SCOTUS on Student Loan 9 - 0

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

I think young people are less likely to be duped by the vote buying tactics that have become such a big part of the political strategies of the Republican and Democratic parties.

Either way, there is nothing that the Republican Party has to offer them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look children, we know adulting is hard. You’ve been raised by helicopter parents who gave you the white glove treatment your entire lives, then get shocked when you’re thrown out into the real world where you learn nobody owes you nothin’, you are not entitled to anything, and you’re not special. Nobody owes you free money to borrow for college with 0% interest rates, lol. Nobody owes you student loan forgiveness, lol. You signed a contract like an adult, now live up to the agreement.


And stop comparing to the PPP. It’s really stupid. The PPP was there because the govt forced businesses to close and shutdown the whole economy. That much govt intervention into private industry required the govt to compensate business owners. If we did nothing we would have been sent back to the Great Depression. Contrast that to student loans. No one owes you anything because you stupidly choose to go to an expensive ass private Podunk U for a worthless social justice degree with an underwater basket weaving minor. We all know you probably also used your student loans to fund living in a swanky apartment complex senior year and used part of it to fund your stupid Friday night bar crawls and spring break trips.

Rather than forgive loans, we should really be removing the govt altogether from student loans and give out zero student loans. If students can’t get money easily then college will get hammered and have to reduce costs and tuition. The economy wouldn’t be hurt that bad either, because 90% of degrees are worthless anyway. Whatever would we do without art degrees, english majors, and gender studies grads? Omg!

Pay your own damn bills.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

I think young people are less likely to be duped by the vote buying tactics that have become such a big part of the political strategies of the Republican and Democratic parties.

Either way, there is nothing that the Republican Party has to offer them.

Very true. When you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, neither party in their current states have anything of value to offer anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

Like the "freebies" given to Republican members of Congress?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-shines-light-republicans-are-criticizing-student-debt-canc-rcna44904
"Reps. Vern Buchanan of Florida, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania, and Markwayne Mullin and Kevin Hern of Oklahoma — who it said had six- and seven-figure PPP loans forgiven as part of a federal program intended to help those harmed by the coronavirus."

Under Biden's student debt plan, borrowers who earn less than $125,000 a year, or $250,000 for couples who file taxes jointly, will be eligible for up to $10,000 in debt cancellation.

I've seen lots of young people who are livid, because they thought that 10k out of their 100k they owe in loans might be forgiven and might help them save enough money to eventually get a house downpayment.

Keep on helping GOP congress critters and forgiving their SIX TO SeVEN FIGURE loans and see how that works out. I mean, there's enough money Mike Kelly (R) had 987k in loans forgiven. That sum could have helped *987* younger Americans who make under 150k a year.

But, no, you just want the money for republicans and for the wealthy. We understand perfectly.

Those PPP loans were designed to be forgiven. Student loans not so much.

So already rich Congress critters (or well off people) get forgiven PPP loans in the seven figures, but we don't have enough money as a country to give struggling newish graduates a break with 10? Ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

I think young people are less likely to be duped by the vote buying tactics that have become such a big part of the political strategies of the Republican and Democratic parties.

Either way, there is nothing that the Republican Party has to offer them.

Very true. When you get down to the nuts and bolts of it, neither party in their current states have anything of value to offer anyone.

Ah both sidesism. The refuge of the mindless Republican automaton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

Like the "freebies" given to Republican members of Congress?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-shines-light-republicans-are-criticizing-student-debt-canc-rcna44904
"Reps. Vern Buchanan of Florida, Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania, and Markwayne Mullin and Kevin Hern of Oklahoma — who it said had six- and seven-figure PPP loans forgiven as part of a federal program intended to help those harmed by the coronavirus."

Under Biden's student debt plan, borrowers who earn less than $125,000 a year, or $250,000 for couples who file taxes jointly, will be eligible for up to $10,000 in debt cancellation.

I've seen lots of young people who are livid, because they thought that 10k out of their 100k they owe in loans might be forgiven and might help them save enough money to eventually get a house downpayment.

Keep on helping GOP congress critters and forgiving their SIX TO SeVEN FIGURE loans and see how that works out. I mean, there's enough money Mike Kelly (R) had 987k in loans forgiven. That sum could have helped *987* younger Americans who make under 150k a year.

But, no, you just want the money for republicans and for the wealthy. We understand perfectly.

Those PPP loans were designed to be forgiven. Student loans not so much.

So already rich Congress critters (or well off people) get forgiven PPP loans in the seven figures, but we don't have enough money as a country to give struggling newish graduates a break with 10? Ok.

Privilege protects privilege. Especially the dirty wealthy GOP.

