Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's been said many times on this thread but bears repeating:

If somebody tells you your behavior is insulting, then it's insulting. Your own reasons for being an atheist and Richard Dawkins are irrelevant.

Just show respect to others and stop being an a$$hat by dissing peoples' faith. Especially if you want respect yourself.

I find your post insulting.

So you're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because you can, because it's an anonymous forum. You've made that very clear. Got it.

PP again. And then you're going to whine about atheists being criticized on DCUM, because you refuse to understand that it's about your behavior not about your atheism. Got that too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been said many times on this thread but bears repeating:

If somebody tells you your behavior is insulting, then it's insulting. Your own reasons for being an atheist and Richard Dawkins are irrelevant.

Just show respect to others and stop being an a$$hat by dissing peoples' faith. Especially if you want respect yourself.

I find your post insulting.

So you're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because you can, because it's an anonymous forum. You've made that very clear. Got it.

I find this misrepresentation of my position insulting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been said many times on this thread but bears repeating:

If somebody tells you your behavior is insulting, then it's insulting. Your own reasons for being an atheist and Richard Dawkins are irrelevant.

Just show respect to others and stop being an a$$hat by dissing peoples' faith. Especially if you want respect yourself.

I find your post insulting.

So you're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because you can, because it's an anonymous forum. You've made that very clear. Got it.

I find this misrepresentation of my position insulting.

Boohoo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been said many times on this thread but bears repeating:

If somebody tells you your behavior is insulting, then it's insulting. Your own reasons for being an atheist and Richard Dawkins are irrelevant.

Just show respect to others and stop being an a$$hat by dissing peoples' faith. Especially if you want respect yourself.

I find your post insulting.

So you're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because you can, because it's an anonymous forum. You've made that very clear. Got it.

I find this misrepresentation of my position insulting.

Boohoo

But a previous poster said if someone says it’s insulting then it’s insulting.

Are we just allowed to say boo-hoo when someone is insulted? Good to know. I’m gonna try that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

[Anonymous]

This thread has reached it's sell-by date and it's now just an atheist(s) trolling.

To recap: OP asked about a behavioral issue: whether it's OK to call somebody's God a "myth." OP didn't ask whether it's OK to think somebody's God is a myth (and presumably we all agree it's OK to think that). OP asked specifically about behavior towards people of faith.

Believers here think that respect is important. If somebody says they're insulted, then respect that.

Some atheists here are down with that and one even pointed out that OP's use of "god" not "God" showed she was just here to stir the pot.

Other atheists here insist they're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because they can, because it's an anonymous forum, as one helpfully pointed out. Some pursued this argument using very narrow definitions of "religion" and "myth" that ignore how these terms are commonly understood by many others. At the same time, these particular atheists will continue to whine that people here criticize atheists, while refusing to accept that it's not because of their atheism per se, instead they're criticized because of this very behavior.

You're welcome.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has reached it's sell-by date and it's now just an atheist(s) trolling.

To recap: OP asked about a behavioral issue: whether it's OK to call somebody's God a "myth." OP didn't ask whether it's OK to think somebody's God is a myth (and presumably we all agree it's OK to think that). OP asked specifically about behavior towards people of faith.

Believers here think that respect is important. If somebody says they're insulted, then respect that.

Some atheists here are down with that and one even pointed out that OP's use of "god" not "God" showed she was just here to stir the pot.

Other atheists here insist they're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because they can, because it's an anonymous forum, as one helpfully pointed out. Some pursued this argument using very narrow definitions of "religion" and "myth" that ignore how these terms are commonly understood by many others. At the same time, these particular atheists will continue to whine that people here criticize atheists, while refusing to accept that it's not because of their atheism per se, instead they're criticized because of this very behavior.

You're welcome.

You don't think the question should have been asked? It came up on the other thread where OP asked whether people are insulted when god is called a myth? The answer is yes, apparently. Then OP asked why? I still haven't heard the answer to that, other than we just are that's why. Ok, fine. That's your answer.

[Anonymous]

Grammarly and Merriam-Webster were invoked to make the points in 10:49. For those that still care:

Grammarly on the difference between god and God, and how OP's use of lower-case god was disrespectful (thanks to an atheist for this): https://grammarist.com/style/god-capitalization/

Merriam-Webster on how the term "myth" can mean the pejorative "false": https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myth

Merriam-Webster on how the term "religion" means more than just the institutions, it can mean a system of faith: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has reached it's sell-by date and it's now just an atheist(s) trolling.

