BASIS DC will seek to expand to include K to 4th grade

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I just googled the locations of BASIS schools. They’re all in NYC, DC, Sillicon Valley, Phoenix & Scottsdale. If their model is go great, why aren’t there any in some rural industrial town in Pa, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis or Buffalo?

You are confusing for profit BASIS Independent Schools (NY, Silicon Valley) with the free, pure lottery charter schools. The latter are in DC, Mesa, Phoenix, Baton Rouge and a bunch of other urban environments. Troll better.

Just as there are wealthy and less wealthy areas of DC, there are UMC and poor areas of all of those cities, and where you locate makes a huge difference in which of those populations can actually get there. If you’re going to need to take 3 busses to take your kid to school, you’re probably not going to send them.

No doubt. The point you miss is why the distinction between for-profit/tuition versus lottery admission-free charters is so important. The latter are available to anyone. If they are willing to take 2 buses they have a fair shot. As opposed to to tuition or IB schools that are based on wealth and birth luck. Get it?

It’s really unclear what point you are trying to make.

Seems pretty clear to me. Your reply acted like whether a school charges tuition and has admission tests or is a charter school doesn't matter. Poster is explaining to you why there is a huge difference.

I don’t really think there’s that huge a difference if all schools are pulling a MC/UMC population…

Then you are completely ignorant on the topic. Seriously, if you think a tuition, test-in school is no different than a pure lottery charter then you are exactly the entitled W3 prick you appear to be. The idea that you think low-SES/at-risk kids won't take a bus or two or three to get to a good charter astounds. Go back to your SAHM meeting, sister.

Go ahead and post the FARMS rates for schools like Latin, BASIS, SWS and other schools that are located in places that make them difficult to access by Ward 8. I’ll wait.

Actually, I'll do it for you, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that it matters where a school is located:

Percentage of DC students that are at risk: 45.6%
At Risk kids at Latin: 13%
At Risk kids at SWS: 8%
At Risk kids at BASIS: 7%

So yeah... I do think having to take 2-3 buses to get to a school is a barrier to entry. And I do think that BASIS and Latin intentionally located in a place where they would draw fewer at risk kids. And I do think the lower percentage of at-risk kids is a large part of their success.

Signed,
BASIS parent

A whole lot of existing Latin and Basis students are going to have to take two buses to get to their campuses if the current proposed route changes carry through, per WMATA, e.g., getting rid of the D6 route.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I just googled the locations of BASIS schools. They’re all in NYC, DC, Sillicon Valley, Phoenix & Scottsdale. If their model is go great, why aren’t there any in some rural industrial town in Pa, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis or Buffalo?

You are confusing for profit BASIS Independent Schools (NY, Silicon Valley) with the free, pure lottery charter schools. The latter are in DC, Mesa, Phoenix, Baton Rouge and a bunch of other urban environments. Troll better.

Just as there are wealthy and less wealthy areas of DC, there are UMC and poor areas of all of those cities, and where you locate makes a huge difference in which of those populations can actually get there. If you’re going to need to take 3 busses to take your kid to school, you’re probably not going to send them.

No doubt. The point you miss is why the distinction between for-profit/tuition versus lottery admission-free charters is so important. The latter are available to anyone. If they are willing to take 2 buses they have a fair shot. As opposed to to tuition or IB schools that are based on wealth and birth luck. Get it?

It’s really unclear what point you are trying to make.

Seems pretty clear to me. Your reply acted like whether a school charges tuition and has admission tests or is a charter school doesn't matter. Poster is explaining to you why there is a huge difference.

I don’t really think there’s that huge a difference if all schools are pulling a MC/UMC population…

Then you are completely ignorant on the topic. Seriously, if you think a tuition, test-in school is no different than a pure lottery charter then you are exactly the entitled W3 prick you appear to be. The idea that you think low-SES/at-risk kids won't take a bus or two or three to get to a good charter astounds. Go back to your SAHM meeting, sister.

Go ahead and post the FARMS rates for schools like Latin, BASIS, SWS and other schools that are located in places that make them difficult to access by Ward 8. I’ll wait.

Actually, I'll do it for you, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that it matters where a school is located:

Percentage of DC students that are at risk: 45.6%
At Risk kids at Latin: 13%
At Risk kids at SWS: 8%
At Risk kids at BASIS: 7%

So yeah... I do think having to take 2-3 buses to get to a school is a barrier to entry. And I do think that BASIS and Latin intentionally located in a place where they would draw fewer at risk kids. And I do think the lower percentage of at-risk kids is a large part of their success.

