I'm watching Trump's news conference right now on CNN and..

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is now trying to walk back his lies about having met Putin and having face-to-face discussions with him. His dishonesty is compulsive and pathological.


Change that to HRC's dishonesty is compulsive and pathological and you would be accurate.

Face it we have two candidates who both lie - Hillary does it intentionally and Trump, for the most part, does it because he has no filter between his mouth and his brain.

You give him too much credit. He is also plain dumb when it comes to political matters. I think a POTUS needs a filter, don't you? Isn't that why Biden kind of gets made fun of.. because he also sort of shoots his mouth off without thinking.


I agree with most of what you say. The issue is why he appeals so much to millions of Americans. And if you think it is racism, you are just plain wrong though I am sure that there are some who are racists. I say this because I know people who are voting for Trump and they are not racist by any stretch of the imagination. They are just disgusted with Hillary Clinton and the establishment and feel that something must be done to shake things up and they know that Hillary sure as hell will not do it.

A couple of them actually voted for Obama.

Until there is an an attempt to understand why these people find Trump appealing without attributing it to pat answers like uninformed voters and bigots, you and others will continue to be frustrated by his popularity.

But don't you think voting for someone who is not competent for the position simply for the purpose of change is dangerous? Some of his supporters are hoping that his advisers and other seasoned Repubs will reign him in, but as a POTUS, what he says on national TV and how he says it matters.


Again, I agree with you that having an uninformed person as president is unwise. I also think that having an individual like Hillary who is well informed but has terrible judgement and is dishonest to boot is also very troublesome.

I really don't know what the answer is because IMO we have two very flawed candidates. FYI, I am a Bernie supporter who has voted for Democrats forever and a day but I will not vote for Hillary.

If Trump becomes president, it will be because we presented the country with an unacceptable alternative to Trump. It is not because of racism or uninformed voters or any such thing although I am sure that Hillary supporters will blame it on those factors and on the liberals who refused to vote for her.


I'm not convinced you're a Sanders supporter. I'm also not convinced you're a liberal. With Hillary, you know that you will get some of the things for which Bernie advocates. With Trump, a smart, thoughtful, intelligent person knows they get nothing for which Bernie adocates, and everything he doesn't. Just saying.
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Cheap federal money without good product in return is bad; company should fail.
Workers from India: they are welcome. Why should I get the job and not the guy from India? Just because of an accident of birth?
Their need is probably greater anyway.


Because your code is better. But since you cost more, you don't get the job and the company gets bad, ugly code.

Yes, and Trump has the same attitude regarding his companies that use foreign workers and outsource. PP's company is not doing anything different to what Trump does. Perhaps the leaders of the companies feel the same way Trump does about it -- "I shouldn't be able to do it, but I did."
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Starting next week, he will already be getting national security briefings (as they do for all presidential candidates). I got a chill down my spine already when I heard in on NPR. He will blurt out something or other to score a point. National security people are also worried but can't do anything about it because they can not seem to favor a candidate over the other.


They might not have to worry. Apparently Mr Trump has a very short attention span and isn't able to focus on much that isn't about him.

All they need to do is present the boring stuff first, and let it go on for 15 minutes or so without stroking his ego, and he'll get bored and tell them to go.
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Anonymous wrote:I honestly cannot believe the mental gymnastics people are going through to support trump's statement to Russia. I can't believe this man is going to start getting security briefings. God help us all.


Exactly

He's cheering on cyberwarfare. yes, I get that you can't hack the server now. But saying "hey Russians, it's ok if you are engaging in this criminal activity as long as you can now turn around and possibly use it to my benefit" (gist of what he said) - that's not ok. And even pence and Ryan came out strongly against this nonsense.
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I can sympathize with those who just oppose Hillary for moral reasons. Say anti-abortion or pro- gun people. I disagree but I respect that.

What I don't understand is those who wanted A, B, and C, were offered A and B, and now are saying they don't want any of it. My 2 year old does that: he wants 3 candies, I offer one and he throws it on the floor in protest. And then he gets none.
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I'm pretty sure after GWB left office, the majority of Republicans were (and still technically are) very anti-NSA. "It's big government, they don't need to know about my affairs, stick it to The Man," etc.

And now, not only are Republicans excited about the potential HRC email scandal and urge the FBI to open more and more investigations (despite every single one not turning up anything damning), but they're also on board with Russia maybe having stolen classified American emails and want them to release them to the entire world because Trump suggested it?
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And in the meantime, there were apparently eight articles in the WP on the third day of the Democratic convention ........... seven of the eight was on Trump's call for Russia to release the emails that Clinton deleted if Russia did, in fact, have them.

Today, he was apparently on Fox saying that he was merely being sarcastic - whether he was or not.

From Trump's standpoint "mission accomplished" because not one of his supporters are going to be fazed by what he said, even as he got hours of media coverage for free during the day and into the evening.

Trump played the media .................
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^^Oh, and he got Hillary's emails and the fact that she deleted 30,000 of them back in the news with all of the implications as to her honesty and trustworthiness which is her major hurdle with the electorate.
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Anonymous wrote:We really should stop throwing the word treason around. It has a very specific definition in the US which you may want to look up what it means.

