Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"?

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

PP again. This what the moderator refers to as an OP asking about dogs and getting a response about cats. He specifically referenced last week's thread where an OP asked about returning to faith, and a bunch of atheists immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths.

It's disrespectful. And it has no relationship to the other case, where somebody starts a thread started to discuss whether Moses existed and people can choose to participate or not. I'm sure you can see the difference.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

PP again. This what the moderator refers to as an OP asking about dogs and getting a response about cats. He specifically referenced last week's thread where an OP asked about returning to faith, and a bunch of atheists immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths.

It's disrespectful. And it has no relationship to the other case, where somebody starts a thread started to discuss whether Moses existed and people can choose to participate or not. I'm sure you can see the difference.

Boohoo

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

Because lots of us think the Politics forum is even more of a cesspool than the Religion forum, so we don't go there to see and report abuse.

Nobody is asking you to give up your atheism. It's a simple request: don't jump onto a thread about how to return to religion to tell that OP religion is fake.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

PP again. This what the moderator refers to as an OP asking about dogs and getting a response about cats. He specifically referenced last week's thread where an OP asked about returning to faith, and a bunch of atheists immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths.

It's disrespectful. And it has no relationship to the other case, where somebody starts a thread started to discuss whether Moses existed and people can choose to participate or not. I'm sure you can see the difference.

Boohoo

^^^ Troll who is going to keep insulting people of faith and then whine that people don't respect atheists.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been said many times on this thread but bears repeating:

If somebody tells you your behavior is insulting, then it's insulting. Your own reasons for being an atheist and Richard Dawkins are irrelevant.

Just show respect to others and stop being an a$$hat by dissing peoples' faith. Especially if you want respect yourself.

I find your post insulting.

So you're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because you can, because it's an anonymous forum. You've made that very clear. Got it.

I find this misrepresentation of my position insulting.

Boohoo

Boohoo is an appropriate response to a troll, which you are. It's not an appropriate response to somebody who is making a thoughtful argument.

Begone, troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

PP again. This what the moderator refers to as an OP asking about dogs and getting a response about cats. He specifically referenced last week's thread where an OP asked about returning to faith, and a bunch of atheists immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths.

It's disrespectful. And it has no relationship to the other case, where somebody starts a thread started to discuss whether Moses existed and people can choose to participate or not. I'm sure you can see the difference.

That's not true. The opposite happened in fact - a belligerent believer immediately jumped on her and repeatedly accused her being a troll. Of course her post was was sincere and some did try to help -- but if anyone derailed it was that nasty person. No one "immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths." It's very difficult to talk to someone who just makes sh*t up.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

Because lots of us think the Politics forum is even more of a cesspool than the Religion forum, so we don't go there to see and report abuse.

Nobody is asking you to give up your atheism. It's a simple request: don't jump onto a thread about how to return to religion to tell that OP religion is fake.

Those are your words liar. It never happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

PP again. This what the moderator refers to as an OP asking about dogs and getting a response about cats. He specifically referenced last week's thread where an OP asked about returning to faith, and a bunch of atheists immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths.

It's disrespectful. And it has no relationship to the other case, where somebody starts a thread started to discuss whether Moses existed and people can choose to participate or not. I'm sure you can see the difference.

That's not true. The opposite happened in fact - a belligerent believer immediately jumped on her and repeatedly accused her being a troll. Of course her post was was sincere and some did try to help -- but if anyone derailed it was that nasty person. No one "immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths." It's very difficult to talk to someone who just makes sh*t up.

It was a sh!t show. There was a belligerent believer but there were also many nasty atheists. The belligerent believer ultimately packed up and went home. The atheists remained, and are on this thread trying to justify why they jump onto every thread about religion to inform us it's a myth.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

At least one atheist here has whined that atheists don't get the same respect as believers and that's "hypocritical." Ignoring, of course, that people don't like DCUM's atheists because they're disrespectful.

I assume you know the difference, but I'll repeat it anyway.

The point is, there are respectful and non-respectful ways to approach these subjects. Sure, start a thread about whether Moses existed and people of faith can participate or not as they choose.

But what happens here all the time is that atheists hop onto a thread about what synagogue or church to try out and snark "it's all a myth." Nobody asked for their opinion.

PP again. This what the moderator refers to as an OP asking about dogs and getting a response about cats. He specifically referenced last week's thread where an OP asked about returning to faith, and a bunch of atheists immediately jumped on to tell her God/religion are myths.

It's disrespectful. And it has no relationship to the other case, where somebody starts a thread started to discuss whether Moses existed and people can choose to participate or not. I'm sure you can see the difference.

Boohoo

^^^ Troll who is going to keep insulting people of faith and then whine that people don't respect atheists.

Nope. The first “boohoo” was in the other direction. Why didn’t you criticize that one? Was it you that posted it?

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

Because lots of us think the Politics forum is even more of a cesspool than the Religion forum, so we don't go there to see and report abuse.

Nobody is asking you to give up your atheism. It's a simple request: don't jump onto a thread about how to return to religion to tell that OP religion is fake.

Those are your words liar. It never happened.

Nice ad hominems. And you're the liar: the moderator deleted many of your posts from that thread, and you also tried to make the case that Jesus was anti-women, all on the first page.

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

I don't whine that atheists are dissed. I don't know what you are talking about. There are so many worldviews, and Christian Deism is but one of them. It seems they all have their strengths and weaknesses, but I'm convinced that the supernatural deities are all largely mythical. It can't be helped that some people are offended by that, but it's a widely held belief among modern well educated people. I know it's kinda like walking on eggshells to even discuss this, someone is gonna get offended - so maybe it shouldn't even be discussed.

Isn’t that crazy to even suggest that it not be discussed? Why shouldn’t you be able to express your belief here if others can?

It was not that long ago it was offensive to talk about races being equal and smoking being bad for you. Should those topics not have been discussed?

Well I can see how asking whether it's insulting to refer to "god (lower case) as a myth" is gonna stir up a hornet's nest. Notice how many posts got deleted from this thread? It's like discourse in society generally these days, there are just more and more things you can't say because they're gonna offend someone. Myself, I'm a huge fan of mythology and read a lot about it so I don't see that term as pejorative, but apparently that's offensive to some and I see no reason to deliberately offend people. [Having said that I gotta say the politics forum is much much worse and it seems insulting references to peoples' beliefs are more tolerated on there. I'm not sure why].

Because lots of us think the Politics forum is even more of a cesspool than the Religion forum, so we don't go there to see and report abuse.

Nobody is asking you to give up your atheism. It's a simple request: don't jump onto a thread about how to return to religion to tell that OP religion is fake.

Those are your words liar. It never happened.

Nice ad hominems. And you're the liar: the moderator deleted many of your posts from that thread, and you also tried to make the case that Jesus was anti-women, all on the first page.

The moderator even said, OP was asking about cats and atheists were talking about dogs and had nothing to contribute to the thread.