Shortage of "economically attractive" men reason for marriage decline according to new study

[Anonymous]

There is a shortage for one simple reason. The amount of money required to be “economically attractive” is much higher than it was 30 years ago. College debt alone is a much bigger factor. If 30 years it took $150k in 2019 dollars, today it’s likely $200k+.

[Anonymous]

I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.

Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.

Your post is very telling . . . Why would you marry someone who can't seem to take care of themself in your opinion?

I don't think your height had much to do with you being turned down. Maybe it was your view of women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The charts I saw didn't indicate a shortage. The number of employed, childless, and college-educated bachelors roughly matched the number of employed, childless, and college-educated bachelorettes. I wonder how much of this shortage is due to women wanting to date specifically white bachelors with those qualities. I could see how such a preference might lead one to believe, mistakenly, that a shortage existed.

Excellent point. Also, I notice that there are far more gay men graduating from college than was typical 40 years ago.

Race, and ethnicity bring a different dynamic into the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.

Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.

Not the same. Overweight people can lose weight (with rare exceptions). Short people can't just decide to grow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.

Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.

Your post is very telling . . . Why would you marry someone who can't seem to take care of themself in your opinion?

I don't think your height had much to do with you being turned down. Maybe it was your view of women.

Meh, he’s not wrong. Being short is a disadvantage for a male. Being tall is a disadvantage for a female. It goes both ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.

Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.

Your post is very telling . . . Why would you marry someone who can't seem to take care of themself in your opinion?

I don't think your height had much to do with you being turned down. Maybe it was your view of women.

Yeah but heavier women can lose weight. A man can't do anything about being short.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/09/09/marriage-rate-study-economically-unattractive-mxp-vpx.hln


This story discusses a Cornell study that says the reason that US marriage rates are at an all time low is because there is a shortage of economically attractive men. They are labeling economically unattractive as lacking a bachelors degree or making less than $40,000 a year. Apparently women are reluctant to "marry down" so are remaining single instead. Assuming this study is valid, why do you think there is such a shortage of men who are "economically attractive" to women?

Because some women think they are deserving of a Kardashian existence -- too much reality television.

Unmarried woman here. I make much more than 100K a year, own my home, and have a degree. I'm not at all uncommon in this area.

Why should I marry a guy who makes less than me? Doesn't own a home? And can't provide me a higher standard of living than I can for myself?

Especially considering the childbearing years and work would effectively halve my own income.

I'm genuinely curious.

Men do it all the time. Why not? If you meet somebody you love?

Odds are that the economically unattractive man will still behave and think like a man of his generation and feel terribly put upon by and deserving of endless praise and BJs for performing more than 2ppm of the household and childcare duties and will still expect the woman to do 100% of the planning/emotional labor and will then feel bored and unappreciated and will screw around with younger women while wife does essentially everyone's job.
Women have changed but moat men haven't.
[Disclaimer: haven't read past page 2 of this thread]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/09/09/marriage-rate-study-economically-unattractive-mxp-vpx.hln


This story discusses a Cornell study that says the reason that US marriage rates are at an all time low is because there is a shortage of economically attractive men. They are labeling economically unattractive as lacking a bachelors degree or making less than $40,000 a year. Apparently women are reluctant to "marry down" so are remaining single instead. Assuming this study is valid, why do you think there is such a shortage of men who are "economically attractive" to women?

Because some women think they are deserving of a Kardashian existence -- too much reality television.

Unmarried woman here. I make much more than 100K a year, own my home, and have a degree. I'm not at all uncommon in this area.

Why should I marry a guy who makes less than me? Doesn't own a home? And can't provide me a higher standard of living than I can for myself?

Especially considering the childbearing years and work would effectively halve my own income.

I'm genuinely curious.

Men do it all the time. Why not? If you meet somebody you love?

Odds are that the economically unattractive man will still behave and think like a man of his generation and feel terribly put upon by and deserving of endless praise and BJs for performing more than 2ppm of the household and childcare duties and will still expect the woman to do 100% of the planning/emotional labor and will then feel bored and unappreciated and will screw around with younger women while wife does essentially everyone's job.
Women have changed but moat men haven't.
[Disclaimer: haven't read past page 2 of this thread]

Someone's just a tad bitter about choosing the wrong husband.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I make six digits, and more than my teacher wife. But I wear the pants. The kids and her can't get out the door in the morning without my hustling them. Make dinner? Me. Scouts and sports? Me. Leaders in all. Church too. Not her. In a nutshell, I'm a good dad, economically attractive and even physically decent...with one caveat: I'm short. Women literally overlooked me while they looked for tall dark and handsome. We have several single X-gen female friends who, while they have done very well career wise, are not happy with not finding a man. My guess is women are passing over lots of good men, economically attractive men, because they still harbor Disney delusions of how he should look.

Being short is your problem, not theirs. Some men won't date a heavier woman either. Oh, well.

Your post is very telling . . . Why would you marry someone who can't seem to take care of themself in your opinion?

I don't think your height had much to do with you being turned down. Maybe it was your view of women.

Yeah but heavier women can lose weight. A man can't do anything about being short.

Not everyone will be thin. Some people are naturally heavier. Bigger frames.

[Anonymous]

Short men are just not attractive.

You'd have to be hellllllla rich to make up for it.

Even then. No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Short men are just not attractive.

You'd have to be hellllllla rich to make up for it.

Even then. No.

I'm sorry, I know it's hard being an overweight woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Short men are just not attractive.

You'd have to be hellllllla rich to make up for it.

Even then. No.

How short? like taller than me, I'd be ok. I'm a tiny female.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Short men are just not attractive.

You'd have to be hellllllla rich to make up for it.

Even then. No.

Tell that to all of Tom Cruise's female fans!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Keep coddling your sons, ladies.

Bingo! Lazy, entitled boys become lazy, entitled men. Mothers need to grab this bull by the horns and stop this.