Travis and Taylor

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.

it's kind of her fault. The pap walks and pr articles are coming from her team. They are making the choice to keep her in the public's eye as much as possible. None of that stuff was needed. She's already having the best year
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.


Yes, it's her fault. She cultivated it over a long time period and created a rabid fan base. That doesn't happen without planning.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.
I think so too but she could back off and not be so in your face. She didn't need to go to so many football games.


I think the reason she's been to so many games is kind of heart-breaking. In her last relationship, she wasn't allowed to show up for him or be a part of his life. He didn't want her there because of the mess it caused. When Kelce invited her to come to the games, it probably made her feel wanted...like she wasn't a burden or too much. Ugh.


I have mixed feelings about whether this is actually true or not. I think it might be more complex.

I think Taylor might view "the mess" that ensues when she publicly dates someone as something that happens TO her, that she plays no part in and can't control. But the truth is that Taylor behaves differently than a lot of people do in similar situations (including other celebrities). I think she just does not know how to be low key or chill in public, and doesn't know how to conduct a relationship in a way that won't garner maximum attention and interest. Part of this is due to the way she's cultivated her fan base and let them into her private life through her songs. And part of it is just her personality. She has this big, kind of over the top personality, at least when she's in public. People on this thread and the grammy thread have mentioned how she sucks all the air out of a room, how sometimes it feels like she's pulling exaggerated faces, being "extra." This might feel like unfair criticism but I don't mean it as criticism at all -- I think it just describes how she is. She's very animated. She's tall. She has a self-consciousness in how she holds her face and her body that make it seem like she knows people are watching, and I also think it drives people to look at her. She has this knack for getting attention, and it's served her well in her career. She has that "it" factor people in show business talk about.

But as a result, I think it's hard to separate how much of the "mess" around her relationships in public is due to the media/fans being obsessive, and how much is do to thinks Taylor does (that other people don't do) that drives that obsession. It's basically symbiotic. I don't thinks she really knows how to be another way, but I also don't think it happens without her active participation either.

So if Joe was really telling her he didn't want her at his events, I can see two sides of it. On the one hand, that's very sad and almost mean, and feels like he's not wanting her to pull attention from him and I feel for her. But also, having seen how she conducts herself in public, I also see his perspective as well, and can imagine having a partner like that and just being like "why are you SO MUCH when we are in public, why can't you just chill." Because even if those behaviors are just innate, they DO pull attention towards her, they do suck the air out of the room. It's hard to be with someone like that. I've had friends like that and honestly the friendships didn't last because everything was always all about them. It was exhausting. I wanted equal footing and I couldn't get it.

Anyway, long story short: I don't think Taylor is the victim of the press/fan attention that she sometimes seems to think she is. I think she's a bit a victim of her own nature, which has also helped her gain the success she has. But it's not conducive to a relationship and probably never will be. People like this often struggle with relationships their whole lives. They can make really bad parents because, even without meaning to, they just do not know how to put their focus on their kids instead of basking, always, in the glow of everyone else's love for them. It's actually very sad. But also not something totally outside her control. Like I said -- complex.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Kelce has gotten himself into a situation. He's the most competitive person on the planet, and she's like the ultimate trophy, but at what cost? I think he likes her. He may even think he loves her or SHOULD love her. But I also think he is keenly aware of how messy this whole situation is. He isn't stupid. He's doing the calculations - if I break up with her, what will that mean and what will happen? If I don't break up with her, what will our lives be like long term? Will it be worth the mess? And come on...I love TS about as much as anyone, but she can't not have an enormous personality and ego. Even if you're in love with someone, that can be too much. The next year should be pretty interesting.


I don’t see TS as having an “enormous personality and ego.”
Shes great at expressing herself via writing and performing. But she’s not out there politiking, forcing causes down others throats, or making demands or criticisms like some other artists.
Shes just doing her music and writing thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.
I think so too but she could back off and not be so in your face. She didn't need to go to so many football games.


She’s not doing anything in your face.

It’s social media and mass media doing that, and not even actively.

They’re just slapping up photos of her at dinner or an event. You can’t tell them to stop. They’ll do it even more if they dislike someone or get paid more per pic or more clicks
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.
I think so too but she could back off and not be so in your face. She didn't need to go to so many football games.


I think the reason she's been to so many games is kind of heart-breaking. In her last relationship, she wasn't allowed to show up for him or be a part of his life. He didn't want her there because of the mess it caused. When Kelce invited her to come to the games, it probably made her feel wanted...like she wasn't a burden or too much. Ugh.


Who wouldn’t go to the box twice a month to watch nFL football with a bunch of friends!!

Heck we do that for our kids sports games twice a week! No one’s calling us a loser.

There’s a whole family and wife and kids section at every single MLB, NFL, NBA game. What losers! And NFL has least amount of games a year.
Anonymous
All these recent interviews with Travis discussing Taylor have me convinced that this is a PR based relationship.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.
I think so too but she could back off and not be so in your face. She didn't need to go to so many football games.


