Remember when 38-year-old Jerry Seinfeld dated a 17-year-old high schooler?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

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[Anonymous]

Didn't she go to GW for a semester or two?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

Yes. Grow up, then maybe you could be in a relationship with someone your own age instead of creeping on your daughters’ friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

Yes. Grow up, then maybe you could be in a relationship with someone your own age instead of creeping on your daughters’ friends.

I'm grown up, older than your parents, probably, and not a man. I'm explaining what life looked like in the 50s through 80s. Every generation thinks they invented change. It's a process born out of either necessity or the lack of such. 50 years ago, it was very economic and moral to marry young. And, no, it wasn't creepy at the time- there's many reasons there is, now.

Every single one of my aunts, in an upper middle class lifestyle, dated and married quite amazingly young, sometimes right out of high school. I didn't know as many from my high school days but there were some.
What about Charles and Diana? No one questioned that union at the time. By the time they were married, she was just and he was 32, but high school ends earlier in the UK, so even at 17, when they weren't yet dating, she wouldn't have even been in school. He met her when she was 16 and found her "appealing." ( Not my words)

How about Macron? Isn't that weirder than any example given here? No one questioned that? I think I would have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

Yes. Grow up, then maybe you could be in a relationship with someone your own age instead of creeping on your daughters’ friends.

I'm grown up, older than your parents, probably, and not a man. I'm explaining what life looked like in the 50s through 80s. Every generation thinks they invented change. It's a process born out of either necessity or the lack of such. 50 years ago, it was very economic and moral to marry young. And, no, it wasn't creepy at the time- there's many reasons there is, now.

Every single one of my aunts, in an upper middle class lifestyle, dated and married quite amazingly young, sometimes right out of high school. I didn't know as many from my high school days but there were some.
What about Charles and Diana? No one questioned that union at the time. By the time they were married, she was just and he was 32, but high school ends earlier in the UK, so even at 17, when they weren't yet dating, she wouldn't have even been in school. He met her when she was 16 and found her "appealing." ( Not my words)

How about Macron? Isn't that weirder than any example given here? No one questioned that? I think I would have.

1. It'a myth that large numbers of girls were marrying int hei teens to men that were 10+ years older than them, back in the day " It didn't happen all the time. And even if it were we learn from the past mistakes f previous generations we don't continue them just because.

2. I also have family members who married at 17, none of their husbands were in their 30s, none of them think it's a good idea for 17 year olds to be married or be in relationships with 30 somethings.

3. The Charles and Di situation didn't work out so well

4. I know plenty of people who were disturbed by the Macron situation when it came to light, a woman doing it doesn't make it okay , but nice attempt at whataboutism.

5. You really need to examine why you are fighting so hard for 30 and 40 year olds to be able to date and marry teenagers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

Yes. Grow up, then maybe you could be in a relationship with someone your own age instead of creeping on your daughters’ friends.

I'm grown up, older than your parents, probably, and not a man. I'm explaining what life looked like in the 50s through 80s. Every generation thinks they invented change. It's a process born out of either necessity or the lack of such. 50 years ago, it was very economic and moral to marry young. And, no, it wasn't creepy at the time- there's many reasons there is, now.

Every single one of my aunts, in an upper middle class lifestyle, dated and married quite amazingly young, sometimes right out of high school. I didn't know as many from my high school days but there were some.
What about Charles and Diana? No one questioned that union at the time. By the time they were married, she was just and he was 32, but high school ends earlier in the UK, so even at 17, when they weren't yet dating, she wouldn't have even been in school. He met her when she was 16 and found her "appealing." ( Not my words)

How about Macron? Isn't that weirder than any example given here? No one questioned that? I think I would have.

1. It'a myth that large numbers of girls were marrying int hei teens to men that were 10+ years older than them, back in the day " It didn't happen all the time. And even if it were we learn from the past mistakes f previous generations we don't continue them just because.

2. I also have family members who married at 17, none of their husbands were in their 30s, none of them think it's a good idea for 17 year olds to be married or be in relationships with 30 somethings.

3. The Charles and Di situation didn't work out so well

4. I know plenty of people who were disturbed by the Macron situation when it came to light, a woman doing it doesn't make it okay , but nice attempt at whataboutism.

5. You really need to examine why you are fighting so hard for 30 and 40 year olds to be able to date and marry teenagers.

I'm not fighting for it. At all. It's a bad idea. I just have a problem with shallow, uncritical thought informing immediate knee jerk reactive answers to information presented.
And you are still incorrect with your arguments. Why not just call Jerry and argue with him? Who the eff cares?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

Yes. Grow up, then maybe you could be in a relationship with someone your own age instead of creeping on your daughters’ friends.

I'm grown up, older than your parents, probably, and not a man. I'm explaining what life looked like in the 50s through 80s. Every generation thinks they invented change. It's a process born out of either necessity or the lack of such. 50 years ago, it was very economic and moral to marry young. And, no, it wasn't creepy at the time- there's many reasons there is, now.