Signed,
BASIS parent

A whole lot of existing Latin and Basis students are going to have to take two buses to get to their campuses if the current proposed route changes carry through, per WMATA, e.g., getting rid of the D6 route.

They will just ride with their big law parents (fancy ones) or GS15/SES parents downtown. Find me when they draw down 30 routes from SE.

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They should get the approval for the school in the condition that it is located in ward 7 or 8.

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Anonymous wrote:They should get the approval for the school in the condition that it is located in ward 7 or 8.

lol. Won't happen.

They are looking for a second location near the main building.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I just googled the locations of BASIS schools. They’re all in NYC, DC, Sillicon Valley, Phoenix & Scottsdale. If their model is go great, why aren’t there any in some rural industrial town in Pa, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis or Buffalo?

You are confusing for profit BASIS Independent Schools (NY, Silicon Valley) with the free, pure lottery charter schools. The latter are in DC, Mesa, Phoenix, Baton Rouge and a bunch of other urban environments. Troll better.

Just as there are wealthy and less wealthy areas of DC, there are UMC and poor areas of all of those cities, and where you locate makes a huge difference in which of those populations can actually get there. If you’re going to need to take 3 busses to take your kid to school, you’re probably not going to send them.

No doubt. The point you miss is why the distinction between for-profit/tuition versus lottery admission-free charters is so important. The latter are available to anyone. If they are willing to take 2 buses they have a fair shot. As opposed to to tuition or IB schools that are based on wealth and birth luck. Get it?

It’s really unclear what point you are trying to make.

Seems pretty clear to me. Your reply acted like whether a school charges tuition and has admission tests or is a charter school doesn't matter. Poster is explaining to you why there is a huge difference.

I don’t really think there’s that huge a difference if all schools are pulling a MC/UMC population…

Then you are completely ignorant on the topic. Seriously, if you think a tuition, test-in school is no different than a pure lottery charter then you are exactly the entitled W3 prick you appear to be. The idea that you think low-SES/at-risk kids won't take a bus or two or three to get to a good charter astounds. Go back to your SAHM meeting, sister.

Go ahead and post the FARMS rates for schools like Latin, BASIS, SWS and other schools that are located in places that make them difficult to access by Ward 8. I’ll wait.

Actually, I'll do it for you, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that it matters where a school is located:

Percentage of DC students that are at risk: 45.6%
At Risk kids at Latin: 13%
At Risk kids at SWS: 8%
At Risk kids at BASIS: 7%

So yeah... I do think having to take 2-3 buses to get to a school is a barrier to entry. And I do think that BASIS and Latin intentionally located in a place where they would draw fewer at risk kids. And I do think the lower percentage of at-risk kids is a large part of their success.

Signed,
BASIS parent

A whole lot of existing Latin and Basis students are going to have to take two buses to get to their campuses if the current proposed route changes carry through, per WMATA, e.g., getting rid of the D6 route.

They will just ride with their big law parents (fancy ones) or GS15/SES parents downtown. Find me when they draw down 30 routes from SE.

Yep. All Basis parents are Ivy-credentialed Big Law and/or GS15/SES.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I just googled the locations of BASIS schools. They’re all in NYC, DC, Sillicon Valley, Phoenix & Scottsdale. If their model is go great, why aren’t there any in some rural industrial town in Pa, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis or Buffalo?

You are confusing for profit BASIS Independent Schools (NY, Silicon Valley) with the free, pure lottery charter schools. The latter are in DC, Mesa, Phoenix, Baton Rouge and a bunch of other urban environments. Troll better.

Just as there are wealthy and less wealthy areas of DC, there are UMC and poor areas of all of those cities, and where you locate makes a huge difference in which of those populations can actually get there. If you’re going to need to take 3 busses to take your kid to school, you’re probably not going to send them.

No doubt. The point you miss is why the distinction between for-profit/tuition versus lottery admission-free charters is so important. The latter are available to anyone. If they are willing to take 2 buses they have a fair shot. As opposed to to tuition or IB schools that are based on wealth and birth luck. Get it?

It’s really unclear what point you are trying to make.

