Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs will slither away from this thread now.

Except they haven't. They'll bend reality any direction they have to in order to deflect from the rotten nature of their political culture.

The shooter is more complicated and espouses both left and right ideology.

But because he wrote on the casings antifa slogans , Antifa could be designated a terrorist organization. He will be used to target left winged organizations.

The right wing was going after the ghost-like "antifa" since they first heard of / invented it.

The right wing didn’t invent “antifa”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_City_Antifa

https://rosecityantifa.org/

Disinformation. You’re so dense you can’t even spot it when you see it.

Huh? German communists invented it in the 1930s.

Here's a socialist friendly website to show it

https://jacobin.com/2017/05/antifascist-movements-hitler-nazis-kpd-spd-germany-cold-war

That’s “antifascist”. The article shows no evidence of the abbreviation “antifa” being used back then. Germans love long words.

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Trump has been itching to use this as an excuse to wreak vengeance on Dems. What’s he going to do now that the narrative isn’t so convenient?

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uh oh, looks like Rs might have to eat crow on this one.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

And according to a slew of social media evidence, he was right wing. But you tell yourself whatever need to feel better.

Doesn’t matter what the social media evidence is. People can appear one thing and believe another. The fact that he wrote those slogans on the bullets he loaded to kill Kirk speaks more about his beliefs and intentions.

But you can go ahead and ignore evidence to fit your narrative. Nobody is going to stop you.

His use of the word 'gay' in a derogatory way is limited to right wing.

You don’t think a 22 year old male would use sarcasm and slang, do you? Impossible!

Leftist males do not use 'gay' in a derogatory way. Not even sarcastically or as slang, no.

Please stop using the term “leftist”, ok? That’s how MAGAs refer to people they hate. Don’t buy into their hate speech. Don’t use their terminology.

Call them a “centrist” or a Progressive. Do NOT use the terms that the enemy invents. You’re buying into their hate and propaganda when you do that. Please stop.

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.

Uh you’re forgetting the two legislators in MN.

That was not a public assassination. It took place in a private home.

What difference does THAT make?

Public assassinations tend to have a greater impact than private ones.

Public assassinations occur in front of witnesses or are captured by media, which amplifies the shock. The public setting turns the act into a spectacle, symbolizing a direct attack on shared values or leadership, which resonates widely and instantly. Private killings lack this immediate, communal exposure.

A public killing violates the sense of safety in shared spaces, making it feel like an attack on the public itself. Private assassinations feel more isolated, limiting the visceral sense of collective threat.

Hence the media coverage and why many are feeling this event deeply. It’s the first political assassination the public has witnessed in the US since 1968.

Correct. It’s terrorism as well

Why is it terrorism? One dude (Kirk), with a questionable reputation, was shot. He happened to have a political following, be wonder bread white, and was a YouTube influencer. Shooter is yet to be identified but appears to be another white American man of roughly the same age bracket. He used a gun, which Kirk politicized as a 2A right even if it might innocents get killed. And you say Kirk’s killing is terrorism. We fly flags at half mast and the body flies in AF2.

George Floyd is black. He also has a questionable reputation, but he was minding his on business. He was suspected of being high but quite happy. White cops detain him, and put him a chokehold (unprovoked) until he dies. People are outraged, get angry, and protest. MAGA (and probably PP) lose their mind, but they don’t view this killing as terrorism. Actually, the protestors are terrorists.

See any irony in all of that?

Floyd was not minding any business out in public, high on multiple drugs, driving high, fighting and running from police (store called that in), and not paying for items at the store.

Then BLM hoax was formed, burned down Kenosha, blm bought a mansion with the donations, harassed cities and restaurants for months after Covid, then went bankrupt.

Of course assassinating the keynote political speaker in public at a crowded event is terrorism and created immediate and widespread terror.

The police weren’t even called until after Floyd left the store. Floyd was sitting in a parked car when police arrived.

Correct, he was high, didn’t pay, got in an suv vehicle drivers seat high with two friends, store called police about theft and drug/driving risk, police came minutes later, Floyd refused to talk and ran off, Floyd refused to get in police SU?, Floyd flopped down on the ground to avoid getting into police vehicle, Floyd was restrained on the ground, Floyd died.
Nationwide BLM chaos, arson, thefts, threats, looting, deaths ensued; autopsy and trials ensued.

So you are saying it was ok for the cop to kill Floyd?

Cop didn’t intend to kill Floyd.
He was restraining Floyd, a very large man, and then everyone was going to get him into the SUV and back to the station.
Meanwhile Floyd was high on a mixture of drugs (unknown to others new to the scene), refusing to cooperate, flipping out, and started having medical issues or hyperventilating (we now know).

