Girls ECNL Season - 2018-19 Season

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty bad that we can't praise the soccer clubs that do a good job. McLean BRYC and FCV have been doing their part to elevate woman's soccer, rather than criticize we should appreciate what they do. I can think of 30 clubs in the DMV area that wishes they could do for their players what those clubs do.

Umm...they are the legacy ECNL clubs in the area. Players were drawn to those clubs to participate.

Someone said it best earlier, the player should claim credit for their accomplishment. There are many area trainers and coaches who are not ECNL affiliates who do a great job. Lots of private training too. Ultimately, it's the player's innate talent, drive, and effort that gets them noticed and recruited, by the clubs you mention and colleges.

The clubs have not built the players. It's quite the opposite.

.. if a kid that leaves McLean at 18 to play at UNC had stayed at gunston rather than leave at 13 do you think they would be going to UNC?

If the player didn’t leave Gunston would McLean have had as talented a team? Did McLean fundamentally change the player creating the opportunity or did the exposure that McLean offered create the opportunity? At some point UNC had to make a choice for a player and in that moment it is WHO the player fundamentally is a person and as a soccer player that makes the biggest difference.

They went to the club for the recruiting platform, not to "be developed." Whomever worked with that fictitious kid at Gunston up to U13 did a great job in teaching them the basic skills needed to make it at the ECNL level. The player had the talent and displayed the effort needed to be recruit-level. I think that same player would be recruited whether they were at McLean, BRYC, or FCV.

If you are taking your kid at 13 to a club to be recruited and not developed you are a crazy person.

Being developed and being recruited are not mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Northern Virginia ECNL Clubs Total Points

BRYC 139
McLean 129
Vda 91
Loudoun 56

Loudoun

McLean and BRYC are doing great.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pretty bad that we can't praise the soccer clubs that do a good job. McLean BRYC and FCV have been doing their part to elevate woman's soccer, rather than criticize we should appreciate what they do. I can think of 30 clubs in the DMV area that wishes they could do for their players what those clubs do.

Umm...they are the legacy ECNL clubs in the area. Players were drawn to those clubs to participate.

Someone said it best earlier, the player should claim credit for their accomplishment. There are many area trainers and coaches who are not ECNL affiliates who do a great job. Lots of private training too. Ultimately, it's the player's innate talent, drive, and effort that gets them noticed and recruited, by the clubs you mention and colleges.

The clubs have not built the players. It's quite the opposite.

.. if a kid that leaves McLean at 18 to play at UNC had stayed at gunston rather than leave at 13 do you think they would be going to UNC?

If the player didn’t leave Gunston would McLean have had as talented a team? Did McLean fundamentally change the player creating the opportunity or did the exposure that McLean offered create the opportunity? At some point UNC had to make a choice for a player and in that moment it is WHO the player fundamentally is a person and as a soccer player that makes the biggest difference.

They went to the club for the recruiting platform, not to "be developed." Whomever worked with that fictitious kid at Gunston up to U13 did a great job in teaching them the basic skills needed to make it at the ECNL level. The player had the talent and displayed the effort needed to be recruit-level. I think that same player would be recruited whether they were at McLean, BRYC, or FCV.

If you are taking your kid at 13 to a club to be recruited and not developed you are a crazy person.

Stop taking points to their extreme. Of course the kid will learn new things at the club, the main point is that this is available both within those clubs and at other non-ECNL clubs and private training. The difference is the platform and connections. If you think those clubs “made those players,” you are crazy. Or a staffer.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Replace "teams" with "clubs" in the PP.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Remember that BRYC developed those players long BEFORE it was an ECNL team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Remember that BRYC developed those players long BEFORE it was an ECNL team.

People forget that ECNL is only a platform and that moving a team or club to ECNL does not magically transform them into better players.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Northern Virginia ECNL Clubs Total Points

BRYC 139
McLean 129
Vda 91
Loudoun 56

Loudoun

McLean and BRYC are doing great.

Stop making fun of Loudoun!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Northern Virginia ECNL Clubs Total Points

BRYC 139
McLean 129
Vda 91
Loudoun 56

Loudoun

McLean and BRYC are doing great.

Stop making fun of Loudoun!

