Nurse-in at Hirshhorn on 2/12 from 10-12

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My church has a room for nursing mothers and they may only nurse in this room. Of course, a church is private and you can scream, carry on as though your home were in a tree, have nurse-ins (not on church property) and it won't do you a bit of good.

You do realize that LLL was founded by a grounp of Catholic mothers, right? I find your church's policy utterly laughable considering that icons and art featuring the Madonna and Child are a touchpoint of Western cultural history. What a way to disrespect the sacred role of women, particularly the mother of your God.

In Protestant churches we don't have icons that are featuring the Madonna and Child. I go to church to hear the sunday sermon to have spiritual food for the rest of the week, not to see you breastfeeding during the sermon. As for the earlier photo of the nurse in, some of those kids are big and way too old to be nursing. Also, none of the women were anything to look at so I think many of you did this because you are so homely this is the only way you can get attention. So sad. You women need to spruce up and at least try to look feminine and to dress so that you don't look as though you haven't bathed in a few weeks. Yuck!

In any case, the women in my church are happy to suckle their young in the room set aside for them with comfortable couches, chairs, changing tables,whatever. I don't know how they do it but all of them dress well, wear makeup, their hair is combed and they lare dressed appropriately.

Nurse-in feminazis, you are one physically repulsive group of poor excuses for women. Women are supposed to be pretty. Some of them are so ugly they were scary.

oh how christ-like you are. you know you don't have much of an argument when you start insulting a group of women that you know nothing about. what a twelve year old mentality you have. it's all about looks? are you really a christian? it really says something when you're more concerned with how women look, then with what they're feeding their child. there are a dozen scriptures alluding to the beauty of breastfeeding. read your goddamn bible. and don't forget to put on your make-up... you know... so you can look all spruced up and shit.

Not the PP you quoted.

Bible verses that refer to nursing....yes.

Bible verses that refer to the "beauty" of nursing...I don't know off the top of my head. Show me the receipts!

However I do know there are many verses referring to modesty and how a woman should conduct herself. There are also verses referring to nudity and being uncovered. Maybe you should read them. So please let's not bring the Bible in this and cherry pick.

I'm sure Jesus was breastfed. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't done in the immodest fashion that some of you seem to think is okay. And don't show me any artwork drawn by perverts. There are perverts today and there have been perverts since the beginning of time.

[Anonymous]

OK I feel like there are two different extremes talking about this and I'm really trying to see both sides but honestly I do agree that having a Nurse-in was over the top.

I am a mother of two that were breastfed and honestly I felt like breastfeeding was bonding with my infant something I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IN PUBLIC. It has nothing to do with a legal/illegal aspect of it I just think that it is something that should be done privately. Breastfeeding in public is legal and most likely always will be and thats fantastic. But that doesn't mean you have to go out and intentionally look for public places to nurse your child when you know it makes others quite uncomfortable.

Also I have to agree with the PP who said some of these kids are too big to be breastfeeding. Some of those kids looked at least 1.5/2. If your child is old enough to ask for it with words, they are too old to get it. Why on earth would you breastfeed that long? Just FYI most of the more intelligent people I know (ivy league, politics, lawyers, docs) were all formula fed and I think they are doing just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:However I do know there are many verses referring to modesty and how a woman should conduct herself. There are also verses referring to nudity and being uncovered. Maybe you should read them. So please let's not bring the Bible in this and cherry pick.

I'm sure Jesus was breastfed. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't done in the immodest fashion that some of you seem to think is okay. And don't show me any artwork drawn by perverts. There are perverts today and there have been perverts since the beginning of time.

You do realize that the definition of "modesty" that you are referring to is to cover oneself to prevent sexual suggestion. Do you honestly believe that breastfeeding is sexual?

[Anonymous]

I... Just don't get the argument that being able to ask for it is too old. DD has pulled on my shirt since she was 7 mos when hungry. Does that make her too old to nurse? I'm old enough to ask for chicken when I'm hungry. Does that make me too old. Sorry, PP, maybe that's a line in the sand for you but for me it's a logical failure.

I don't think anyone sets out to nurse a toddler or older baby but milk and formula were not put on this planet to provide the nutrition a small child needs in the first three years. Breast milk, which grows with the child's neurological and physical needs, was.

So say you're not comfortable with it but it doesn't change anyone's right to feed their child the way nature intended.

(and for the record, I am a working mom nursing a 12 month old and planning on child led weaning. 12 months ago, I had no idea where we'd land, but I'm glad I have the right to nurse my child when she is hungry.)

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PP, obviously you missed my point of "asking with words". Lifting up your shirt when she is hungry is not what I'm talking about. pretty sure your 7 month old wasn't saying "want milk" when she was hungry.

