SecDef shares US war Plan in Group chat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One thing I really try to teach my students and my own kids - absolutely nothing you do on your phone is private. I share examples of “private” texts or content being found by the wrong person and how the senders faced really serious consequences. I really, really emphasize that there is no way to do anything on their phones that is guaranteed to be 100% private. Honestly, our government officials should know this.

You’re talking about fools who shared war plans by emoji, so…. Not the brightest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this gets Hegseth fired! Please. Please. Please. (DoD employee).

Did you see his response to press pool outside the plane? He’s completely nonsensical

Blaming the reporter now. He was texting the reporter! And then saying the reporter deals only with sensationalism and conspiracy like reporting on “good people on both sides”? That can straight from Trump’s mouth.

[Anonymous]

Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the most criminally incompetent administration of my nearly 60 years on the planet. Hands down.

Yep. Maga, how is this ok with you? Are you happy now that 10 trans athletes can't compete? Was it worth it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any way to gift that article?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=CqpNA0Lpd1zKrg7W1mX58FsK7mn1iGHoF09grAsa_Hw&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

It's a must read. We are truly being governed by morons.

Thank you. My day was awful yesterday and I didn't get to sit down to read this until late last night. Genuine thanks for sharing a gift link.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wonder if Fox will report it.

If they CHOOSE to report

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there any way to gift that article?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=CqpNA0Lpd1zKrg7W1mX58FsK7mn1iGHoF09grAsa_Hw&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

It's a must read. We are truly being governed by morons.

Thank you. My day was awful yesterday and I didn't get to sit down to read this until late last night. Genuine thanks for sharing a gift link.

DP
Maybe I should buy a subscription.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Because you can send WAR PLANS to non-secure people... obviously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Not a tech person but I am in a Signal group. A few things. When I join Signal, I see all of my phone contacts who also have Signal. So I can message them there.

Even if Signal is secure, your phone isn't. If I were stopped at the airport and customs made me open my phone, they'd see it all.

And within the app, we have people joining and leaving on a regular basis, not necessarily with their real names. So who knows who's in there and what they see? I don't know if that author had his full name listed, or whether he was going by his initials and the group originator thought he was someone else. But it's easy to make mistakes. Like Hegseth could have "thought" he was texting to that group, but mistakenly texted to another Signal group. So he could have shared sensitive information with anyone in his larger circle.

And, again, even though Signal is secure, I can take screen shots of it and share. Even at my government job, where we are nobodies, there is a microsoft application on our phones that prevents us from copying and pasting data from secure government apps, and stops me from screen shotting anything off secure government apps. Signal doesn't have that.

[Anonymous]

Thank you to whoever shared the gift link. Everyone should be aware of what's happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Anything on a commercial phone is unsecure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Not a tech person but I am in a Signal group. A few things. When I join Signal, I see all of my phone contacts who also have Signal. So I can message them there.

Even if Signal is secure, your phone isn't. If I were stopped at the airport and customs made me open my phone, they'd see it all.

And within the app, we have people joining and leaving on a regular basis, not necessarily with their real names. So who knows who's in there and what they see? I don't know if that author had his full name listed, or whether he was going by his initials and the group originator thought he was someone else. But it's easy to make mistakes. Like Hegseth could have "thought" he was texting to that group, but mistakenly texted to another Signal group. So he could have shared sensitive information with anyone in his larger circle.

And, again, even though Signal is secure, I can take screen shots of it and share. Even at my government job, where we are nobodies, there is a microsoft application on our phones that prevents us from copying and pasting data from secure government apps, and stops me from screen shotting anything off secure government apps. Signal doesn't have that.

I want to add that all of these discussions are subject to record laws. Using Signal is clearly a way to get around that. How many laws were broken...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

I can’t speak to the security, but using Signal gets around a potential FOIA.

[Anonymous]

The story, period, is that our government is sharing its most classified information on unsecure platforms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone smarter than me explain why Signal, which uses AES-256 encryption protocol, is less secure than government TS systems, which also use AES-256?

Just asking as a non-tech person.

Not a tech person but I am in a Signal group. A few things. When I join Signal, I see all of my phone contacts who also have Signal. So I can message them there.

Even if Signal is secure, your phone isn't. If I were stopped at the airport and customs made me open my phone, they'd see it all.

And within the app, we have people joining and leaving on a regular basis, not necessarily with their real names. So who knows who's in there and what they see? I don't know if that author had his full name listed, or whether he was going by his initials and the group originator thought he was someone else. But it's easy to make mistakes. Like Hegseth could have "thought" he was texting to that group, but mistakenly texted to another Signal group. So he could have shared sensitive information with anyone in his larger circle.

And, again, even though Signal is secure, I can take screen shots of it and share. Even at my government job, where we are nobodies, there is a microsoft application on our phones that prevents us from copying and pasting data from secure government apps, and stops me from screen shotting anything off secure government apps. Signal doesn't have that.

I want to add that all of these discussions are subject to record laws. Using Signal is clearly a way to get around that. How many laws were broken...

It's pretty clear through their casual and cavalier use of Signal that this is just one of MANY conversations that are taking place on the platform.