"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The county is the same, it’s the students that are declining and most of the schools in the county have hugh populations of kids that don’t care, don’t try or aren’t supported to be successful. The parents blame everyone but them selves expecting the schools to build young men and women instead of simply educating them. The schools spin into tizzies trying to handle the lowest common denominators and the kids with hope get neglected. The schools without a critical mass of these kids are doing fine and many others have little schools within schools to shelter the good kids leaving the middle class fight feverishly to get into the limited spots. All in the hope of graduating from a public school with distinction and not being hopelessly behind the rich kids who got pushed through the important privates.

This is the net results of the suburbanization of poor people and the over emphasis on white collar university tract with the false promises everybody can be a skill-less middle manager paper pusher and produce almost nothing. While there are professions cultured in colleges the vast majority of student have learned nothing except how to navigate a bureaucratic checks and balance system and stay off the radar. And will have to work decades for the privilege. Enterprise car rental is huge/major employer of recent college grads, let that sink in.

The majority of people trying the feed their avg kids though a stacked system while thinking it’s everybody else’s fault when they get avg results is the problem coupled to a nation that doesn’t reward labor enough that most parents would even consider letting their kids work toward it unless they hit rock bottom.

This is the case. The fact that except for maybe Doctor or Lawyer ( and even then ), people with advanced degrees in STEM median wise will get paid what truckers get paid and treated essentially the same, except there is a law that truckers can only work six fourteen-hour days, to make 100K. Or you know like firefighters, bus drivers and what not. Sure, for some people that are well connected to begin with all those years of education makes sense, but for most people return on investment is mediocre at best. Reflecting on my career path as a kid that was highly motivated and scored very well on standardized tests had a free ride at an engineering school, I would have been better off without the advanced education. Gosh I hate that phrase, "It's not what you know, it's who you know." Heard that so many times after I graduated, while I was working three dead end jobs to pay rent. Then layer on the corruption, students related to the teachers and professors getting preferential treatment. Not to mention the poor quality of STEM education these days. It's almost entirely H-1B, most of the professors are unintelligible in English. I definitely won't be paying a dime for any education, I'll set up a trust fund or invest in a house for my kids instead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS - Moran’s Corrupt Political Scam. Everyone in OSSWB knows it and talks about it openly.

You must be one of the flop, corrupt directors or associate superintendents who have failed us for years. Y’all hate accountability.

Sure Pete. There’s a lot of us who left after working with you. Darryl Williams, Jennifer Webster, Sarah Sirgo, Cheryl Dyson, Shelly Schultze, Eric Wilson, Brian Scriven, Adrienne Morrow, Rotunda Floyd-Cooper, Diane Morris, Eric Minus, Navarro, Zuckerman, Koutsos, Jimmy D’Andrea, and the list goes on.

Maybe everyone who left is the reason that MCPS is trash, not the one guy who profited from it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep MCOS is the problem not the parents at all
Not the shit religious right coming to make us Alabama or Arkansas or MO those are fabulous educational institutions!,

Marry those daughters off they don’t need crap MCPS do they?

Shut up already you fools start working together with brain cells MCPS sends how many kids to college ?..
and they succeed there and if they don’t that’s on you sucky parents

Which if the above listed educational institutions taught you how to write like that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS - Moran’s Corrupt Political Scam. Everyone in OSSWB knows it and talks about it openly.

You must be one of the flop, corrupt directors or associate superintendents who have failed us for years. Y’all hate accountability.

Sure Pete. There’s a lot of us who left after working with you. Darryl Williams, Jennifer Webster, Sarah Sirgo, Cheryl Dyson, Shelly Schultze, Eric Wilson, Brian Scriven, Adrienne Morrow, Rotunda Floyd-Cooper, Diane Morris, Eric Minus, Navarro, Zuckerman, Koutsos, Jimmy D’Andrea, and the list goes on.

Maybe everyone who left is the reason that MCPS is trash, not the one guy who profited from it?

Eric Minus, who allowed Beidleman to wreak havoc for years, is your idea of someone good who the system lost due to Peter’s supposed corruption?

You’re proving my point about the crappy directors and associate supers and telling on yourself. Stop while you’re ahead.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS - Moran’s Corrupt Political Scam. Everyone in OSSWB knows it and talks about it openly.

You must be one of the flop, corrupt directors or associate superintendents who have failed us for years. Y’all hate accountability.

