Shooting in Reston

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to the dog? Why was he separated from the family?

Probably a precaution. I notified Animal Allies and asked them to call and if the dog is still there, to find an emergency foster.

Thank you. What a heartbreaking story and the fact that the family pet is in a concrete cage somewhere makes it even worse.

A dog in a concrete cage is so much more important than two dead humans. People befor animals you idiot.

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It boggles my mind that some on here are zeroing in on the child’s loss of his dog, over the child’s violent loss of his parents.

I love animals, but it’s proof of how emotionally stunted “dog people” are.

There is nothing anyone can do to get the child his parents back, or change what happened.
There is a possibility that his dog can be made sure to be well taken care, and available for him to be with it should it be possible in the future.

Perhaps that is why some people are talking about it.

This. My own kids love our dogs. In a horrible situation like this one I would think that it would be a great comfort to the family (and the boy in particular) to know that the dog was being cared for personally in a loving foster home.

The family has a f**ked up teenager to deal with, the traumatic death of two family members, and a traumatized adult child and 9 year old child. I suspect they may be a teensy bit overwhelmed and are not thinking of whether or not Phideaux is in a "loving foster home."

A likely scenario. Which is probably why PPs brought it up. Hoping the dog doesn't get lost in the shuffle. A lot of bad things happened, lots of bad decisions - here's one more thing we should try not to F up if we can help it.

Fairfax County has a kill shelter, so the dog probably doesn't have long.

It's being looked into and handled today. I've made sure of it. And Fairfax County has been revamped and my vet said that most of the animals get adopted. It's not what it used to be.

I had wondered about the dog. But not because I think it's more important then the kids, come on, who would think that? If the boy and girl were attached to their dog, then it would likely be a source of comfort to have the dog back.

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Today’s print copy of the Washington Post has an obituary (the paid kind, not the staff written sort) for Scott Fricker but not Buckley. His name is the one listed in bold, and hers is not listed at all except noting that her life was also cut short and the upcoming memorial service is for them both. Biographical details are only of Scott, and it referekcesnwishes of the Fricker family. It seems very sad the two families could not come together and do a joint obituary.

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Anonymous wrote:As provocative as all of this neo nazi stuff is, the guy shot his girlfriend's parents because they had forbidden her to see him anymore.

Good luck with this. It's the truth, but you won't get through to a lot of the folk on this board. The Mom also called his school. To him, these people were in the process of destroying the only parts of his life that brought him happiness. At 17, the neo-nazi stuff was simply a cry for help. He was playing neo-nazi because it was provocative, but not an actual neo-nazi.

Unfortunately, it appears to me that the deceased woman's actions in the weeks prior to the shooting were a catalyst for what ultimately occurred. The fault is entirely the boy's, of course, since he fired the gun but it is entirely probable that a different, less antagonistic approach by the mother with the daughter and her boyfriend would have meant that both of the deceased would be alive now.

As time goes on and this case moves to prosecution we will learn more background. I will be interested in learning more about the dynamic between the two children. Most of the posts assume that the boy was the dominant figure in the relationship and that could be because he has exhibited these preferences that are so horrible, which makes him an easy target. But I wonder what compelled him to be in the house when she could just as easily have left the house?

All around it is a tragic incident and my heart breaks for the little boy who lost his parents in such a senseless act. That poor child.

Love the armchair quarterbacks. You have no idea what happened so stop speculating.

The only thing we know for sure is this boy had access to a gun. The gun's owner is the catalyst. Without the gun it's just another bad breakup.

Exactly this. Also amazing to me how many blame the girl’s parents, most specifically the mom, but say nothing about the boy’s parents. Almost impossible they were not the best positioned to prevent this.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Today’s print copy of the Washington Post has an obituary (the paid kind, not the staff written sort) for Scott Fricker but not Buckley. His name is the one listed in bold, and hers is not listed at all except noting that her life was also cut short and the upcoming memorial service is for them both. Biographical details are only of Scott, and it referekcesnwishes of the Fricker family. It seems very sad the two families could not come together and do a joint obituary.

