Hunter’s plea deal

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parties gave the judge a 'revised plea agreement and Diversion agreement' at the last minute minutes before the hearing began. This revised version had the new 'immunity clause' that gave broad immunity to Hunter Biden.

Judge would not think twice about being given revised versions of documents at the last minute but the day before, judge found out that Hunter's defense counsel called the Court clerk's office and pretended to be someone calling from the republican Ways and Means Comm and asking the Amicus brief that was filed w/ IRS whistleblowers' testimony be taken down. Judge only found out because the Ways and Means Comm attorney found out and alerted the clerk's office the material should not have been taken down and should be put back up.

Now tell me how often an amicus brief from a House committee is filed in a misdemeanor tax case...

Now tell me how often is the sitting President's son criminally investigated for over years and have pending federal criminal charges, not to mention potentially even more serious charges, reduced to misdemeanors or dropped?

[Anonymous]

How can you be all outraged over Hunter Biden and not frothing at the mouth over the long list of Trump crimes?

If you find Hunter offensive, you should be going after Trump with torches and pitchforks.

[Anonymous]

The feds have been going after Trump for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The feds have been going after Trump for years.

Why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the court transcript is out, its clear that this was a fraud upon the court by Biden's attorneys. Thank god this judge saw through it.

As I read it, Paragraph 15 is referring to diversion on the gun charge and is constrained to just the listed charges, and is NOT some kind of supposed immunity from all other crimes and future crimes known or unknown forever in perpetuity as has been bizarrely claimed.

Yes, it was immunity for the facts listed in the plea agreement. However, they included the immunity in the diversion agreement and not the plea agreement, and tried to sell the judge on 'judges don't usually care about the diversion agreement, and probation has agreed to that.'

The judge went through the details and the lawyers for both sides put on a show of being in disagreement to let DOJ save face.

So we're basically making a big deal about a paragraph that was put in the wrong place.

1) Immunity is dealt with in the plea agreement not the diversion program agreement.

2) You rarely if ever see 'Diversion program in lieu of criminal charge' in federal criminal cases in the first place and in particular for a gun related charges.

3) Pleas agreement has to be approved by the judge but not the Diversion program and both sides agreed to put the "ambiguous and broad immunity paragraph in the Diversion agreement in effect bypassing the judge as if trying to sneak one by the Court.

4) It is unheard of to structure such a plea agreement along w/ Diversion agreement and sneaking in an immunity clause in the Diversion agreement instead of the plea agreement where it should have been in the first place.

Messed up big time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Now that the court transcript is out, its clear that this was a fraud upon the court by Biden's attorneys. Thank god this judge saw through it.

As I read it, Paragraph 15 is referring to diversion on the gun charge and is constrained to just the listed charges, and is NOT some kind of supposed immunity from all other crimes and future crimes known or unknown forever in perpetuity as has been bizarrely claimed.

Yes, it was immunity for the facts listed in the plea agreement. However, they included the immunity in the diversion agreement and not the plea agreement, and tried to sell the judge on 'judges don't usually care about the diversion agreement, and probation has agreed to that.'

The judge went through the details and the lawyers for both sides put on a show of being in disagreement to let DOJ save face.

So we're basically making a big deal about a paragraph that was put in the wrong place.

1) Immunity is dealt with in the plea agreement not the diversion program agreement.

2) You rarely if ever see 'Diversion program in lieu of criminal charge' in federal criminal cases in the first place and in particular for a gun related charges.

3) Pleas agreement has to be approved by the judge but not the Diversion program and both sides agreed to put the "ambiguous and broad immunity paragraph in the Diversion agreement in effect bypassing the judge as if trying to sneak one by the Court.

4) It is unheard of to structure such a plea agreement along w/ Diversion agreement and sneaking in an immunity clause in the Diversion agreement instead of the plea agreement where it should have been in the first place.

Messed up big time.

This was the plan. They knew what they were doing and thought the judge wouldn't notice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems both the defense and the prosecution thought they could pull something over on the court.

Fortunately, this judge was more astute than they gave her credit.

In the end, he will likely still get a plea deal that will be better than any Joe Schmo in his situation would get, but you can bet it won't include blanket immunity for his other crimes.

And, I don't trust Weiss to continue to investigate Hunter. Time for a special counsel.
Weiss has shown he is not capable of an unbiased prosecution.

He has significant addiction issues that have impacted his life across almost all areas--personal and professional.

[Anonymous]

I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

Maybe he is. Hunter made tens of millions of dollars for apparently doing nothing. How many can do that? He broke all kinds of laws but will not get 1 day of jail time and complete immunity for everything else. How many can say that? he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

Maybe he is. Hunter made tens of millions of dollars for apparently doing nothing. How many can do that? He broke all kinds of laws but will not get 1 day of jail time and complete immunity for everything else. How many can say that? he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Hopefully he’ll be laughing all the way to Federal prison….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

Maybe he is. Hunter made tens of millions of dollars for apparently doing nothing. How many can do that? He broke all kinds of laws but will not get 1 day of jail time and complete immunity for everything else. How many can say that? he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes, this is what Joe views as honorable and smart.
Shows his total lack of ethics and integrity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

Maybe he is. Hunter made tens of millions of dollars for apparently doing nothing. How many can do that? He broke all kinds of laws but will not get 1 day of jail time and complete immunity for everything else. How many can say that? he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes, this is what Joe views as honorable and smart.
Shows his total lack of ethics and integrity.

When Hunter was shacking up/sleeping with Beau’s widow and Joe and Jill publicly supported them- that was a huge red flag. Not good.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

Maybe he is. Hunter made tens of millions of dollars for apparently doing nothing. How many can do that? He broke all kinds of laws but will not get 1 day of jail time and complete immunity for everything else. How many can say that? he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

Yes, this is what Joe views as honorable and smart.
Shows his total lack of ethics and integrity.

When Hunter was shacking up/sleeping with Beau’s widow and Joe and Jill publicly supported them- that was a huge red flag. Not good.

Is this actually true? If so, disgusting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought Hunter was the “smartest person I know”, according to Joe Biden.

Maybe he is. Hunter made tens of millions of dollars for apparently doing nothing. How many can do that? He broke all kinds of laws but will not get 1 day of jail time and complete immunity for everything else. How many can say that? he must be laughing all the way to the bank.

He performed duties that corporate lawyers and investment consultants perform and was well-paid as corporate lawyers and investment consultants are. He was prepared to plead guilty to the two crimes he committed but your guys blew that up chasing fantasy charges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn't the HB's attorneys speak up during the hearing if they had a verbal agreement as to the immunity covering the FARA charge and other related potential bribery or influence peddling related charges? They had a duty to speak up and protect their client by speaking up. Failure to speak up and protect HB would be a serious violation of the Rules of the Professional Conduct for the DC, MD and VA or wherever those attorneys are licenses.

Fraud on the court may be a problem but this violation is also a problem.

Protecting their client means playing ball with DOJ, who wanted to save face and make it look like they weren't colluding.