Sure Pete. There’s a lot of us who left after working with you. Darryl Williams, Jennifer Webster, Sarah Sirgo, Cheryl Dyson, Shelly Schultze, Eric Wilson, Brian Scriven, Adrienne Morrow, Rotunda Floyd-Cooper, Diane Morris, Eric Minus, Navarro, Zuckerman, Koutsos, Jimmy D’Andrea, and the list goes on.

Maybe everyone who left is the reason that MCPS is trash, not the one guy who profited from it?

Eric Minus, who allowed Beidleman to wreak havoc for years, is your idea of someone good who the system lost due to Peter’s supposed corruption?

You’re proving my point about the crappy directors and associate supers and telling on yourself. Stop while you’re ahead.

I agree that Minus is just awful. Worked under him and he was both paranoid and delusional.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

I’m amazed at the lack of homework and assignments.

I really don't understand homework. How is it the kids are in school 6 to 8 hours per day and they have to come home to complete assignments. When I was home schooled I had my work done the time bus got to school. Wasted time..

The wasted time comes from admin and Central office mandating various pet projects that don’t actually improve student outcomes. I started keeping a tally this year. So far, in semester 1, I’ve lost 20 instructional days to activities that are not part of my curriculum. Of those, half were entirely non-academic in nature.

[Anonymous]

Is mcps unofficial motto still "pass the trash". I think it refers to students going hack sht and passing through, admin firing good teachers who dont go along with fraud, and admin fail upward when controversy hits due to neglect if responsibilities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To answer the title question: yes.
However,
if you talk to MCPS students who have met and talked to students from other parts of the country, let's say at camp, youth group, cousins etc.. they will tell you they are doing well and better off in the Montgomery County school system. As Board of Education member Harris said something along the lines of - people don't know how good they have it until they go elsewhere - could be true. (And no this is not someone from the Harris campaign nor is it Harris herself).

This is true.

My kids are thriving compared to similarly situated peers in neighboring states.

Sure.

But they aren’t thriving when compared to kids at dc metro area privates.

^^^
And that’s the problem imho.

As a parent with a handful of kids—including mcps graduates all the way down to current elementary students (and everything in between)—I can report things have gotten worse.

I can also report a dramatic increase in mcps families trying to get their kids into area private schools. Sadly, there are a very limited number of seats so most will be left in mcps.

I’m sick of it.

Raise the standards, focus on core subjects, use well established methods rather than chasing after the silver bullet that simply doesn’t exist, etc.

Actually, they thriving compared to kids at DC metro area private schools, and for free.

One of my kids was accepted into the Honors Colleges at multiple highly selective schools coveted at DC area privates and is now on a full merit-based scholarship at a much sought after public research university. A classmate is a Banneker scholar at UMD. Another went to Princeton. I think driven MCPS kids do fine when given opportunities for rigorous coursework.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article points out that at ALL MCPS schools, even in honor classes, there’s a lack of rigor, grade level assignments, and assigned books.

Even in AP classes! Look at your high school’s AP scores and you can easily see that. Very much a lack of rigor.

I’m amazed at the lack of homework and assignments.

I really don't understand homework. How is it the kids are in school 6 to 8 hours per day and they have to come home to complete assignments. When I was home schooled I had my work done the time bus got to school. Wasted time..

The wasted time comes from admin and Central office mandating various pet projects that don’t actually improve student outcomes. I started keeping a tally this year. So far, in semester 1, I’ve lost 20 instructional days to activities that are not part of my curriculum. Of those, half were entirely non-academic in nature.

Can you tell us about some of those activities? Are some of them instructional at all or are they mostly ideological?

[Anonymous]

Grade inflation is a powerful thing. Now that they are in the ivy they can really get away with low standards Scott free. It's great seeing people following in the footsteps of our Lord and savior- Donald Trump.

[Anonymous]

Won't motivated kids do well at any school and those who need more help, well, will need more help wherever they end up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
'Is MCPS losing its edge?"

College Admissions data
Cool school spaces

MoCo360 / Bethesda Magazine article

The sky is falling! This is just histrionics. My kids are getting a much better education today at their DCC schools than I did at W Feeders 30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

MCPS is trash for most unfortunately. For my high achieving child is has been a barely passable education. For my kid who needs services, it's been a nightmare. I've worked for MCPS for 25 years and have been watching the decline each year. Many of my coworkers are sending their kids to private at this point if they csn afford it.

[Anonymous]

Losing? It’s long gone.

[Anonymous]

The union needs to be dismantled to have any hope of saving mcps. You can't have a system that defends and conceals incompetence. The system will fall apart