Petition to Rescind the appointment of AP at Rock Creek Valley ES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just watched the Fox 5 video linked above at 08:20.

You can't see much from the video as all the kids' heads are blurred (fair to do). You can't even see the child he's directly interacting with since Winter's own body is blocking the child from the video.

But from the highlighted section in video, Winter's "stomping" (the word that keeps getting used) did seem to be intentional. The motion does not look accidental at all.

You can't tell if the child does or doesn't cry or react because the child's face isn't even visible in the video.

I would not be OK with a principal or teacher or counselor or any school employee thinking it's OK to go around and intentionally place the adult's foot forcefully on a young child's foot.

There's no indication from the video that he made contact with the students foot or even intended to. He may have stomped his foot while being stern to get his point across. Or maybe he was just shifting his weight. Even if he accidentally stepped on the kids foot you can't tell from the video and you can't convict someone on may haves or what if or possible intention. He doesn't appear angry, to act that casual while intentionally inflicting pain would be psychotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just watched the Fox 5 video linked above at 08:20.

You can't see much from the video as all the kids' heads are blurred (fair to do). You can't even see the child he's directly interacting with since Winter's own body is blocking the child from the video.

But from the highlighted section in video, Winter's "stomping" (the word that keeps getting used) did seem to be intentional. The motion does not look accidental at all.

You can't tell if the child does or doesn't cry or react because the child's face isn't even visible in the video.

I would not be OK with a principal or teacher or counselor or any school employee thinking it's OK to go around and intentionally place the adult's foot forcefully on a young child's foot.

There's no indication from the video that he made contact with the students foot or even intended to. He may have stomped his foot while being stern to get his point across. Or maybe he was just shifting his weight. Even if he accidentally stepped on the kids foot you can't tell from the video and you can't convict someone on may haves or what if or possible intention. He doesn't appear angry, to act that casual while intentionally inflicting pain would be psychotic.

That's not what psychotic means. I think you're looking for the word "psychopathic". And it is by no means outside of the realm of possibility that an MCPS staff member could be psychopathic. Psychopathy is a real thing that exists in the general population.

[Anonymous]

Btw, it looks like he was looking down when he moved or stomped his foot. It wasn't an accident and anyone claiming that is lying.

It is hard to see what exactly happened with the students' faces blurred. I would imagine the police that arrested Winter were able to see more, given the charging documents state that the action caused "them to immediately start weeping".

What we know is that the criminal case against Winter was thrown out. I don't see any information about the mother seeking to sue him or MCPS, although it's possible that was her intention after the criminal case. That being said, it is incredibly unfair and disgusting to accuse her of seeking a payout when she hasn't even filed a civil suit as far as we know. There's no indication she was present when the other students reported the incident to their teacher. This whole situation was not driven by the mother. And as a mother I can't imagine pressing criminal charges against a staff member and the hassle and stress of that if I didn't genuinely believe this guy is a danger to my child and other children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that we are trying to show something that’s not clear at all. I don’t see contact even though they want me to believe it. This is what is wrong with news, trying to sensationalize a story and ruin this guy even more. Sad and unnecessary. Not a story after he was acquitted and cleared to return.

Agree with this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s ridiculous to think that a 200 pound man is going to stomp on a 6 year old’s foot and not cause one single red mark or bruise. If he had they would have submitted it as evidence and the parent talking about 8,000 nerve endings would have written about how the student limped, or had bruises, or a fracture or a red marks.

An impartial judge said the video evidence didn’t support the student getting stepped on and instead supported the student was upset because the student who would leave the classroom and other areas and wander around was not getting his way.

It’s really sad to see this happen. This is why bo one wants to be a special Ed teacher either. No one wants the liability. The parent instead of acknowledging her child can be challenging is even upset he was prevented from eloping by grabbing his sweatshirt. Instead parents like this expect multiple people to follow their child around everyday all over school as the child decides they don’t want to stay in class or the cafeteria.

I don't think this warranted criminal prosecution but he should be terminated from MCPS. It was clear he was physical and used force.

Yes and his past behavior At Barnsley was taken into consideration when they removed him from RCV and listened to the community. This man wasn’t squeaky clean. Hats off to Dr. Taylor for proving he is a man of his word who is repairing the trust

Did you read the letter? Dr. Taylor did not remove him. You vicious parents made it so that he chose not to come. Well done.

