Trump does like Some immigrants

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Anonymous wrote:One last thing about land and maths, there is the exhaustively cited argument that whites “stole our land”. That might be a historical fact, but it’s also an actual fact that around 60% of SA farm land is currently debt financed. What that tells you is that the current generation of SA farmers generally bought their farms; they are not hand-me-downs from three centuries ago. But in some ways, and more importantly, if their land is rendered worthless by the state confiscating land without compensation, then what happens to the debt? Then there is a good chance you have a real financial crisis on your hands.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-02-10-after-the-bell-the-harsh-mathematics-of-land-reform-in-sa/

Can’t “debt financed” also apply to people who inherited the land —then refinanced to keep their farms? I’ve no idea how this works in SA, but getting mortgages to help with updating, expenses, and taxes would not be unusual, would it?

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Trump signed an executive order — prioritizing resettlement services for white South Africans. Yup. Just the white ones.
The Afrikaners.

https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/saying-the-thing-out-loud-trumps

of course Trump loves some immigrants - he loves the LEGAL ones, and so do I!

+1

legal immigrants = good for America

illegal immigrants = bad for America

this is something that we all can agree on!

He (and you) like the white South African "legal" immigrants, but not the darker skinned "legal" immigrants from countries like Haiti.

you and he are racist... this is something we can all agree on.

Would it make you feel better to know that Trump's ICE threw a white Northern European immigrant, pure Aryan stock, into jail indefinitely over a supposed but not stated paperwork error from 10 years ago?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-imprisons-danish-dad-of-4-at-citizenship-interview/

No one is safe from this monster.

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Anonymous wrote:White South Africans must be returned to SA to atone for the systemic white racism they created, and which still haunts SA to this very day.

You don’t get to have your GGGGGGGrandparent ancestors colonize, subjugate the local people, ignore their suffering, establish systemic discrimination as armor, pillage the natural resources, and then whine and claim discrimination and woe is me, I am being attacked I’m a victim, when the tables are turned centuries later. Work it out and live with the locals or try to immigrate legally to another country without embarrassing yourselves by claiming refugee status, even if it’s offered by a charlatan.

These farmers haven't done anything. They are making a living according to the system in place. If the system changes and it is damaging to their livelihood, they have a right to either find a new home or fight back. And I give the same answer no matter the race or sex. No one has to shut up and sit down based on what happened when they were kids.

However, I don't think that they should be the exception to a closed asylum system. Historically, plenty of people got through the asylum process claiming legitimate fear, objectively verifiable or not. Maybe we should audit all prior asylum approvals.

Why can't they go back home to the Netherlands, or to South Sudan or El Salvador?

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Anonymous wrote:I just listened to the press conference of Trump and the SA president and was impressed how the latter was able to calmly but firmly refute Trump’s BS. Trump looked like an ignorant manipulated idiot as usual.

Oh really?

Hmm:


“EFF leader Julius Malema's trademark song is "Shoot the Boer, Shoot the farmer", which he sings at political rallies.
Afrikaner lobby groups have tried to get the song banned, saying it was highly inflammatory and amounted to hate speech.
However, South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal has ruled that Malema is within his rights to sing the lyrics - first popularised during the anti-apartheid struggle - at political rallies.
The court ruled that a "reasonably well-informed person" would understand that when "protest songs are sung, even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence".
Instead, the song was a "provocative way" of advancing the EFF's political agenda - which was to end "land and economic injustice".
Lobby group AfriForum filed an appeal against the ruling, but South Africa's highest court refused to hear the case, saying it had little chance of succeeding.
In 2023, South Africa's former President Thabo Mbeki urged Malema to stop singing the song, saying it was no longer politically relevant as the anti-apartheid struggle was over.
The ANC says it no longer sings it, but it cannot "prescribe to other political parties what they must sing".

DP
Did you watch? An old man forcing a guest to look at printed out Facebook shares and watch reels. It was embarrassing to watch.

The MAGAs are all applauding Trump. He’s so brave. He really showed South Africa! Meanwhile Elon is watching the whole thing go down. And it’s really about Starlink not being able to get set up in SA. Not bc Elon is white (which is what he claims), but bc he doesn’t want to follow the rules to get Starlink set up. It’s not about the poor white farmers, people. Magas just believe any BS Trump feeds them.

The "rule" he is breaking is "the company must be substantially owned by Black people" .

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Anonymous wrote:The white farmers supply most of the food. That could turn into a famine.

They don't produce food out of thin air.

The land is still there, so the people that remain can farm.

Study history and you will see what happens when unskilled farmers take over. Mass famine! Think don’t be reactionary.

What is the alternative?

Occupy SA to protect the Boer farmers because WE think the black people can't hack it and will starve? Try to pressure them some other way to change their laws and let the white farmers keep the land and protect them from violence?

No thanks.

We really need to minimize putting boots/loafers on the ground to run other nations.

We could use the farmers here and I'm sure some other nations could as well.

I think independent charities should be the ones to foot the time, money and energy to help them (and any other refugees absent ones who were promised escape in exchange for help rendered) resettle.