Seems pretty clear to me. Your reply acted like whether a school charges tuition and has admission tests or is a charter school doesn't matter. Poster is explaining to you why there is a huge difference.

I don’t really think there’s that huge a difference if all schools are pulling a MC/UMC population…

Then you are completely ignorant on the topic. Seriously, if you think a tuition, test-in school is no different than a pure lottery charter then you are exactly the entitled W3 prick you appear to be. The idea that you think low-SES/at-risk kids won't take a bus or two or three to get to a good charter astounds. Go back to your SAHM meeting, sister.

Go ahead and post the FARMS rates for schools like Latin, BASIS, SWS and other schools that are located in places that make them difficult to access by Ward 8. I’ll wait.

Actually, I'll do it for you, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that it matters where a school is located:

Percentage of DC students that are at risk: 45.6%
At Risk kids at Latin: 13%
At Risk kids at SWS: 8%
At Risk kids at BASIS: 7%

So yeah... I do think having to take 2-3 buses to get to a school is a barrier to entry. And I do think that BASIS and Latin intentionally located in a place where they would draw fewer at risk kids. And I do think the lower percentage of at-risk kids is a large part of their success.

Signed,
BASIS parent

A whole lot of existing Latin and Basis students are going to have to take two buses to get to their campuses if the current proposed route changes carry through, per WMATA, e.g., getting rid of the D6 route.

They will just ride with their big law parents (fancy ones) or GS15/SES parents downtown. Find me when they draw down 30 routes from SE.

Yep. All Basis parents are Ivy-credentialed Big Law and/or GS15/SES.

I wish that were the case but it’s not.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, I just googled the locations of BASIS schools. They’re all in NYC, DC, Sillicon Valley, Phoenix & Scottsdale. If their model is go great, why aren’t there any in some rural industrial town in Pa, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis or Buffalo?

You are confusing for profit BASIS Independent Schools (NY, Silicon Valley) with the free, pure lottery charter schools. The latter are in DC, Mesa, Phoenix, Baton Rouge and a bunch of other urban environments. Troll better.

Just as there are wealthy and less wealthy areas of DC, there are UMC and poor areas of all of those cities, and where you locate makes a huge difference in which of those populations can actually get there. If you’re going to need to take 3 busses to take your kid to school, you’re probably not going to send them.

No doubt. The point you miss is why the distinction between for-profit/tuition versus lottery admission-free charters is so important. The latter are available to anyone. If they are willing to take 2 buses they have a fair shot. As opposed to to tuition or IB schools that are based on wealth and birth luck. Get it?

It’s really unclear what point you are trying to make.

Seems pretty clear to me. Your reply acted like whether a school charges tuition and has admission tests or is a charter school doesn't matter. Poster is explaining to you why there is a huge difference.

I don’t really think there’s that huge a difference if all schools are pulling a MC/UMC population…

Then you are completely ignorant on the topic. Seriously, if you think a tuition, test-in school is no different than a pure lottery charter then you are exactly the entitled W3 prick you appear to be. The idea that you think low-SES/at-risk kids won't take a bus or two or three to get to a good charter astounds. Go back to your SAHM meeting, sister.

Go ahead and post the FARMS rates for schools like Latin, BASIS, SWS and other schools that are located in places that make them difficult to access by Ward 8. I’ll wait.

Actually, I'll do it for you, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that it matters where a school is located:

Percentage of DC students that are at risk: 45.6%
At Risk kids at Latin: 13%
At Risk kids at SWS: 8%
At Risk kids at BASIS: 7%

So yeah... I do think having to take 2-3 buses to get to a school is a barrier to entry. And I do think that BASIS and Latin intentionally located in a place where they would draw fewer at risk kids. And I do think the lower percentage of at-risk kids is a large part of their success.

Signed,
BASIS parent

A whole lot of existing Latin and Basis students are going to have to take two buses to get to their campuses if the current proposed route changes carry through, per WMATA, e.g., getting rid of the D6 route.

They will just ride with their big law parents (fancy ones) or GS15/SES parents downtown. Find me when they draw down 30 routes from SE.

Yep. All Basis parents are Ivy-credentialed Big Law and/or GS15/SES.

I wish that were the case but it’s not.

Ok, most.