Who is the ECNL Director at Loudoun

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Remember that BRYC developed those players long BEFORE it was an ECNL team.

What does that have to do with anything?

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Most of these players have been with numerous clubs. And most of these players are getting some money, but not a full ride. It all depends on what a player (and her family) is looking for at the next level. Playing time? Better school than they would have gotten into without soccer? Top DI program?

Class of 2020


Olivia Migli - Duke
Victoria Haugen - Virginia Tech
Ellie Wheeler - Penn State
Alexis Theoret - UVA
Tori Powell - Virginia Tech
Jenna Daunt - Navy (plays for BRYC now)
Carrie McIntire - Wake Forest
Kassidy Borden - Navy (started at Loudoun...would have gotten a scholarship to Navy if she stayed there as well)
Kenna Zier - William & Mary
Nicole Sellers - William & Mary


Class of 2019

Sydney Ash - Virginia Tech (started at Loudoun. Would have gotten a scholarship if she stayed).
Cassidy Brown - Virginia Tech (started at Loudoun. Would have gotten a scholarship if she stayed).
Darrian Burnett - Virginia Tech (started at Loudoun. Would have gotten a scholarship if she stayed).
Kristina Skulte - Duquesne
Kayleigh Shackford - William & Mary
Madeleine Hayes - William & Mary
Meaghan Bornholdt - Army (started at BRYC and went to FCV for maybe 2 years. Uncommitted.)
Ella Gantman - Princeton (Really a DC Stoddert player. Caught the eye of many scouts while there through ODP. Went to FCV for a year. No longer there. With McLean now. Committed to Miami initially).
Gretchen Bennett - Boston University
Holly Weber - Virginia Tech
Lauren Sproat - Christopher Newport University
Sarah Philip - West Chester University (started at Loudoun)
Kristen Guiney - Army
Mallory Pasco - Salisbury University
Brianna Robinson - Virginia Wesleyan
Macy Monticello - Univ. of Wisconsin
Savannah Berry - Univ. of Rochester (started at Loudoun).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Remember that BRYC developed those players long BEFORE it was an ECNL team.

What does that have to do with anything?

The point is obviously that top-25 college team players can come from non-ECNL and non-DA clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Remember that BRYC developed those players long BEFORE it was an ECNL team.

What does that have to do with anything?

The point is obviously that top-25 college team players can come from non-ECNL and non-DA clubs.

Oh, you were going for the low hanging fruit --- glad you got a chance to post that insightful comment.
#Basic

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't say any club is putting more in certain schools, every club has spells where there are players going to top schools and then spells where they are going to mid level schools, McLean are going to have a ton of top recruits in the 2019-2020 classes, BRYC Will follow that up with amazing 2021-2022 classes. FCV has plenty of very good recruits heading to college this summer.

BRYC has a lot of top recruits in college right now, including the big 10 player of the year & USYNT Player Kaleigh Riehl at Penn State.

Really, like who (besides Riehl) --- I checked the their website, not a lot (if any) of girls at high end top 25 schools right now ---- which is where I would expect to find top recruits. Is their website info inaccurate?

In the top 25 right now BRYC players
Vanderbilt - Myra Konte
Penn State - Kayleigh Riehl
Princeton - Natalie Larkin
Tennessee - Kelsey Kiley & Amy Thomson

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So, an average of 1.25 / players per year --- OK.
Is that "a lot"? I guess it could be --- it doesn't seem that impressive though, but then again there are probably only about 625 (approximately) spots on top 25 teams nationwide.
It'd be interesting to see how that compares to other clubs in the area --- that number might be more impressive than it appears to me.

There are 163 DA and ECNL teams. So if top 25 level talent were evenly distributed among those 163 teams you would expect 4 players from each team to be playing top 25 soccer.

Remember that BRYC developed those players long BEFORE it was an ECNL team.

People forget that ECNL is only a platform and that moving a team or club to ECNL does not magically transform them into better players.

Fair enough, but doesn't it give a chance for players to showcase in front of colleges? I agree being on a weaker team is a disadvantage, but it's not necessarily insurmountable. Plus, those players can play against better competition, which may improve their abilities.

[Anonymous]

Virginia ECNL Clubs Total Points

BRYC 149
Richmond United 138
McLean 129
Vda 92
Loudoun 56