FCPS TJ Class of 2024 Press Release - Buried; AA Admits "TS" to Mention

[Anonymous]

Why does the race of a smart child even matter? If Asians are the best and brightest and all others are lazy and/or stupid, I’d let TJ be 100%. There should be a fair competition to get in. For Olympic Games, do they pay attention at the athlete’s race or do they want the strongest and fastest to represent the country? Who cares what race is a person who invents cure from cancer or diabetes?

Why should we go 1000 extra miles to convince black kids to apply to TJ if they don’t want to? If they applied, received a score of 99% on TJ math and science tests and were not accepted, then it would have been a different story. If they are not interested in applying or not interested in STEM, maybe we should let them live their lives and pursue their own passions. Where on this thread or other threads did black people say that they need help getting into TJ? It only appear to be some trolls or busybodies who bring up this same topic again and again.

[Anonymous]

^ meant to say “I’d let TJ be 100% Asian”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does the race of a smart child even matter? If Asians are the best and brightest and all others are lazy and/or stupid, I’d let TJ be 100%. There should be a fair competition to get in. For Olympic Games, do they pay attention at the athlete’s race or do they want the strongest and fastest to represent the country? Who cares what race is a person who invents cure from cancer or diabetes?

Why should we go 1000 extra miles to convince black kids to apply to TJ if they don’t want to? If they applied, received a score of 99% on TJ math and science tests and were not accepted, then it would have been a different story. If they are not interested in applying or not interested in STEM, maybe we should let them live their lives and pursue their own passions. Where on this thread or other threads did black people say that they need help getting into TJ? It only appear to be some trolls or busybodies who bring up this same topic again and again.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why does the race of a smart child even matter? If Asians are the best and brightest and all others are lazy and/or stupid, I’d let TJ be 100%. There should be a fair competition to get in. For Olympic Games, do they pay attention at the athlete’s race or do they want the strongest and fastest to represent the country? Who cares what race is a person who invents cure from cancer or diabetes?

Why should we go 1000 extra miles to convince black kids to apply to TJ if they don’t want to? If they applied, received a score of 99% on TJ math and science tests and were not accepted, then it would have been a different story. If they are not interested in applying or not interested in STEM, maybe we should let them live their lives and pursue their own passions. Where on this thread or other threads did black people say that they need help getting into TJ? It only appear to be some trolls or busybodies who bring up this same topic again and again.

However, we definitely need to do a way with the current AAP selection process and ensure blacks make up at least 10-15%. We also need to revamp the appeals process which allows some (mostly white) parents to legally bribe their children into the program.

[Anonymous]

The idea that anyone who raises issues is a troll or busybody just speaks to how strongly certain people have gotten used to acting like they own TJ when it’s a public school/resource.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would bet you most TJ parents pretend to be liberal on almost every topic, but when it comes to any criticisms of how TJ currently is operating they are quick to call people “commies” and worse.

The situation there is definitely getting more attention, though. See below. I honestly think they know change is coming and they’re just venting. This forum should just be renamed TJ Parent Vents.

https://www.thevablacklifestylemagazine.com/post/not-one-black-student-was-accepted-into-virginia-s-top-high-school-s-class-of-2024

(BTW, apparently the real number is 6, not 0). A School Board member shared that even if FCPS thinks she wasn’t supposed to. Still pathetic and offensive.

We don't pretend to be liberal. We are. This is not about Black vs. Asian. I don't think you are Black either.. you are just using this issue to drum up support for converting TJ to a local school so your your property values can go up.

The last paragraph in the article says it best "Black children are brilliant, capable, and worthy! We need answers as to why none of the 160 applicants were accepted, and how they plan to change in the future."

Absolutely! Thinking or implying otherwise is foolish.

Since you keep using the "Black kids not getting into TJ" issue to talk down on us, tell me.. What constructive actions have YOU taken to fix it? I personally have no idea how to fix it (not my area of specialty) but am more than happy to support good measures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea that anyone who raises issues is a troll or busybody just speaks to how strongly certain people have gotten used to acting like they own TJ when it’s a public school/resource.

Raising issues without proposing constructive solutions is stupidity.

[Anonymous]

As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why does the race of a smart child even matter? If Asians are the best and brightest and all others are lazy and/or stupid, I’d let TJ be 100%. There should be a fair competition to get in. For Olympic Games, do they pay attention at the athlete’s race or do they want the strongest and fastest to represent the country? Who cares what race is a person who invents cure from cancer or diabetes?

Why should we go 1000 extra miles to convince black kids to apply to TJ if they don’t want to? If they applied, received a score of 99% on TJ math and science tests and were not accepted, then it would have been a different story. If they are not interested in applying or not interested in STEM, maybe we should let them live their lives and pursue their own passions. Where on this thread or other threads did black people say that they need help getting into TJ? It only appear to be some trolls or busybodies who bring up this same topic again and again.

However, we definitely need to do a way with the current AAP selection process and ensure blacks make up at least 10-15%. We also need to revamp the appeals process which allows some (mostly white) parents to legally bribe their children into the program.

I agree that the appeals process where parents pay hundreds of dollars to get their child retested is very bizarre. There should be a way to successfully appeal without having to pay - at least for low income families. However, I don’t quite support a suggestion to have a certain quota for each race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ meant to say “I’d let TJ be 100% Asian”.

We had schools like this before in the US. It was called segregation. IT is illegal in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

Bravo to you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

Thank you for that. It is indeed shameful that the school does not have adequate AA and low income kids. And the county should make resources available and even have quotas for underrepresented middle schools ( where they can and should offer supplemental tutoring). That is totally constructive and equity driven.

Converting the school to a local school so that cranky lady’s property prices go up is totally bizarre

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

Why do you think AA students lose out to Asian? Our child attended Kumon for several years, which helped them to do well at school and on the TJ admission test. We paid $110-120 per month for Kumon - not that much in my view. Wouldn’t a typical FCPS AA family be able to afford that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an African American student that currently attends TJHSST (rare I know) I don't necessarily agree with everything said. I do believe that there SHOULD be some sort of cut off from certain races that attend TJHSST. After administering a poll to my classmates, the majority of the black students there said that once they get into TJ they feel comfortable there. While the work is tough, they don't feel discriminated against by any of their peers. With that being said, I feel as if not enough African American students are getting a chance to attend TJ because they're being overshadowed by predominantly Asian students. This starts from the bottom and works it way up and African American people have been at the bottom economically for generations now. So for the people that choose who gets accepted into the school, it's unfair for African American students to be compared to Asian students in the admissions process, when clearly, they'll lose out everytime. And for the fact that's it is less than 10 just shows where we are at this point and what we need to improve on. Thanks!

Why do you think AA students lose out to Asian? Our child attended Kumon for several years, which helped them to do well at school and on the TJ admission test. We paid $110-120 per month for Kumon - not that much in my view. Wouldn’t a typical FCPS AA family be able to afford that?

Stop trolling and pretending to be an Asian parent. You're trying to label TJ students as preppers. Kumon is actually not helpful at all to TJ admission and competitive work.

[Anonymous]

Hire an outside consultant, redistrict all the schools (ES to HS) with an equity focus, and eliminate this divisive, segregated “magnet.”