[Anonymous]

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Very few kids repeat a grade. If a kid is struggling, each teacher offers student resource hours at least a couple times per week before or after school. So, the kid can get free tutoring there. If they still fail the course, they are given a summer packet and can attempt to retake the final. Kids are given many chances to remediate and pass. For the most part, the kids who fail are the ones who don't want to be at Basis, but have parents who are forcing them to attend.

The school definitely has special needs accommodations. They're not refusing to honor extra time accommodations or many other standard accommodations. They are, however, a rigorous school offering an accelerated program. They're not going to make an entirely separate curriculum for the kids who want or need a non-accelerated program. They also cannot kick kids out for bad behavior. They only can refuse to promote kids to the next grade level if the kid fails some classes.

I know the first paragraph is true of Basis DC as well. I think the second paragraph is also, but I would call Basis and ask these questions to confirm, if you want to know for sure.

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Very few kids repeat a grade. If a kid is struggling, each teacher offers student resource hours at least a couple times per week before or after school. So, the kid can get free tutoring there. If they still fail the course, they are given a summer packet and can attempt to retake the final. Kids are given many chances to remediate and pass. For the most part, the kids who fail are the ones who don't want to be at Basis, but have parents who are forcing them to attend.

The school definitely has special needs accommodations. They're not refusing to honor extra time accommodations or many other standard accommodations. They are, however, a rigorous school offering an accelerated program. They're not going to make an entirely separate curriculum for the kids who want or need a non-accelerated program. They also cannot kick kids out for bad behavior. They only can refuse to promote kids to the next grade level if the kid fails some classes.

I know the first paragraph is true of Basis DC as well. I think the second paragraph is also, but I would call Basis and ask these questions to confirm, if you want to know for sure.

Can confirm 2nd para also accurate at DC location. Also the 1st.

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FWIW, I have a 2E child who’s thriving at BASIS. (Diagnosis is ASD and ADHD.)

[Anonymous]

Great news! Looking forward to BASIS DC expansion.

[Anonymous]

I skipped through the Basis debates. Any more perspectives on what this means for Capitol Hill? We are in Watkins and have been interested to see more and more neighbors heading to Stuart Hobson (the enrollment data that someone posted in another thread backs this up). Given the number of Cap Hill kids that head to Basis for middle school, Basis adding a primary school seems like it would reduce middle school slots for Cap Hill kids and drive them to SH or Eliot Hine, right? SH in particular seems to be becoming a viable option quickly and I’ve heard Maury parents are increasingly sending to EH. Seems like this move by Basis will only help Cap Hill schools improve, yes? Am I understanding this correctly?

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You should go back and read early on in this thread. I raised this issue and folks responded many pages ago. You should also look at what folks have been pointing out in this thread:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1131150.page

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Yes if either of 2 things happen: 1) the expansion spreads the school thin for awhile (administration focused on staffing and building out new school to detriment of current school) leading to a bloom is off the rose effect where families hear negative things and choose to stay in their current elementary school feeder pattern because more classmates are etc.; or 2) the elementary school kids take spaces at the middle school leading to fewer open spaces available in lottery (but that is a very long-term effect because new elementary schools typically dont open K-4 day 1). This was all addressed above.

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Anonymous wrote:I skipped through the Basis debates. Any more perspectives on what this means for Capitol Hill? We are in Watkins and have been interested to see more and more neighbors heading to Stuart Hobson (the enrollment data that someone posted in another thread backs this up). Given the number of Cap Hill kids that head to Basis for middle school, Basis adding a primary school seems like it would reduce middle school slots for Cap Hill kids and drive them to SH or Eliot Hine, right? SH in particular seems to be becoming a viable option quickly and I’ve heard Maury parents are increasingly sending to EH. Seems like this move by Basis will only help Cap Hill schools improve, yes? Am I understanding this correctly?

No one knows for sure what impact this would have. The question is whether the same (CH heavy) population of kids who peel off for BASIS in 5th will do so in K. If not, presumably over time BASIS will fill up with elementary kids and those CH families won't have available seats in 5th. Those kids are going to have to go somewhere. The hope is that they might be willing to give SH or EH a try.

The alternative outcome here is that families that are today staying at CH elementary schools might decide the risk is now too great without the 135 seat BASIS escape valve. They might also realize that even if EH and SH are workable, what happens for HS? These factors could cause families to depart CH (and DC) earlier, thereby weakening the elementary cohorts that have built up the CH elementary schools.

No one knows.