Be careful what you wish for RCV parents. Anyone with kids at Barnsley would be happy to tell you how much worse things could be.

You worked so hard to demonize Winter. Karma is a B.

Barnsley’s current principal is a real witch.

We have had quite a few teachers leave Barnsley since the new principal took over after Winter. And the school environment is... not great. Students are out. of. control. Winter had a decent handle on the school and even got it approved for Blue Ribbon Status.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that we are trying to show something that’s not clear at all. I don’t see contact even though they want me to believe it. This is what is wrong with news, trying to sensationalize a story and ruin this guy even more. Sad and unnecessary. Not a story after he was acquitted and cleared to return.

Agree with this.

The police saw the video without blurring, and spoke with witnesses and the child, and determined there was enough to arrest him. That standard is beyond enough to make parents reasonably be concerned for their children. Stop trying to gaslight them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Btw, it looks like he was looking down when he moved or stomped his foot. It wasn't an accident and anyone claiming that is lying.

It is hard to see what exactly happened with the students' faces blurred. I would imagine the police that arrested Winter were able to see more, given the charging documents state that the action caused "them to immediately start weeping".

What we know is that the criminal case against Winter was thrown out. I don't see any information about the mother seeking to sue him or MCPS, although it's possible that was her intention after the criminal case. That being said, it is incredibly unfair and disgusting to accuse her of seeking a payout when she hasn't even filed a civil suit as far as we know. There's no indication she was present when the other students reported the incident to their teacher. This whole situation was not driven by the mother. And as a mother I can't imagine pressing criminal charges against a staff member and the hassle and stress of that if I didn't genuinely believe this guy is a danger to my child and other children.

I don’t think it should be criminal but he should be terminated for cause. Clearly something happened.

[Anonymous]

He was acquitted and MCPS cleared him to return. Stop trying to see things that aren't in the video. You cannot tell if he hit his foot. The Judge was clear that there was no evidence from video or witnesses and Winter didn't even have to put on a defense. He's not going to a school. Move on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He was accused of stomping his foot on a child but acquitted in court without having to put on a defense. Not having to put on a defense is extremely rare and shows how there was no evidence it happened and the witnesses lacked credibility. This includes the video that does not show that any contact was made.

I mean… on the video he clearly kicked at the boys foot multiple times. That alone should disqualify him.

[Anonymous]

I hope it's never your 6 year old who is deemed to "lack credibility because he can't answer questions from a stranger about events that happened 8 months prior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was accused of stomping his foot on a child but acquitted in court without having to put on a defense. Not having to put on a defense is extremely rare and shows how there was no evidence it happened and the witnesses lacked credibility. This includes the video that does not show that any contact was made.

I mean… on the video he clearly kicked at the boys foot multiple times. That alone should disqualify him.

There is no evidence of this at all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope it's never your 6 year old who is deemed to "lack credibility because he can't answer questions from a stranger about events that happened 8 months prior.

Shame on the parents for allowing their 6 year old son to testify! They should never have agreed to allow him to take the stand! That’s on the parents!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope it's never your 6 year old who is deemed to "lack credibility because he can't answer questions from a stranger about events that happened 8 months prior.

Shame on the parents for allowing their 6 year old son to testify! They should never have agreed to allow him to take the stand! That’s on the parents!

Therefore MCPS should disregard that other students witnessed and the 6 year old victim told police that the man had physically assaulted him?

[Anonymous]

Ffs people, do some of you literally not GAF about children at all? Do you think a person needs to be convicted of a crime to be disqualifies from leadership positions? What is more important? Protecting children? Or protecting predators?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope it's never your 6 year old who is deemed to "lack credibility because he can't answer questions from a stranger about events that happened 8 months prior.

Shame on the parents for allowing their 6 year old son to testify! They should never have agreed to allow him to take the stand! That’s on the parents!

Therefore MCPS should disregard that other students witnessed and the 6 year old victim told police that the man had physically assaulted him?

There was a concern raised. It was investigated. He faced a charge of assault. He was acquitted by the courts and cleared by the school system. Nothing more should happen to him.