‘Trump Slump’ Looms as Foreign Visitors Rethink Travel to U.S.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm noticing DC is becoming like a ghost town now too. Supposedly "safe" yet who wants to visit a city that looks like a military occupation zone with scenes of racial profiling and random people being detained? Incidentally, arrests are down in DC despite all the increased federal presence....

How do they measure arrests to be down for a time period less than a week?

Really? Because arrests are totaled daily.

While I live nearby, we have no plans to go into DC for anything for the foreseeable future. There is no way I would recommend an international visitor come here, especially if they weren't lily white right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm noticing DC is becoming like a ghost town now too. Supposedly "safe" yet who wants to visit a city that looks like a military occupation zone with scenes of racial profiling and random people being detained? Incidentally, arrests are down in DC despite all the increased federal presence....

How do they measure arrests to be down for a time period less than a week?

They have made several announcements touting the numbers of arrests made.

But when you compare it to this time last year or a few months and do the math to calculate average numbers of arrests per day it's a lot fewer now than it was before all these feds came in.

because it isn't about arrests or stemming crime...it is about a display of power and authoritarianism.

And what regional or international tourist wants to come to DC and experience that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pensacola tourism sees summer slump as fewer international travelers coming to Florida
by Hailey Samples
Mon, August 18th 2025 at 3:40 PM
Updated Mon, August 18th 2025 at 6:50 PM

https://weartv.com/news/local/pensacola-tourism-sees-summer-slump-as-fewer-international-travelers-coming-to-florida

Every year, Florida ranks as a top vacation destination in the summer. This year, the travel numbers statewide were on the decline, specifically with international travelers.

There were 18,000 fewer tourists in Pensacola this June compared to the same time last year. If you've noticed more open space on the beach and less traffic around town you would be spot on.

More room for real Americans. Who cares about businesses, jobs and the economy. MAGA /s

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“A key factor dragging business for some Gulf Coast tourist destinations is the lack of foreign arrivals — particularly from Canada. Canadian visitors, long a lifeline for Florida’s Gulf Coast, are pulling back as diplomatic tensions rise and border crossings plunge. As the Trump administration ramps up its trade war and diplomatic spat, the so-called “snowbirds” from the north are changing their travel plans.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-beach-cities-ghost-towns-190000484.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGN1cmJhbm1vbS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJQSppuStfXJgAdSmHK2s25D8hMazy8ZYigqJPealnA-TZOs2aaBfUVbVgrVXwV0usF7cxXvMzpu6vW1ohm_w5mosuB7C-HMroHlyk8vm3xxy0eLhQGjg8tXHvXEIafLk-N9DGINCFpkL-uLqofI9m5yk-bcEBTolnDRnq63ea92

My parents live in SWFL and their sole income at this point comes from several investment properties that they rent to snowbirds. This is what they live on in order to avoid touching their investments, which they are counting on to cover costs once they feel they can't live independently anymore. Most of their renters come from Canada or from the Midwest. So far they have no Candadians booked for the season and two of their regulars have let them know they are not coming this year. And their domestic renters are way down, with regulars citing fears about the economy keeping them close to home. So yeah, this is real.

Canadian here. You should let your parents know that the boycott will continue for a while. Snowbirds are finding alternative places to stay - mostly in southern Europe and the Caribbean.

I'm the PP. My dad is a big Trump supporter so this has been fascinating to watch. At first he was telling me it was just a blip and that as the season got closer people would realize they didn't want to really give up their regular winter place, especially because there is a whole culture of snowbird community in his area. But now it's clear that his properties are going to sit empty or close to it, and that even he shifts to a short-term model (which he hates) he still isn't going to have the income he needs. I wish I could say that he'll hold Trump's policies responsible but honestly I think he's too far gone down the MAGA rabbit hole and so instead he'll blame something else on the talking points list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A key factor dragging business for some Gulf Coast tourist destinations is the lack of foreign arrivals — particularly from Canada. Canadian visitors, long a lifeline for Florida’s Gulf Coast, are pulling back as diplomatic tensions rise and border crossings plunge. As the Trump administration ramps up its trade war and diplomatic spat, the so-called “snowbirds” from the north are changing their travel plans.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-beach-cities-ghost-towns-190000484.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGN1cmJhbm1vbS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJQSppuStfXJgAdSmHK2s25D8hMazy8ZYigqJPealnA-TZOs2aaBfUVbVgrVXwV0usF7cxXvMzpu6vW1ohm_w5mosuB7C-HMroHlyk8vm3xxy0eLhQGjg8tXHvXEIafLk-N9DGINCFpkL-uLqofI9m5yk-bcEBTolnDRnq63ea92

My parents live in SWFL and their sole income at this point comes from several investment properties that they rent to snowbirds. This is what they live on in order to avoid touching their investments, which they are counting on to cover costs once they feel they can't live independently anymore. Most of their renters come from Canada or from the Midwest. So far they have no Candadians booked for the season and two of their regulars have let them know they are not coming this year. And their domestic renters are way down, with regulars citing fears about the economy keeping them close to home. So yeah, this is real.