I think the reason she's been to so many games is kind of heart-breaking. In her last relationship, she wasn't allowed to show up for him or be a part of his life. He didn't want her there because of the mess it caused. When Kelce invited her to come to the games, it probably made her feel wanted...like she wasn't a burden or too much. Ugh.


Who wouldn’t go to the box twice a month to watch nFL football with a bunch of friends!!

Heck we do that for our kids sports games twice a week! No one’s calling us a loser.

There’s a whole family and wife and kids section at every single MLB, NFL, NBA game. What losers! And NFL has least amount of games a year.


And she’s wearing a mini skirt for her new boyfriend gosh what a wh***.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All these recent interviews with Travis discussing Taylor have me convinced that this is a PR based relationship.



I hope you realize copying and pasting this video only sends the signal that they should keep asking him questions only about Taylor and reporting on their every move. Way to go!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think there's such a thing as being too famous. So much that it's not good for anyone. I think she's there. Not her fault.
I think so too but she could back off and not be so in your face. She didn't need to go to so many football games.


I think the reason she's been to so many games is kind of heart-breaking. In her last relationship, she wasn't allowed to show up for him or be a part of his life. He didn't want her there because of the mess it caused. When Kelce invited her to come to the games, it probably made her feel wanted...like she wasn't a burden or too much. Ugh.


I have mixed feelings about whether this is actually true or not. I think it might be more complex.

I think Taylor might view "the mess" that ensues when she publicly dates someone as something that happens TO her, that she plays no part in and can't control. But the truth is that Taylor behaves differently than a lot of people do in similar situations (including other celebrities). I think she just does not know how to be low key or chill in public, and doesn't know how to conduct a relationship in a way that won't garner maximum attention and interest. Part of this is due to the way she's cultivated her fan base and let them into her private life through her songs. And part of it is just her personality. She has this big, kind of over the top personality, at least when she's in public. People on this thread and the grammy thread have mentioned how she sucks all the air out of a room, how sometimes it feels like she's pulling exaggerated faces, being "extra." This might feel like unfair criticism but I don't mean it as criticism at all -- I think it just describes how she is. She's very animated. She's tall. She has a self-consciousness in how she holds her face and her body that make it seem like she knows people are watching, and I also think it drives people to look at her. She has this knack for getting attention, and it's served her well in her career. She has that "it" factor people in show business talk about.

But as a result, I think it's hard to separate how much of the "mess" around her relationships in public is due to the media/fans being obsessive, and how much is do to thinks Taylor does (that other people don't do) that drives that obsession. It's basically symbiotic. I don't thinks she really knows how to be another way, but I also don't think it happens without her active participation either.

So if Joe was really telling her he didn't want her at his events, I can see two sides of it. On the one hand, that's very sad and almost mean, and feels like he's not wanting her to pull attention from him and I feel for her. But also, having seen how she conducts herself in public, I also see his perspective as well, and can imagine having a partner like that and just being like "why are you SO MUCH when we are in public, why can't you just chill." Because even if those behaviors are just innate, they DO pull attention towards her, they do suck the air out of the room. It's hard to be with someone like that. I've had friends like that and honestly the friendships didn't last because everything was always all about them. It was exhausting. I wanted equal footing and I couldn't get it.

Anyway, long story short: I don't think Taylor is the victim of the press/fan attention that she sometimes seems to think she is. I think she's a bit a victim of her own nature, which has also helped her gain the success she has. But it's not conducive to a relationship and probably never will be. People like this often struggle with relationships their whole lives. They can make really bad parents because, even without meaning to, they just do not know how to put their focus on their kids instead of basking, always, in the glow of everyone else's love for them. It's actually very sad. But also not something totally outside her control. Like I said -- complex.


Disagree.

I can think of dozens of truly messy artists demanding screen time. But not Taylor out with friends or sitting in a skybox. Sure she has to be a bit made up when going in because rags pay $25k a photo snap, but she’s not posing and waving and air kissing or ranting at them. Shes literally just walking.
Must be a PITA to have paparazzi tailing you everywhere
Anonymous
Using my own eyes, I see 2 people who are ridiculously happy and on top of the world right now.

As Travis said this week, "I'd be silly to find ANY negativity with what's going on in my life."

You negative Nellies crack me up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All these recent interviews with Travis discussing Taylor have me convinced that this is a PR based relationship.



No. It’s the low life level and quality of “journalism” today.

All the athletes and artists wish they could just say, Shove it and ask a relevant question.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All these recent interviews with Travis discussing Taylor have me convinced that this is a PR based relationship.



I hope you realize copying and pasting this video only sends the signal that they should keep asking him questions only about Taylor and reporting on their every move. Way to go!

He doesn’t even know where his own girlfriend is performing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All these recent interviews with Travis discussing Taylor have me convinced that this is a PR based relationship.



I hope you realize copying and pasting this video only sends the signal that they should keep asking him questions only about Taylor and reporting on their every move. Way to go!

He doesn’t even know where his own girlfriend is performing.


If you ever listened to his podcast, you'd know that geography isn't his strong suit. At least he was right about the continent, lol.
Anonymous
He was being nonchalant, bc it’s a stupid question.

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