It’s really unclear what point you are trying to make. |
Seems pretty clear to me. Your reply acted like whether a school charges tuition and has admission tests or is a charter school doesn't matter. Poster is explaining to you why there is a huge difference. |
I don’t really think there’s that huge a difference if all schools are pulling a MC/UMC population… |
Uhm... You live in la la land. BASIS Independent schools are selective and can kick out behavior problems/underperformers. That's pretty relevantly different even if parents have similar income levels... but also how many MC kids go to private school? |
It's like you're having a different argument. I'm not the first poster, but their point was BASIS locates itself in UMC areas (vs rural LMC areas) and then claims that their success is based on their model. That poster got accused of being a troll. But they do have a point, because even in urban areas, BASIS locates itself in areas that are in close proximity to a large population of UMC families. That's clearly at least part of the reason for their success. Also, whether it's private, test-in or the DC system of not advancing students, BASIS does have a mechanism at each school to weed out underperforming students. To be clear, I don't have any issue with this approach, because I want my kid to get a good education, and I think peer group matters. |
There are so many inaccurate statements in this thread. My kids attend a BASIS school in Arizona. Placement tests are only used for kids trying to enter the school in 6th grade or later. My kid entering in 5th did not need a placement test. My kid entering in 7th did need one, but the bar wasn't that high for placement in the appropriate grade. The only real difference between AZ Basis schools and the DC one in this respect is that DC won't allow kids to enter after 5th, whereas AZ allows kids to do so, but only after demonstrating that they're not being set up for failure.
The Basis school my kids attend is not in a UMC part of town. There are some FARMS kids (PTA takes care of their meals) and a pretty broad spectrum of SES levels. Very few kids repeat a grade. If a kid is struggling, each teacher offers student resource hours at least a couple times per week before or after school. So, the kid can get free tutoring there. If they still fail the course, they are given a summer packet and can attempt to retake the final. Kids are given many chances to remediate and pass. For the most part, the kids who fail are the ones who don't want to be at Basis, but have parents who are forcing them to attend. The school definitely has special needs accommodations. They're not refusing to honor extra time accommodations or many other standard accommodations. They are, however, a rigorous school offering an accelerated program. They're not going to make an entirely separate curriculum for the kids who want or need a non-accelerated program. They also cannot kick kids out for bad behavior. They only can refuse to promote kids to the next grade level if the kid fails some classes. |
How is this allowed due to building codes etc.? |
It is almost as thought PP's opinions are not the same as "facts"! Who knew. |
Then you are completely ignorant on the topic. Seriously, if you think a tuition, test-in school is no different than a pure lottery charter then you are exactly the entitled W3 prick you appear to be. The idea that you think low-SES/at-risk kids won't take a bus or two or three to get to a good charter astounds. Go back to your SAHM meeting, sister. |
Go ahead and post the FARMS rates for schools like Latin, BASIS, SWS and other schools that are located in places that make them difficult to access by Ward 8. I’ll wait. |
Actually, I'll do it for you, since you seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that it matters where a school is located: Percentage of DC students that are at risk: 45.6% At Risk kids at Latin: 13% At Risk kids at SWS: 8% At Risk kids at BASIS: 7% So yeah... I do think having to take 2-3 buses to get to a school is a barrier to entry. And I do think that BASIS and Latin intentionally located in a place where they would draw fewer at risk kids. And I do think the lower percentage of at-risk kids is a large part of their success. Signed, BASIS parent |
Good post. I've heard the same story from my sibling who sends her two boys, how in HS, to a BASIS AZ campus The boys started at BASIS in the 7th and 8th grades. We left BASIS before HS mainly because of high teacher turnover, weak facilities and the lack of a music program. The AZ BASIS school my nephews attend has a nice campus and a competitive music program/orchestra. |
I think you're grossly oversimplifying the cause of these schools having low FARMs rates. For example, Duke Ellington isn't actually easy to get to, but they have a FARMs rate of around 30 percent. My guess is that the BASIS model appeals most to UMC families. |
isn't especially.... |
BASIS is 100% lottery, and anyone of any income (including homeless) can apply. Duke is selective, and has specific admissions requirements and selection criteria. Not sure what your point is. More choice always good. |