Every single one of my aunts, in an upper middle class lifestyle, dated and married quite amazingly young, sometimes right out of high school. I didn't know as many from my high school days but there were some.
What about Charles and Diana? No one questioned that union at the time. By the time they were married, she was just and he was 32, but high school ends earlier in the UK, so even at 17, when they weren't yet dating, she wouldn't have even been in school. He met her when she was 16 and found her "appealing." ( Not my words)

How about Macron? Isn't that weirder than any example given here? No one questioned that? I think I would have.

“Welcome to the 90s, Mr. Banks!!” 🤣🤣🤣

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

And? It doesn't make it okay. Not many years before that, black people had to sit at the back of the bus.

Not comparable. One is racism, the other is basic sociology. And it was ok, accepted, and actually expected. The point is dating and marrying young wasn't considered to be a problem. Now it is as childhood and maturity, along with educational opportunities and norms have elongated, lifespan has increased, and women's rights have improved.

It’s not the dating/marrying young that is the problem... it’s the youth combined with the RIDICULOUS age gap. Any 38 year old man messing with a HIGH SCHOOL student is a perverted creep. Any parents that are cool with this are also perverted creeps who don’t care about their daughter.

Also sociological, regardless of anyone's opinions today. If she were 2 years older dating a 40 year old, would it still be perverted? Happens every day! It not for me, but it wasn't unusual.

Yes. Grow up, then maybe you could be in a relationship with someone your own age instead of creeping on your daughters’ friends.

I'm grown up, older than your parents, probably, and not a man. I'm explaining what life looked like in the 50s through 80s. Every generation thinks they invented change. It's a process born out of either necessity or the lack of such. 50 years ago, it was very economic and moral to marry young. And, no, it wasn't creepy at the time- there's many reasons there is, now.

Every single one of my aunts, in an upper middle class lifestyle, dated and married quite amazingly young, sometimes right out of high school. I didn't know as many from my high school days but there were some.
What about Charles and Diana? No one questioned that union at the time. By the time they were married, she was just and he was 32, but high school ends earlier in the UK, so even at 17, when they weren't yet dating, she wouldn't have even been in school. He met her when she was 16 and found her "appealing." ( Not my words)

How about Macron? Isn't that weirder than any example given here? No one questioned that? I think I would have.

1. It'a myth that large numbers of girls were marrying int hei teens to men that were 10+ years older than them, back in the day " It didn't happen all the time. And even if it were we learn from the past mistakes f previous generations we don't continue them just because.

2. I also have family members who married at 17, none of their husbands were in their 30s, none of them think it's a good idea for 17 year olds to be married or be in relationships with 30 somethings.

3. The Charles and Di situation didn't work out so well

4. I know plenty of people who were disturbed by the Macron situation when it came to light, a woman doing it doesn't make it okay , but nice attempt at whataboutism.

5. You really need to examine why you are fighting so hard for 30 and 40 year olds to be able to date and marry teenagers.

I'm not fighting for it. At all. It's a bad idea. I just have a problem with shallow, uncritical thought informing immediate knee jerk reactive answers to information presented.
And you are still incorrect with your arguments. Why not just call Jerry and argue with him? Who the eff cares?

DP. I don’t know what argument you *think* you’re making here, but it is wildly unsuccessful and not supported by anything resembling facts. Anecdotes about your aunties and whining about Charles and Macron notwithstanding...

[Anonymous]

This is really darn funny,

[Anonymous]

Every time Seinfeld trends on twitter someone posts about this and it reminds me of this thread.

[Anonymous]

I think the fact that she was still in high school is crazy. Did they go to prom?

My husband is a (now retired) Marine and I remember when we were first married (25 years ago) a lot of Marines married very young--many 18-19 year old Marines married to 17 year old girls. Apparently at the base medical clinic, anyone under the age of 18 was seen in the pediatrics department. My husband would have one of his Marine's ask for the afternoon off so he could "take his wife to the pediatrician."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

That’s not true. The average age of marriage for women was lowest in the fifties, when it was 20. Seventeen year olds getting married was not common at all.

[Anonymous]

Imagine thinking this is okay. Seriously some people have the wildest opinions. And you know they will never acknowledge the harm that can come to a girl being manipulated by an older man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you realize that before around 1974 ish, women married at 17, 18, 19? All the time.

That’s not true. The average age of marriage for women was lowest in the fifties, when it was 20. Seventeen year olds getting married was not common at all.

According to the Census Bureau, the median (not average) age of marriage for women in 1950 appears to be about 20. That means half the women who married were older and half were younger. The first PP is correct that prior to 1974 it was common for women 17-19 year olds to be married.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/time-series/demo/families-and-households/ms-2.pdf