Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are Trump supporters tonight? I would like to hear their side of this.

They're all at that Minneapolis rally. All "50,000" of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Question...if the two who were arrested were being monitored by the FBI and there were conversations that included Rudy, does that mean Rudy was being spied on?

Because that is the exact claim that Trump is making about his campaign.

IMO, no, Rudy was NOT being spied on, but he got rolled up by others who were legally being monitored.

If you don’t want the FBI to know what you are doing or saying, you probably shouldn’t organize and operate an international criminal conspiracy and openly brag about it.

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Is there a reason you cut Pence out of the picture? He doesn't seem to be smiling as bigly as the others. Awkward.

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Anonymous wrote:I am worried for the first time, as a Trump voter

I'm not sure if I believe you.

This just feels different.

Dear Trump voter. I’m trying to understand what you are worried about? That Trump is corrupt of that he has been caught?

Because Rudy is clearly involved and I thought this sort of thing was beneath him. And there are all those photos of the two guys with Trump and Don Jr.

Beneath Rudy? Uh, he has been corrupt for decades. Part of his rooting out the NY Italian mafia was to pave the way for the Russian mafia.

Did you seriously not know this?

Link, please. He is a great man (I had thought) and a hero of 9/11. This is like finding out my grandpa might be indicted or something. I am gobsmacked today.

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Anonymous wrote:I am worried for the first time, as a Trump voter

I'm not sure if I believe you.

This just feels different.

Dear Trump voter. I’m trying to understand what you are worried about? That Trump is corrupt of that he has been caught?

Because Rudy is clearly involved and I thought this sort of thing was beneath him. And there are all those photos of the two guys with Trump and Don Jr.

Beneath Rudy? Uh, he has been corrupt for decades. Part of his rooting out the NY Italian mafia was to pave the way for the Russian mafia.

Did you seriously not know this?

Link, please. He is a great man (I had thought) and a hero of 9/11. This is like finding out my grandpa might be indicted or something. I am gobsmacked today.

Are you the Trump voter? Welcome, welcome to our world for the last few years. Buy Tums and your drug of choice.

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Beneath Rudy? Uh, he has been corrupt for decades. Part of his rooting out the NY Italian mafia was to pave the way for the Russian mafia.

Did you seriously not know this?


I'm not sure this has been proven but I think you are correct. It's odd because he has an Italian name.

I hope when Rudy is placed in custody the FBI has the presence of mind to wait until he is sober and make him take a blood test to prove sobriety before interviewing him. He has not been sober in years and his statement could be thrown out.

Barr will let Giuliani be the fall guy and somehow try to redeem himself and Trump. I think it won't work.

Only two Cabinet members have ever gone to prison. The Trump administration will double or triple this number.

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Anonymous wrote:I am worried for the first time, as a Trump voter

I'm not sure if I believe you.

This just feels different.

Dear Trump voter. I’m trying to understand what you are worried about? That Trump is corrupt of that he has been caught?

Because Rudy is clearly involved and I thought this sort of thing was beneath him. And there are all those photos of the two guys with Trump and Don Jr.

Beneath Rudy? Uh, he has been corrupt for decades. Part of his rooting out the NY Italian mafia was to pave the way for the Russian mafia.

Did you seriously not know this?

Link, please. He is a great man (I had thought) and a hero of 9/11. This is like finding out my grandpa might be indicted or something. I am gobsmacked today.

Trump supporter, sadly Rudy is very, very corrupt. I'm saddened too because I remember how he acted after 9/11. I believed he had integrity but my NY friends have told me what was really going on. You sound like a thoughtful person. Don't let ppl here belittle you. It's always hard when our hero's disappoint us.

[Anonymous]

Rudy has a brain tumor. That doesn't make him a bad guy.

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Anonymous wrote:I am worried for the first time, as a Trump voter

I'm not sure if I believe you.

This just feels different.

Dear Trump voter. I’m trying to understand what you are worried about? That Trump is corrupt of that he has been caught?

Because Rudy is clearly involved and I thought this sort of thing was beneath him. And there are all those photos of the two guys with Trump and Don Jr.

Beneath Rudy? Uh, he has been corrupt for decades. Part of his rooting out the NY Italian mafia was to pave the way for the Russian mafia.

Did you seriously not know this?

Link, please. He is a great man (I had thought) and a hero of 9/11. This is like finding out my grandpa might be indicted or something. I am gobsmacked today.

Trump supporter, sadly Rudy is very, very corrupt. I'm saddened too because I remember how he acted after 9/11. I believed he had integrity but my NY friends have told me what was really going on. You sound like a thoughtful person. Don't let ppl here belittle you. It's always hard when our hero's disappoint us.

21:31 here. I’m not belittling him. Literally, this sense of upset is where most of us have been since November 2016. I’m not going to spit at someone for stepping into the technicolor world we’ve been in. Just literally saying be prepared. It’s been hard for years, made harder by republicans mocking and gaslighting us endlessly.

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These guys met with Gov. Huckabee in Jerusalem last summer.

Oh Sarah, any comment?

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WSJ reporting that Parnas serves as the interpreter between Fox News contributors/lawyers Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing and their client Dmytro Firtash, the Ukrainian oligarch on house arrest in Vienna.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/BzPwutU0Ie

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And the boopsey twins and Giuliani were headed to....Vienna.

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Beneath Rudy? Uh, he has been corrupt for decades. Part of his rooting out the NY Italian mafia was to pave the way for the Russian mafia.

Did you seriously not know this?

I'm not sure this has been proven but I think you are correct. It's odd because he has an Italian name.

I hope when Rudy is placed in custody the FBI has the presence of mind to wait until he is sober and make him take a blood test to prove sobriety before interviewing him. He has not been sober in years and his statement could be thrown out.

Barr will let Giuliani be the fall guy and somehow try to redeem himself and Trump. I think it won't work.

Only two Cabinet members have ever gone to prison. The Trump administration will double or triple this number.
Rudy is an alcoholic? Not judging, but I figured that he had some form of dementia. I’m a Democrat, but Rudy seemed to be a hero after 9/11 and it has been terribly disappointing to see him sink to this.

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Rudy is an alcoholic? Not judging, but I figured that he had some form of dementia. I’m a Democrat, but Rudy seemed to be a hero after 9/11 and it has been terribly disappointing to see him sink to this.


Many New Yorkers point out he magnified loss of life on 9-11 because he made the political choice to move 911 communications to the basement of one of the WTC towers after the first parking garage bombing in 1993. NYC probably paid exorbitant rent for that location and he probably got a kick back for that. You have to ask how a guy from a modest background (his father was a small time mobster) who is a federal lawyer becomes a multi millionaire. He also denied budget requests for better radios resulting in fire companies and police not being able to communicate during the 9-11 attack. Also some radios did not work inside the buildings. What did he really do after 9-11 except appear on TV constantly? Someone once famously said the most dangerous place in NYC was between Rudy and a TV camera. Maybe some of his boozing and dementia come from guilt over his inaction. At some point he made the decision to go full criminal. I hope he spends the rest of his life in jail.

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This is a really helpful thread and I like the poster who said it was like a TV Series and when the new series comes out, it's hard to remember the story lines from the old series.