[Anonymous]

Investment banker Ross Gerber, who took $520K in PPP with a phony description that his firm was a "motorcycle dealer," mocks proles who thought they would get some student debt forgiven.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Investment banker Ross Gerber, who took $520K in PPP with a phony description that his firm was a "motorcycle dealer," mocks proles who thought they would get some student debt forgiven.

You do realize if there was a fraud case here there would be a prosecution right? Alas, we are not awash in fraud cases involving PPP loans even with a Biden DOJ and lots of career people in that agency that have a massive boner for trying to find this kind of stuff to make a name for themselves.

It’s really astonishing this dumb argument keeps getting repeated. Perhaps not all that astonishing given the group of people most upset were too dumb to realize the complete lack of value in the “education” they were seeking and their entitled attitude to a bunch of actual handouts.

[Anonymous]

The big issue is having the government managing the loans to begin with. There would be no executive agency that would suddenly spend money to pay off student loans that people took with private banks without the government's involvement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look children, we know adulting is hard. You’ve been raised by helicopter parents who gave you the white glove treatment your entire lives, then get shocked when you’re thrown out into the real world where you learn nobody owes you nothin’, you are not entitled to anything, and you’re not special. Nobody owes you free money to borrow for college with 0% interest rates, lol. Nobody owes you student loan forgiveness, lol. You signed a contract like an adult, now live up to the agreement.


And stop comparing to the PPP. It’s really stupid. The PPP was there because the govt forced businesses to close and shutdown the whole economy. That much govt intervention into private industry required the govt to compensate business owners. If we did nothing we would have been sent back to the Great Depression. Contrast that to student loans. No one owes you anything because you stupidly choose to go to an expensive ass private Podunk U for a worthless social justice degree with an underwater basket weaving minor. We all know you probably also used your student loans to fund living in a swanky apartment complex senior year and used part of it to fund your stupid Friday night bar crawls and spring break trips.

Rather than forgive loans, we should really be removing the govt altogether from student loans and give out zero student loans. If students can’t get money easily then college will get hammered and have to reduce costs and tuition. The economy wouldn’t be hurt that bad either, because 90% of degrees are worthless anyway. Whatever would we do without art degrees, english majors, and gender studies grads? Omg!

Pay your own damn bills.

So only spoiled rich kids like yours can go to college and screw everyone else who can’t pay out of pocket? Let them eat cake, right? People like you are why this country disgusts me.

No. Why didn’t you go to community college or enlist versus leveraging yourself to the hilt on a degree that you want the taxpayers to pay for now?

Why don’t you send your kids to community college or to the military if you think it’s such a great idea?

DP but my kids went to military academies, free of charge, and greatly benefited from it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

I think young people are less likely to be duped by the vote buying tactics that have become such a big part of the political strategies of the Republican and Democratic parties.

Either way, there is nothing that the Republican Party has to offer them.

It is not about what they offer. I voted for Democrats most of my life (but I am very young). I cannot wrap my head why anyone believed that this will pass through. It makes me questioning the intelligence of young Democrats who are protesting near Supreme Court and demanding to pay their school loan. If they ever get smarter, next election they will vote Republican.

[Anonymous]

Apparently, the student loan freeze just led people to take our more auto loans and credit card debt.

https://bfi.uchicago.edu/insight/research-summary/debt-moratoria-evidence-from-student-loan-forbearance/

tl;dr: dumb people who over-leveraged themselves w/ student loans will take extra $ and over-lever themselves w/ other dumb loans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, the student loan freeze just led people to take our more auto loans and credit card debt.

https://bfi.uchicago.edu/insight/research-summary/debt-moratoria-evidence-from-student-loan-forbearance/

tl;dr: dumb people who over-leveraged themselves w/ student loans will take extra $ and over-lever themselves w/ other dumb loans

OMG!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything which turns younger people away from the GOP is fine with me. Keep on going Supreme Court and MAGA governors.

Sounds like you think freebies are the way to attract young voters?

NP. Well ignoring their problems is going to attract them!

Nobody is ignoring them.
In fact, the GOP is the party that has crafted bills to deal with the high cost of college and dealing with student debt.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4049576-senate-republicans-introduce-plan-to-tackle-student-loan-debt/

Selling organs? Or let me guess, taking a loan against your family trust?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, the student loan freeze just led people to take our more auto loans and credit card debt.

https://bfi.uchicago.edu/insight/research-summary/debt-moratoria-evidence-from-student-loan-forbearance/

tl;dr: dumb people who over-leveraged themselves w/ student loans will take extra $ and over-lever themselves w/ other dumb loans

Unpossible

The story writes itself. And it’s predictable.