To recap: OP asked about a behavioral issue: whether it's OK to call somebody's God a "myth." OP didn't ask whether it's OK to think somebody's God is a myth (and presumably we all agree it's OK to think that). OP asked specifically about behavior towards people of faith.

Believers here think that respect is important. If somebody says they're insulted, then respect that.

Some atheists here are down with that and one even pointed out that OP's use of "god" not "God" showed she was just here to stir the pot.

Other atheists here insist they're going to continue to insult believers on DCUM by calling their God a "myth." Because they can, because it's an anonymous forum, as one helpfully pointed out. Some pursued this argument using very narrow definitions of "religion" and "myth" that ignore how these terms are commonly understood by many others. At the same time, these particular atheists will continue to whine that people here criticize atheists, while refusing to accept that it's not because of their atheism per se, instead they're criticized because of this very behavior.

You're welcome.

You don't think the question should have been asked? It came up on the other thread where OP asked whether people are insulted when god is called a myth? The answer is yes, apparently. Then OP asked why? I still haven't heard the answer to that, other than we just are that's why. Ok, fine. That's your answer.

Do you really need to ask this?

People are insulted because they don't think their religion is a myth. This point has been repeated over and over on this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grammarly and Merriam-Webster were invoked to make the points in 10:49. For those that still care:

Grammarly on the difference between god and God, and how OP's use of lower-case god was disrespectful (thanks to an atheist for this): https://grammarist.com/style/god-capitalization/

Merriam-Webster on how the term "myth" can mean the pejorative "false": https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myth

Merriam-Webster on how the term "religion" means more than just the institutions, it can mean a system of faith: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

? it is a system of faith, like Hinduism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, so many different faiths, they're as numerous as the human mind can conceive.

[Anonymous]

I have lived in various countries with different religious beliefs - I don't find it hard to act in a respectful way to others, even if I don't share their beliefs.

I find outright disrespect of anyone's beliefs to be a trait that means I distance myself from that person. Outright hatred or mocking or using Jesus Christ as a curse word or Islamophobic statements. Those to me are just tells of a person I will stay far away from.

It isn't hard to be a decent human and not act in ways that intentionally disrespect others. I don't care what anyone personally believes or doesn't believe and they can voice that in respectful ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Religion is based on faith. I can completely respect that. But as Richard Dawkins so astutely said, you don't need faith if you have evidence. Or to put it the other way, if you have any evidence to support your beliefs why would you need "faith."?

This isn't a thread to discuss Richard Dawkins or your atheism. [b]It's a thread about your behavior.

Who are you talking to? What behavior? Be specific please so I know what you are talking about.

Are you a troll? OP asked "Is it 'insulting' to refer to god (sic) as 'mythical'?" That's about behavior.

What's that got to do with me? That question arose on the other thread, and the OP followed up here when someone said to start a new thread. I get it that many people are in fact offended -- but reasonable minds can differ as to whether they should be.

Stop trying to derail. And no, reasonable minds do not think it's OK to insult anybody, what's wrong with you?

Because they shouldn't be offended. Myth isn't a dirty word and the bible is full of mythical stories. When those are stripped away, there is legitimate value in reading of Jesus's words, for example - but a lot of it is apocryphal stories that share much in common with myth. Why be offended by that?

The word "myth" has a pejorative connotation among other meanings. You skipped over the discussion above and the dictionary link.

"They shouldn't be offended" is pretty patronizing and even dishonest. When a Black person tells you they're offended by something you did, do you keep doing it?

We get it. You're going to keep insulting people of faith by calling their God a "myth," because you can, because it's an anonymous forum, as you've made very clear. And then you're going to whine that atheists are dissed because of this behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have lived in various countries with different religious beliefs - I don't find it hard to act in a respectful way to others, even if I don't share their beliefs.

I find outright disrespect of anyone's beliefs to be a trait that means I distance myself from that person. Outright hatred or mocking or using Jesus Christ as a curse word or Islamophobic statements. Those to me are just tells of a person I will stay far away from.

It isn't hard to be a decent human and not act in ways that intentionally disrespect others. I don't care what anyone personally believes or doesn't believe and they can voice that in respectful ways.

+100. I've lived in different countries too, and I've dated hindus and muslims.

Calling God a "myth" has nothing to do with anybody's freedom to be an atheist. Nobody here has criticized atheism itself. Nobody here honestly cares what you think about Moses or Jesus or Mohammed.

What we do care about is being a decent human, and that means respecting others who have different beliefs from your own. Calling somebody else's God a "myth" doesn't qualify as decent or respectful.