fields for her and Phillip.

The Cambriges are fools. And what's more - the world is not keen on their racial charicatures for their family albums either.

Gosh, you are projecting and awful lot onto the BRF. If you have an issue with the events that the hosts countries arranged - because, yes, the host country arranges these events and the visiting country helps with coordination, logistics, and sometimes expenses - then take it up with the Caribbean nations involved.

Its the Queens Jubilee. The palace staff reached out to rush these too lazy moths to the West Indies because William at 40 had never been to a single one. They demanded all the pompous military parades and grandstanding of the monarch and they got it.

I guarantee the Wessex won't be making the same errors next month. Just like Charles, the actual Prince of Wales, someone managed to make it to both Tuvalu and Jamaica without putting on slavemaster scenarios.

They got what they deserved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway (as an American living in America):

Will and Kate are lovely, dignified people who performed well while some of their hosts acted rather rudely. The hosts look bad, not the guests.

The one woman seated next to Kate who famously snubbed her looked like a petulant child. She clearly has no grace. No class.

The reality is that the UK and their royals still matter, while these little Caribbean islands are largely still considered third world outposts that outsiders use for beach vacations (largely holed up at luxury resorts where it’s safe). Most locals live in poverty. No wonder they have a chip on their shoulder. But at some point, they need to realize they’ve had independence and can only blame themselves for their current standard of living.

As an American, it’s really horrifying to realize how poorly educated some people are — particularly the ones who think that the atrocities of the past are somehow not prologues to the events and circumstances of the present and the future.

tldr: When even Prince William is more enlightened than you are….

?

Everyone knows about the history. Colonialism. Slavery.

Should the Bidens be snubbed and treated rudely when hosted abroad? I mean, American history includes atrocities around the world…with many more atrocities having occurred in recent years/decades while Biden was in office.

Point being: when you are on display on the world stage with cameras everywhere, you behave in a dignified way.

Will and Kate behaved appropriately. Some of their hosts did not.

Historic events should not impact how you treat anyone—especially guests you are hosting.

A talking dog can do what William and Kate did. Stand on cue and smile for the photos. A head of state is supposed to be able to read the political situation of the country they are in (ideally one they've visited many times before and not for some weird 72-hour jaunts 10 years into their marriage) and tailor a tour accordingly. William is a failure. The realms don't want a future with him.

[Anonymous]

https://www.history.co.uk/articles/was-the-british-empire-a-force-for-good

ICYMI: the British actually made slave trade impossible for others once they abolished it. That was due in large part to their colonial foothold.

History is complicated.