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| so is anyone ACTUALLY going to the nurse in? |
| yes ma'am |
I nursed DD 1 for 13 months and DD 2 for 17 and was never bothered by anyone, not even given a side eye (or maybe I didn't notice it) so no, I don't think people were trying to look at me or notice me. It's hard to argue this doesn't ever happen when you read some of the attitudes expressed on this thread though. If it's true that the general public doesn't care about nursing moms (which would be GREAT) then women like Nori wouldn't get asked to leave when nursing, no? That is how all this started. |
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You -- or others on this thread who keep posting this -- are determined to say that when anyone thinks breastfeeding in public should be done discreetly, it is code for not wanting to see anyone in public breastfeeding. That is not correct no matter how many times you turn it around. As soon as you start arguing against that, I turn you off, because that is not my position so I couldn't care less about it.
Ok, so for you that isn't what it means, point taken. So what do you mean when you say women should be discreet? Would you like to work that into the law protecting nursing women? Some sort of legally mandated blanket/cover? Do you really truly run into that many nursing mothers who are eagerly exposing their breasts to you? How much skin showing is ok? Would you like to mandate some legal amount of skin showing? Is it more or less than you ordinarily see when women wear tank tops? Would you like to see women who cannot or will not nurse "discreetly" be subject to legal ramifications? Fines, arrest? |
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This subject was on the Top of tonights 11pm News on one of the local networks. In the storyline "Nursing Dispute" a Smithsonian Spokesperson states "This was a MISTAKE. It was taken care of. It was 2 contractors. All of the Contractors have been retrained that this is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE behavior in public space and anywhere in the Smithsonian." I believe this may have been an honest mistake that had no malicious intent and the fact that the Smithsonian has retrained ALL of the Contractors shows that they are acting in Good Faith and have addressed this concern. Interesting to see how this will all play out.
Peace & Blessings |
| Smithsonian is actually supporting the nurse in, you know... |
| I was surprised that this was the lead story in tonight's 11:00 news -- it even beat out the news of an arrest of a Montgomery County Public School elementary school teacher for alegeduly choking her 1st grade students! |
Of course. What choice do they have. I hope that makes these protesters look even more foolish. |
So basically you are cheering for a group of young nursing mothers who are trying to promote the cause of breastfeeding acceptance to "look foolish?" Why do you have such an axe to grind here? What skin is it off your back if they do this? It's so mean spirited to hope they look foolish, even if you question the need for this or even the motives of some of the women involved. |
They are not promoting the cause of breastfeeding. Yes, I hope they look foolish because their 'nurse-in' is foolish. Re-read the rest of the thread if you don't understand by now. |
| I haven't had time to read through this thread but a similar situation happened to me at a DCPS school a few months ago when a fellow parent complained about me nursing my newborn after I dropped off my older child. The school did not know how to handle it and I had to get the General Counsel involved. He apologized to me but the parent never did. It is amazing how poorly informed the public is regarding these matters. I never had any issues before this with my first child so it was quite upsetting. I will try to see if I can come. |
It may be your opinion that they are not promoting the cause of breastfeeding, but it is my opinion (and I would guess theirs) that they are. I have read the entire thread, am not in any way related to anyone organizing the nurse-in, and still think you are being very petty and mean spirited to wish these women ill will. Take your anger somewhere it makes sense. |
Foolish? You're the fool here. There's nobody protesting. It's just a gathering to educate the general public. You should get informed before saying stupid things like this. You're the one sounding foolish here. |
New poster. A nurse-in is not exactly just a gathering. It is a protest to make a political point. You need to be honest. Also, do you really think the general public (a) doesn't know about this topic, and (b) really cares? I feel so badly for the security guard, I could cry. These guys make about $22k a year. They majority of them are African American, family men, from DC and nearby MD, who are trying to make a basic living with good benefits for their families. I know many of them. You've probably ruined his life to make your point. Congratulations. |
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New poster. A nurse-in is not exactly just a gathering. It is a protest to make a political point.
You need to be honest. Also, do you really think the general public (a) doesn't know about this topic, and (b) really cares? I feel so badly for the security guard, I could cry. These guys make about $22k a year. They majority of them are African American, family men, from DC and nearby MD, who are trying to make a basic living with good benefits for their families. I know many of them. You've probably ruined his life to make your point. Congratulations. First of all, that's over the top. We do not know in any way shape or form that their (there were two guards involved remember...the first one and then the back-up sent to physically intimidate the nursing mother) lives were "ruined." That is conjecture on your part only, nothing more. The guards have not been publicly identified (nor should they be), and we have no idea if they were even reprimanded at work. It sounds like they were re-trained in how to follow the LAW and that is good, no? If one of these guards had asked a disabled person, a white person, and asian person etc to leave when they had a legally protected right to be in the museum you'd be outraged. As it is the level of misogyny in our culture allows many of us to consider what these guards did no big deal. I don't think they should be fired, or suspended, or anything else like that. But they need to know what they did was inappropriate and illegal. And your attitude toward these guards is patronizing and borderlins racist. just because they are African American men who have (relatively) low paying jobs, does not mean they should get away with violating the rights of nursing mothers. You are making assumptions about them you shouldn't. |