And I do think that some people do got out looking to nurse in public. They go out to public places during times they know their child will get hungry. Is that not looking to nurse in public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK I feel like there are two different extremes talking about this and I'm really trying to see both sides but honestly I do agree that having a Nurse-in was over the top.

I am a mother of two that were breastfed and honestly I felt like breastfeeding was bonding with my infant something I WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING IN PUBLIC. It has nothing to do with a legal/illegal aspect of it I just think that it is something that should be done privately. Breastfeeding in public is legal and most likely always will be and thats fantastic. But that doesn't mean you have to go out and intentionally look for public places to nurse your child when you know it makes others quite uncomfortable.

Also I have to agree with the PP who said some of these kids are too big to be breastfeeding. Some of those kids looked at least 1.5/2. If your child is old enough to ask for it with words, they are too old to get it. Why on earth would you breastfeed that long? Just FYI most of the more intelligent people I know (ivy league, politics, lawyers, docs) were all formula fed and I think they are doing just fine.

If a two year old can walk around with a bottle, sippy cup, or a paci, then there should be no issue with breastfeeding at this age. Breastfeeding is just another way of getting milk and comfort. But people get uncomfortable because it is a womans body part that is offering nutrition. Nutrition, might I add, that is way more beneficial than cows milk (and I'm not against cows milk or anything).

I see what you're saying and I understand why people may get uncomfortable with nursing a toddler. But I think that has more to do with our society and our puritanical roots. It really shouldn't be an issue.

And I'm really trying to understand why the nurse-in was, as you say, over the top. It was pretty uneventful and peaceful. I have never seen a mother nurse in public to shock people. Have you? And could you give me an example? And don't give the nurse in as an example. That was simply to raise awareness, not to show off tits and shock people, like many of you would like to believe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They go out to public places during times they know their child will get hungry. Is that not looking to nurse in public.

Are they supposed to only be out between feedings? That would make it very hard to accomplish any basic chores and errands. Maybe, that's why Amazon has free shipping for those in the Mom program. They don't think women should be able to leave their houses during that first year of their child's life.

Seriously though, you sound a little insane. Your arguments lack logic and are heavy with paranoia.

[Anonymous]

I don't think I sound paranoid at all. I am trying to have an honest discussion about the issue. Why when someone disagrees with your beliefs are they automatically considered insane? On the contrary I think it might be you who sounds paranoid. Someone who disagrees or has a different opinion must be crazy right?

You shouldn't have to stay in the first year of your child's leife, but maybe consider not going to a non-child museum during feeding time? Yeah you make some sacrifices but I guess that just seemed normal to me when I became a mother.

Please understand that a debate doesn't have to change your views it just hopes to get you to think about others'.

To the PP who asked for an example of a woman going out to breast feed to shock people, no I don't believe that is something a woman does purposefully. I have never seen an example of a woman going out in order to shock people by breast feeding. That wasn't my point. I do have a question for you though. What was the nurse in raising awareness of? I'm pretty sure people know that woman breastfeed so I'm a little confused about what was learned?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think I sound paranoid at all. I am trying to have an honest discussion about the issue. Why when someone disagrees with your beliefs are they automatically considered insane? On the contrary I think it might be you who sounds paranoid. Someone who disagrees or has a different opinion must be crazy right?

You shouldn't have to stay in the first year of your child's leife, but maybe consider not going to a non-child museum during feeding time? Yeah you make some sacrifices but I guess that just seemed normal to me when I became a mother.

Please understand that a debate doesn't have to change your views it just hopes to get you to think about others'.

To the PP who asked for an example of a woman going out to breast feed to shock people, no I don't believe that is something a woman does purposefully. I have never seen an example of a woman going out in order to shock people by breast feeding. That wasn't my point. I do have a question for you though. What was the nurse in raising awareness of? I'm pretty sure people know that woman breastfeed so I'm a little confused about what was learned?

Yeah, people are aware that women breastfeed. What some people don't understand is that a woman has a right to feed her child in public... whether that's bottle feeding or breastfeeding. Most women DO cover up when they breastfeed in public... some don't... but even when they don't they're usually discreet enough so that they're not popping out their breasts for all to see... and even IF they did that, I personally wouldn't have a problem with it... but to each his own. The nurse-in was to make a point that, yes, women should be allowed to breastfeed their child wherever and whenever... because as was initially shown by the museum's security guard, there are still some strong-held beliefs that women should hide when they feed their babies in the most natural way possible. And that needs to change.

[Anonymous]

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You shouldn't have to stay in the first year of your child's leife, but maybe consider not going to a non-child museum during feeding time? Yeah you make some sacrifices but I guess that just seemed normal to me when I became a mother.