Canadian here. You should let your parents know that the boycott will continue for a while. Snowbirds are finding alternative places to stay - mostly in southern Europe and the Caribbean.

I'm the PP. My dad is a big Trump supporter so this has been fascinating to watch. At first he was telling me it was just a blip and that as the season got closer people would realize they didn't want to really give up their regular winter place, especially because there is a whole culture of snowbird community in his area. But now it's clear that his properties are going to sit empty or close to it, and that even he shifts to a short-term model (which he hates) he still isn't going to have the income he needs. I wish I could say that he'll hold Trump's policies responsible but honestly I think he's too far gone down the MAGA rabbit hole and so instead he'll blame something else on the talking points list.

Interesting. I don't think the Canadians are coming back anytime soon, and many of us Americans are striking red states off our travel plans for the time being.

Wonder how long he will be able to hold out until he realizes people aren't coming back after they find other places to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A key factor dragging business for some Gulf Coast tourist destinations is the lack of foreign arrivals — particularly from Canada. Canadian visitors, long a lifeline for Florida’s Gulf Coast, are pulling back as diplomatic tensions rise and border crossings plunge. As the Trump administration ramps up its trade war and diplomatic spat, the so-called “snowbirds” from the north are changing their travel plans.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-beach-cities-ghost-towns-190000484.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGN1cmJhbm1vbS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJQSppuStfXJgAdSmHK2s25D8hMazy8ZYigqJPealnA-TZOs2aaBfUVbVgrVXwV0usF7cxXvMzpu6vW1ohm_w5mosuB7C-HMroHlyk8vm3xxy0eLhQGjg8tXHvXEIafLk-N9DGINCFpkL-uLqofI9m5yk-bcEBTolnDRnq63ea92

My parents live in SWFL and their sole income at this point comes from several investment properties that they rent to snowbirds. This is what they live on in order to avoid touching their investments, which they are counting on to cover costs once they feel they can't live independently anymore. Most of their renters come from Canada or from the Midwest. So far they have no Candadians booked for the season and two of their regulars have let them know they are not coming this year. And their domestic renters are way down, with regulars citing fears about the economy keeping them close to home. So yeah, this is real.

Canadian here. You should let your parents know that the boycott will continue for a while. Snowbirds are finding alternative places to stay - mostly in southern Europe and the Caribbean.

I'm the PP. My dad is a big Trump supporter so this has been fascinating to watch. At first he was telling me it was just a blip and that as the season got closer people would realize they didn't want to really give up their regular winter place, especially because there is a whole culture of snowbird community in his area. But now it's clear that his properties are going to sit empty or close to it, and that even he shifts to a short-term model (which he hates) he still isn't going to have the income he needs. I wish I could say that he'll hold Trump's policies responsible but honestly I think he's too far gone down the MAGA rabbit hole and so instead he'll blame something else on the talking points list.

I’m in Florida now and people are talking about tourism being down but they don’t seem to be blaming Trump…they’re blaming “the high price of everything.” There are none so blind as those who will not see…

[Anonymous]

We ski twice/year out west in Utah and Colorado. Not going to Utah anymore, all Colorado. Eff them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the foreigners have to pay for their own military protection and can't out tariff rip off the the USA they don't have money left to travel. Boo Hoo.

You mean now that Americans are paying all of the international Trump Taxes?

It never ceases to amaze me how so many dopey MAGAs still believe the tariffs are being paid by foreign countries and that it's "bringing money in." No money is coming in to the country. The money is coming from American consumers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Now that the foreigners have to pay for their own military protection and can't out tariff rip off the the USA they don't have money left to travel. Boo Hoo.

You mean now that Americans are paying all of the international Trump Taxes?

It never ceases to amaze me how so many dopey MAGAs still believe the tariffs are being paid by foreign countries and that it's "bringing money in." No money is coming in to the country. The money is coming from American consumers.

Indeed, and look at the top 10 states that have the most people in financial distress - 9 out of the 10 are red.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-the-most-people-in-financial-distress/130790

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A key factor dragging business for some Gulf Coast tourist destinations is the lack of foreign arrivals — particularly from Canada. Canadian visitors, long a lifeline for Florida’s Gulf Coast, are pulling back as diplomatic tensions rise and border crossings plunge. As the Trump administration ramps up its trade war and diplomatic spat, the so-called “snowbirds” from the north are changing their travel plans.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-beach-cities-ghost-towns-190000484.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGN1cmJhbm1vbS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJQSppuStfXJgAdSmHK2s25D8hMazy8ZYigqJPealnA-TZOs2aaBfUVbVgrVXwV0usF7cxXvMzpu6vW1ohm_w5mosuB7C-HMroHlyk8vm3xxy0eLhQGjg8tXHvXEIafLk-N9DGINCFpkL-uLqofI9m5yk-bcEBTolnDRnq63ea92

My parents live in SWFL and their sole income at this point comes from several investment properties that they rent to snowbirds. This is what they live on in order to avoid touching their investments, which they are counting on to cover costs once they feel they can't live independently anymore. Most of their renters come from Canada or from the Midwest. So far they have no Candadians booked for the season and two of their regulars have let them know they are not coming this year. And their domestic renters are way down, with regulars citing fears about the economy keeping them close to home. So yeah, this is real.