Scott was one of the most kind and compassionate people you could meet and his good qualities have been overshadowed by Buckley in the news. He was beloved just as much as she was. He had a Ph.D and while we know about her law degree, that is rarely mentioned. He had a job too. She was a non-practicing lawyer who followed her mom's example and worked with the elderly-very noble and noteworthy, but his life mattered too. He raised a stepdaughter as his own even though the biological father was living, and he ended up dead. Let his life be celebrated too. (I knew both by the way and both were good people but so far he has been known as the husband of the saint. Let him have some recognition. )

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OMG what is wrong with the PPs who are blaming the mother who was killed. She and her husband did what she could to try to separate her daughter from a kid who was obviously troubled. Are those of you who are criticizing her actually parents? Or is this thread drawing weird trolls trying (and failing) to defend the shooter? It's completely disgusting. The parents paid the ultimate price for trying to defend their child and there is nothing that can be said to justify or rationalize the murders committed by this boy.

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We are a Terraset ES family and received an email this morning indicating that the children were Terraset kids formerly. FCPS is planning on providing resources for children who need them.

The whole thing seems more tragic and preventable the more details trickle out. I know none of us like to think this could happen to us but it is so clear and so sobering that it could.

Devastating.

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Anonymous wrote:Today’s print copy of the Washington Post has an obituary (the paid kind, not the staff written sort) for Scott Fricker but not Buckley. His name is the one listed in bold, and hers is not listed at all except noting that her life was also cut short and the upcoming memorial service is for them both. Biographical details are only of Scott, and it referekcesnwishes of the Fricker family. It seems very sad the two families could not come together and do a joint obituary.

You cannot find goodness in anything, can you? Some families do not advertise obituaries. The obit was well written and very tasteful.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the school poster really a reporter trying to dig for details? Sketchy.

That was my first thought. The other poster who wants the parents to be paraded publicly into a tell all, right now, right away, is also fishing for information.

The poster who said that the shooter's dad is on Facebook. Has the shooter even been identified?

DP. The shooter hasn't been officially identified but you can find his name, if you know how to Google. Seems to have come from a large white-collar Italian family. Republicans, of course.

That's really uncalled for. I'm a Republican and have raised two lovely children who will give back to society and have the judgment not to engage in anything Neo-Nazi. When you post things like this you sound bigoted.

NP, it's not uncalled for. Republican politicians these days, including our president, very clearly express sympathy and (at least) soft support for neo-nazis, white supremacists, and others who have disdain for minorities. It's part of the GOP base these days, and they know it - they know they need their votes.

So while YOU as an individual may be raising your family to have kindness and respect for all, you also belong to a circle of the venn diagram of people who back these vile scum. So do I, in a different way, as someone of Italian descent (their name does appear to be Italian). But I didn't choose to be Italian - people choose to be Republican, and support bigoted Republican politicians (or politicians with a hell of a lot of sympathy for such hatred)

Thank you--beautifully said!

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Anonymous wrote:Today’s print copy of the Washington Post has an obituary (the paid kind, not the staff written sort) for Scott Fricker but not Buckley. His name is the one listed in bold, and hers is not listed at all except noting that her life was also cut short and the upcoming memorial service is for them both. Biographical details are only of Scott, and it referekcesnwishes of the Fricker family. It seems very sad the two families could not come together and do a joint obituary.

I'm sure the families are dealing with their grief day by day. Speculating that they didn't do this or that in an obituary is odd.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a Terraset ES family and received an email this morning indicating that the children were Terraset kids formerly. FCPS is planning on providing resources for children who need them.

The whole thing seems more tragic and preventable the more details trickle out. I know none of us like to think this could happen to us but it is so clear and so sobering that it could.

Devastating.

I believe that is where the 10 year old attended, not the 16 year old girl and the shooter. They aren’t in elementary school.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a Terraset ES family and received an email this morning indicating that the children were Terraset kids formerly. FCPS is planning on providing resources for children who need them.

The whole thing seems more tragic and preventable the more details trickle out. I know none of us like to think this could happen to us but it is so clear and so sobering that it could.

Devastating.

I believe that is where the 10 year old attended, not the 16 year old girl and the shooter. They aren’t in elementary school.

Yes, the shooter lived in Lorton.

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Anonymous wrote:What happened to the dog? Why was he separated from the family?