The sacrifices I have happily and willingly made are for my child's well being, not for the "comfort" of strangers who don't like seeing my baby being fed. My first nursed every 2-3 hours her first year; I should only have gone to children's museum's during that time? That is indeed crazy and unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone who disagrees or has a different opinion must be crazy right?

Hinting that women intentionally go out while their baby is hungry so that they can nurse in public is paranoid. You make is sound like they're planning it out so they can get attention. A likely reason would be that they have things to do and want to leave their house and do not plan their daily lives around hiding out to feed their babies.

The nurse-in was to bring attention to the applicable laws. That's been stated on this thread too many times to count.

[Anonymous]

Things to do like go to museums? Also, I was being sarcastic when I asked with the nurse-ins purpose was for. My point was that obviously it is legal and that's great but I don't think you had to do a nurse-in. But you did. so good for you. I had some things that were more important to me and my family to do on Saturday.

Alright, you think I sound paranoid for saying that mothers intentionally go out when their baby is hungry. Do you know what paranoid means? Maybe instead of doing the nurse-in you should have studied definitions. So I am fearful of you and I distrust you? On the contrary, I pity your delusions that everyone needs to agree with your beliefs and laugh when I see the posts saying over and over again "haha its legal haha" do you know how crazy that makes YOU sound? Its not about distrust, I don't even know you and I don't know or am I friends with anybody who attended the nurse-in ( I guess we all had better things to do that day). Also I couldn't be less fearful of you or people like you. You keep having nurse-ins and I'll keep teaching my kids that you don't have to have public displays to have people respect you and your beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things to do like go to museums? Also, I was being sarcastic when I asked with the nurse-ins purpose was for. My point was that obviously it is legal and that's great but I don't think you had to do a nurse-in. But you did. so good for you. I had some things that were more important to me and my family to do on Saturday.

Alright, you think I sound paranoid for saying that mothers intentionally go out when their baby is hungry. Do you know what paranoid means? Maybe instead of doing the nurse-in you should have studied definitions. So I am fearful of you and I distrust you? On the contrary, I pity your delusions that everyone needs to agree with your beliefs and laugh when I see the posts saying over and over again "haha its legal haha" do you know how crazy that makes YOU sound? Its not about distrust, I don't even know you and I don't know or am I friends with anybody who attended the nurse-in ( I guess we all had better things to do that day). Also I couldn't be less fearful of you or people like you. You keep having nurse-ins and I'll keep teaching my kids that you don't have to have public displays to have people respect you and your beliefs.

Here's a pic of the nurse-in at the Hirshhorn. Look at all these crazy bitches. They're probably gonna pop their tits out and spray milk everywhere. The gall of these women!

And you might want to work on your sarcasm... because it really did seem that you were genuinely confused about what a nurse-in was for... and you still seem confused. I think it's funny that you probably actually looked up the definition of paranoid. And yes, I would say you're distrustful of women who nurse in public, because you question their motives... which in fact makes you distrustful... therefore a bit paranoid of nursing mothers. And you do come across as fearful. Why is a nursing woman such a threat to you? Do you have issues with your sexuality?

And fine. Go ahead and teach your kids not to stand up for themselves or their rights. Meanwhile, I'll keep nursing in public. Not because I want to show off, but because it's my legal right to feed my baby. And yes, ha ha. It's legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things to do like go to museums?

hmmm... and if women can't nurse in museums, then i guess they shouldn't nurse at the zoo, at a park, on a plane, on a bench on the street or anywhere in public. you sound really dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Things to do like go to museums? Also, I was being sarcastic when I asked with the nurse-ins purpose was for. My point was that obviously it is legal and that's great but I don't think you had to do a nurse-in. But you did. so good for you. I had some things that were more important to me and my family to do on Saturday.

Alright, you think I sound paranoid for saying that mothers intentionally go out when their baby is hungry. Do you know what paranoid means? Maybe instead of doing the nurse-in you should have studied definitions. So I am fearful of you and I distrust you? On the contrary, I pity your delusions that everyone needs to agree with your beliefs and laugh when I see the posts saying over and over again "haha its legal haha" do you know how crazy that makes YOU sound? Its not about distrust, I don't even know you and I don't know or am I friends with anybody who attended the nurse-in ( I guess we all had better things to do that day). Also I couldn't be less fearful of you or people like you. You keep having nurse-ins and I'll keep teaching my kids that you don't have to have public displays to have people respect you and your beliefs.

People like me? What the hell do you know about me? Nothing, apparently. I wasn't at the nurse-in. My children are way past the nursing stage. If you dislike the laws, think women nurse in public everyday for attention, then please write your lawmaker for a change in the laws and explain all that. Bitching about a nurse-in that was a week ago is quite pointless.

Are you the same poster who said the bible commands modesty?