Canadian here. You should let your parents know that the boycott will continue for a while. Snowbirds are finding alternative places to stay - mostly in southern Europe and the Caribbean.

I'm the PP. My dad is a big Trump supporter so this has been fascinating to watch. At first he was telling me it was just a blip and that as the season got closer people would realize they didn't want to really give up their regular winter place, especially because there is a whole culture of snowbird community in his area. But now it's clear that his properties are going to sit empty or close to it, and that even he shifts to a short-term model (which he hates) he still isn't going to have the income he needs. I wish I could say that he'll hold Trump's policies responsible but honestly I think he's too far gone down the MAGA rabbit hole and so instead he'll blame something else on the talking points list.

I’m in Florida now and people are talking about tourism being down but they don’t seem to be blaming Trump…they’re blaming “the high price of everything.” There are none so blind as those who will not see…

Sigh… who’s going to tell them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We ski twice/year out west in Utah and Colorado. Not going to Utah anymore, all Colorado. Eff them.

Do you only spend money in blue Congressional districts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We ski twice/year out west in Utah and Colorado. Not going to Utah anymore, all Colorado. Eff them.

Do you only spend money in blue Congressional districts?

I don't spend money at maga businesses if I can help it. So what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“A key factor dragging business for some Gulf Coast tourist destinations is the lack of foreign arrivals — particularly from Canada. Canadian visitors, long a lifeline for Florida’s Gulf Coast, are pulling back as diplomatic tensions rise and border crossings plunge. As the Trump administration ramps up its trade war and diplomatic spat, the so-called “snowbirds” from the north are changing their travel plans.”
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/florida-beach-cities-ghost-towns-190000484.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZGN1cmJhbm1vbS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJQSppuStfXJgAdSmHK2s25D8hMazy8ZYigqJPealnA-TZOs2aaBfUVbVgrVXwV0usF7cxXvMzpu6vW1ohm_w5mosuB7C-HMroHlyk8vm3xxy0eLhQGjg8tXHvXEIafLk-N9DGINCFpkL-uLqofI9m5yk-bcEBTolnDRnq63ea92

My parents live in SWFL and their sole income at this point comes from several investment properties that they rent to snowbirds. This is what they live on in order to avoid touching their investments, which they are counting on to cover costs once they feel they can't live independently anymore. Most of their renters come from Canada or from the Midwest. So far they have no Candadians booked for the season and two of their regulars have let them know they are not coming this year. And their domestic renters are way down, with regulars citing fears about the economy keeping them close to home. So yeah, this is real.

Canadian here. You should let your parents know that the boycott will continue for a while. Snowbirds are finding alternative places to stay - mostly in southern Europe and the Caribbean.

I'm the PP. My dad is a big Trump supporter so this has been fascinating to watch. At first he was telling me it was just a blip and that as the season got closer people would realize they didn't want to really give up their regular winter place, especially because there is a whole culture of snowbird community in his area. But now it's clear that his properties are going to sit empty or close to it, and that even he shifts to a short-term model (which he hates) he still isn't going to have the income he needs. I wish I could say that he'll hold Trump's policies responsible but honestly I think he's too far gone down the MAGA rabbit hole and so instead he'll blame something else on the talking points list.

I’m in Florida now and people are talking about tourism being down but they don’t seem to be blaming Trump…they’re blaming “the high price of everything.” There are none so blind as those who will not see…

Sigh… who’s going to tell them?

I tried to connect the dots for them and the subject was quickly changed. Trump can do no wrong for some.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We ski twice/year out west in Utah and Colorado. Not going to Utah anymore, all Colorado. Eff them.

Do you only spend money in blue Congressional districts?

Pretty much. Sundance also left Utah for Colorado. RIP Utah and your unfluorinated water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I flew from Dulles airport to Paris a few days ago. Dulles was completely empty - no lines anywhere. When we got to Paris, the airport was the most crowded I’ve ever seen. Last year I did the same flight also in August and it took hours to get through security etc in Dulles.

Yeah, I've traveled a bit this summer, domestically, and there have been very short lines. It's astonishing. I had no idea there were so many foreign travelers. DD went to Italy, and when she came home, it took her just a few minutes to get through customs (or whatever they call it now), very short lines. It wasn't like this last year when I went to Europe. Airports were much more crowded, lines were longer. It took me an hour last summer to get through customs.

The bulk of those foreign travelers are Canadians, so you don't notice that they are foreign.

Couldn’t happen to a better “community”. FAFO