Probably a precaution. I notified Animal Allies and asked them to call and if the dog is still there, to find an emergency foster.

Thank you. What a heartbreaking story and the fact that the family pet is in a concrete cage somewhere makes it even worse.

A dog in a concrete cage is so much more important than two dead humans. People befor animals you idiot.

+1

It boggles my mind that some on here are zeroing in on the child’s loss of his dog, over the child’s violent loss of his parents.

I love animals, but it’s proof of how emotionally stunted “dog people” are.

There is nothing anyone can do to get the child his parents back, or change what happened.
There is a possibility that his dog can be made sure to be well taken care, and available for him to be with it should it be possible in the future.

Perhaps that is why some people are talking about it.

This. My own kids love our dogs. In a horrible situation like this one I would think that it would be a great comfort to the family (and the boy in particular) to know that the dog was being cared for personally in a loving foster home.

The family has a f**ked up teenager to deal with, the traumatic death of two family members, and a traumatized adult child and 9 year old child. I suspect they may be a teensy bit overwhelmed and are not thinking of whether or not Phideaux is in a "loving foster home."

A likely scenario. Which is probably why PPs brought it up. Hoping the dog doesn't get lost in the shuffle. A lot of bad things happened, lots of bad decisions - here's one more thing we should try not to F up if we can help it.

Fairfax County has a kill shelter, so the dog probably doesn't have long.

It's being looked into and handled today. I've made sure of it. And Fairfax County has been revamped and my vet said that most of the animals get adopted. It's not what it used to be.

I had wondered about the dog. But not because I think it's more important then the kids, come on, who would think that? If the boy and girl were attached to their dog, then it would likely be a source of comfort to have the dog back.

+1 Absolutely. Those kids have lost so much already. They shouldn't have to lose their beloved family pet, too. Obviously the family has an overwhelming amount to deal with now so it's nice that kind people are stepping up to arrange a loving foster home for the dog on their behalf.

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Unfortunately, it appears to me that the deceased woman's actions in the weeks prior to the shooting were a catalyst for what ultimately occurred. The fault is entirely the boy's, of course, since he fired the gun but it is entirely probable that a different, less antagonistic approach by the mother with the daughter and her boyfriend would have meant that both of the deceased would be alive now.

As time goes on and this case moves to prosecution we will learn more background. I will be interested in learning more about the dynamic between the two children. Most of the posts assume that the boy was the dominant figure in the relationship and that could be because he has exhibited these preferences that are so horrible, which makes him an easy target. But I wonder what compelled him to be in the house when she could just as easily have left the house?

All around it is a tragic incident and my heart breaks for the little boy who lost his parents in such a senseless act. That poor child.

+1. My thought as well.

The boy was unstable. I think if you are dealing with someone who is unstable and may have a propensity for violence, you don't act the way she did. You handle the situation quietly, maybe send your kid out of town for a while to get daughter away from the boy. You don't embarrass and humiliate the unstable person.

+1 As another poster said much further back in the thread, common sense dictates that you don't stick a stick into a hornets nest and start shaking it around. The entire situation escalated rapidly when it should have been de-escalating. When I read the paper the first day with the statement by the mom's mother about the "intervention" they staged and the letter to the school I thought "uh oh". Those usually are not the best tactics to use when working with TWO (both the boy and girl) unstable and high risk children. And, yes, I work with unstable and high risk children.

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Found this on another forum:

“I'm only going to say it once: I really do know this guy and I'm not a troll.

At work, we joke around all of the time. All of us joked about him being a school-shooter type of guy and we even said it to his face and he wasn't mad, so when he asked me if he should buy a car or gun, I jokingly said, "Just get a gun, so you can rob someone and take their car." That's just how it was.”

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It sounds as though the mom had had some serious reservations about her daughter's boyfriend but had only recently found out about the neo nazi stuff.

The mom figured that she would tell the school, tell the boy's parents, tell her friends on Facebook, get her own daughter to a counselor so that this would have to be dealt with while the kids were out of school and apart from each other. And there was an adult presence in the home (parents off work and adult relatives visiting).

The boy hadn't committed a crime at that point so the mom couldn't call the police on him.