For the umpteenth time, one cannot hack a non-existent server. If the Russians or anyone else did hack the server before it was removed from operation and wiped clean, they have the information already. If the emails are private there are no national security implications. If they do contain non-private emails that are classified that she deleted she obviously lied.

IMO, and it is pure conjecture, I think there were communications about the Clinton Foundation.

I suspect there are Republicans who believe that she deleted compromising emails. I have no idea whether she did or not. But the Clinton campaign seems to be concerned.

Leon Panetta, former head of the CIA, apparently is going to talk about Trump's remarks. IMO, it will play into Trumps's hands and the media and Trump will be talking about Panetta's remarks non-stop about this tomorrow.

Trump's supporters and most Republicans will not be detracted by Panetta or anyone else. For them, even those who don't really like Trump, the greater evil by far is Clinton. It is the polar opposite of what some Democrats who don't care for Hillary feel - Trump is the greater evil.


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Sadly that didn't stop the dishonest media by pushing this false narrative to deflect. Hillary's servers have been wiped clean and offline for a year or two. How can Trump "invite" Russians to hack them? I guess Russians can fly to New York, sneak in to Hillary's basement and steal the empty hard drives?
Sooooo, is it presidential to joke about such a thing? I can't imagine any of our past presidents even joking about such a thing in a public setting.
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is why he appeals so much to millions of Americans.


That answer is easy. People with a filter a FUN! They make great TV. They are the tactless uncle it's fun to watch at Thanksgiving. He says whatever the crap he wants. If he gets called on it, it's all "Oh, I was just kidding... .can't you take a joke?" It's amusing, until it is directed at you.

People with no filter are a lot less fun to work with.

They are even less fun to work with when they have a job in the public eye, where building relationships with others is important.
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Anonymous wrote:And in the meantime, there were apparently eight articles in the WP on the third day of the Democratic convention ........... seven of the eight was on Trump's call for Russia to release the emails that Clinton deleted if Russia did, in fact, have them.

Today, he was apparently on Fox saying that he was merely being sarcastic - whether he was or not.

From Trump's standpoint "mission accomplished" because not one of his supporters are going to be fazed by what he said, even as he got hours of media coverage for free during the day and into the evening.

Trump played the media .................


I don't think the free media coverage played as well with independents and undecideds as you and he may have hoped.
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Anonymous wrote:The issue is why he appeals so much to millions of Americans.


That answer is easy. People with a filter a FUN! They make great TV. They are the tactless uncle it's fun to watch at Thanksgiving. He says whatever the crap he wants. If he gets called on it, it's all "Oh, I was just kidding... .can't you take a joke?" It's amusing, until it is directed at you.

People with no filter are a lot less fun to work with.

They are even less fun to work with when they have a job in the public eye, where building relationships with others is important.

Most mature people understand that there is a time, place, subject matter to be funny. I am teaching my kids this. Trump hasn't learned this yet?
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Anonymous wrote:And in the meantime, there were apparently eight articles in the WP on the third day of the Democratic convention ........... seven of the eight was on Trump's call for Russia to release the emails that Clinton deleted if Russia did, in fact, have them.

Today, he was apparently on Fox saying that he was merely being sarcastic - whether he was or not.

From Trump's standpoint "mission accomplished" because not one of his supporters are going to be fazed by what he said, even as he got hours of media coverage for free during the day and into the evening.

Trump played the media .................


I don't think the free media coverage played as well with independents and undecideds as you and he may have hoped.


I have no idea how it would have played with independents. But his moniker of "crooked Hillary" and referencing the private server and emails are meant to reinforce the distrust with which Clinton is viewed by almost 70% of the electorate. If she loses the election, it will be because she is so distrusted.

In the meantime, the media (CNN) is still talking about Trump instead of yesterday's events at the convention.

BTW, I am not a Trump supporter - would never vote for him - but I am at times in awe of how he is able to manipulate the media to get tens of millions of dollars of free publicity. I know those who dislike him can't see beyond that dislike.
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This latest turn of events is just ludicrous. Make America great again... by getting in bed with Russia? A massive eyeroll to that.
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Anonymous wrote:And in the meantime, there were apparently eight articles in the WP on the third day of the Democratic convention ........... seven of the eight was on Trump's call for Russia to release the emails that Clinton deleted if Russia did, in fact, have them.

Today, he was apparently on Fox saying that he was merely being sarcastic - whether he was or not.

From Trump's standpoint "mission accomplished" because not one of his supporters are going to be fazed by what he said, even as he got hours of media coverage for free during the day and into the evening.

Trump played the media .................


I don't think the free media coverage played as well with independents and undecideds as you and he may have hoped.


I have no idea how it would have played with independents. But his moniker of "crooked Hillary" and referencing the private server and emails are meant to reinforce the distrust with which Clinton is viewed by almost 70% of the electorate. If she loses the election, it will be because she is so distrusted.

In the meantime, the media (CNN) is still talking about Trump instead of yesterday's events at the convention.

BTW, I am not a Trump supporter - would never vote for him - but I am at times in awe of how he is able to manipulate the media to get tens of millions of dollars of free publicity. I know those who dislike him can't see beyond that dislike.

He knows how to spin the media, and get himself out there. He's been doing it for a long time. It's funny, though, he claims he hates the media but he always courts them.
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