Didn’t look up autopsy or trial but pretty sure BLM got what they want prosecuting the police officers and defunding the police nationwide. Looting, arson, and other BLM crime aside those two years.

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Anonymous wrote:Many fail to understand that there can be conservative and democrat within the same household. My sister is a democrat amongst all of our conservative family members. The shooters family is conservative, but his father said he was concerned about his son encase he had become “ full of hate”. He had a family dinner where he mentioned Charlie Kirk coming to the Utah college and how he hated him for his beliefs. Make no mistake, the “ full of hate” was because he was a leftist.

According to some internet rando like you, LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Not Black.
Not Trans.
Not Muslim.
Not an Immigrant.
Not a Democrat.

Meet Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson.
A white Christian, Conservative, Republican male with a gun... again.

He was not a conservative. He was a leftist who said he hated Charlie Kirk and everything he stood for.

Laura Loomer hated Charlie Kirk too. Are you saying she is a leftist?

And Nick Fuentes? Is it leftist to be a mysogynistic white supremicist these days? He was engaged in the most visible battle, the Groyper War, with Charlie Kirk. Is he a leftist, too?

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Anonymous wrote:So Republicans are saying he can't be a Republican because Republicans like and support fascism?

Yeah. They are really committed to next level mental gymnastics to avoid any sense of responsibility for what they have created.

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Anonymous wrote:This is problem with young men. Not politics. Young men are feeling moved to assassinate and shoot up schools when they take grievances about something or someone. Maybe for attention, send a message, need world wide validation? Social media and sensationalism is part to blame. It isn’t any individuals politics though.

Agreed. Most if us are presumably not mentally ill (ie, we would not kill someone who disagreed with us), so our analysis of his motives are probably off base.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

And according to a slew of social media evidence, he was right wing. But you tell yourself whatever need to feel better.

Doesn’t matter what the social media evidence is. People can appear one thing and believe another. The fact that he wrote those slogans on the bullets he loaded to kill Kirk speaks more about his beliefs and intentions.

But you can go ahead and ignore evidence to fit your narrative. Nobody is going to stop you.

+1. His own father said he told his family how much he hated Charlie Kirk and all the reasons why he didn’t like him. He was a Democrat.

laura loomer and nick fuentes hated charlie kirk...are they democrats?

Laura Loomer is a botched Botox weirdo and Nick Fuentes is a dram queen. He has switched his views like a million times. I would never take his word.

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Anonymous wrote:uh oh, looks like Rs might have to eat crow on this one.

They might if Republicans were capable of feeling shame. But then again, if they were capable of self-reflection, they wouldn't be Republicans in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

He was a gun-loving Republican Mormon.

Antifa.

Saying it over and over doesn't make it so, not when the overwhelming evidence shows otherwise. It's been shown the full context of the bullet scratching is a bunch of online RPG references. But keep ignoring that.

You’re delusional. He’s left winged antifa type.

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Anonymous wrote:It's looking like this was an extreme right winger who thought Kirk wasn't right wing enough.

I called it here: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/2370/1291384.page#30770208

According to the bullet scribbling, he was Antifa.

He was a gun-loving Republican Mormon.

Antifa.

Saying it over and over doesn't make it so, not when the overwhelming evidence shows otherwise. It's been shown the full context of the bullet scratching is a bunch of online RPG references. But keep ignoring that.

You’re delusional. He’s left winged antifa type.

Serious question: do you think the rest of us are as stupid as you are?

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Anonymous wrote:He wasn’t a Democrat.
He wasn’t a Muslim.
He wasn’t an atheist.
He wasn’t an “illegal.”
He wasn’t a Jew.
He wasn’t the French (and let’s be honest, America always loves blaming the French).

He was ours.

A homegrown, red-blooded, flag-waving domestic terrorist.

The monster we raised, fed a steady diet of rage and conspiracy, and then acted surprised when he pulled the trigger.

And trump totally dismantled the domestic terror task force at the FBI. So expect a lot more of this, sadly.

+1 the FBI stated that homegrown white extremists were a bigger threat than Islamic terrorists, but Trump knew that was his base, so he told the FBI to strike that. He also has the FBI driving around DC roads to pickup vagrants and anyone who looks remotely illegal rather than having them focus on terrorist attacks.

oops.

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Anonymous wrote:So Republicans are saying he can't be a Republican because Republicans like and support fascism?

This is getting pretty McCarthyist.