Is there a term for gaslighting yourself? |
Dissociative identity disorder. |
I think atheists who don’t understand prayer, don’t have theology, history, or psychology degrees, should not pretend they are experts.
Also atheists who are bigots should be banned from posting. If I posted that Jewish people were gaslighting themselves and had a mental disorder, I am sure the post would be reported and I would receive a ban. |
You seem to think that you know a lot |
You seem to think being bigoted and disparaging about people’s religions is ok.
If religious people were saying agnostics or atheists were gaslighting themselves or had a mental disorder and disassociating, you’d point out how mean and rude they were being. You’d say oh, those Christians, they think anyone who doesn’t think as they do are crazy. But you feel so justified in calling other people’s beliefs a mental disorder. Can you not see that it’s bigotry that you are engaging in? |
This whole thread was intended to antagonize atheists. So sit down. |
Nobody on this thread has stated atheists have mental disorders or are gaslighting themselves.
Only atheists are claiming prayer is gaslighting and people who believe in prayer disassociate. And no one is telling atheists to sit down. |
Prayer isn’t gaslighting. It was the way the PP worded it that sounded…off. If you start threads disparaging atheists you will get more atheists posting here sharing their opinion. Is that your goal? |
I didn’t start this thread. This thread doesn’t disparage atheists. It discusses atheists, which apparently is offensive to you.
You called praying, gaslighting yourself. Then another poster compared prayer to a mental disorder. People post questions about religion here, and alot of atheists chime in and give their opinions. But when people ask questions about atheism, it’s antagonistic? It’s really not. You are just offended people are disagreeing with your opinions. You should not be so sensitive- especially after you called prayer “gaslighting.” |
Most atheists know more about religion than religious people know about atheism, for the simple reason that religion is so pervasive in our society -- also many atheists were once religious themselves. The fact that non-belief is growing while religious belief and observance is shrinking is indicative of interest in the subject of atheism. People, irrespective of beliefs, can become prickly when challenged. It's just human nature. There are antagonistic people who are believers and who are non-believers. I think a lot of people tune into these discussions, without commenting, to think through religion on their own. I think that's an important function of forums like this, despite, and maybe because of, some of the adolescent sparring often found here. |
Atheists don’t seem to agree about atheism. If that’s a feature not a bug, fine, but when atheists openly call prayer mental illness and emotional abuse- they are being more than prickly. It’s outright bigotry and also belittling, for religious people, abuse victims, and people struggling with mental health issues. You can pretend it’s not, but it is. I don’t see religious people here calling atheists mentally ill, or disparaging their beliefs, whatever their beliefs may be.
Religious people are told they are hateful, disrespectful of others, pedophiles, told they support pedophilia and the abuse of women, children, minorities, etc, just for having religious beliefs. I personally don’t know any religious people who support or do those things. I don’t think from reading these forums that the atheist people posting here know anything about religion. In fact, what little they know is often completely wrong. And they assume the worst about religion and religious people. No one should come to these forums to learn about religion, as the few kernels of truth are hidden deeply in pages and pages of threads full of inaccurate information and outright slander and misinformation. As the person upthread claimed Paine was an atheist, with no documentation or proof- atheists post their very often incorrect opinions about every subject. If a Christian documents a a religious statement with link and source, it’s disparaged as cut and paste. |
I didn’t say prayer was gaslighting. This thread was absolutely intended to disparage. |
There is a poster who only copy & pastes from Wikipedia and obscure sites. Ask a question about it, and she just copy & pasted something else, unrelated. Pretty funny. And then sometimes people post “research” but then when you point out that they misinterpreted the “research” then they go silent. Also funny. |
Wikipedia is a mainly and accepted source. Everything on wikipedia has footnotes from reputable sources. The obscure sites have not been found to be incorrect in any way to my knowledge. They aren’t obscure, either; they deal with religious and Biblical knowledge. You can point out misinformation and false information at any time those links are posted but do not; you or others just dismiss it as copy and paste. You or others don’t give an alternate or different interpretation. The information posted is neither obscure or incorrect. Take each post and refute it, if you feel it’s wrong. |
I have, repeatedly. Only to get another irrelevant copy & paste. There is no thought put into it at all. |