Bathroom security announcement

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I have not read the whole thread but yesterday my adult daughter told me there is a Tik Tok trend that involves challenging HS kids to "trash the bathrooms" at their schools. Do you think this is a factor in what is going on at MCPS schools?
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


That's why we need police officers patroling the school hallways. Glad ypu agree!


I think SROs are a waste of money since they've been shown to ineffective, but I will agree if crimes occur at school, then police need access and should be walking a beat.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


That's why we need police officers patroling the school hallways. Glad ypu agree!


I think SROs are a waste of money since they've been shown to ineffective, but I will agree if crimes occur at school, then police need access and should be walking a beat.


They are not ineffective and what do you propose? Violence is up since their removal.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


Well before that smoking was perfectly legal in HS. They had designated smoking areas.


It wasn't legal in my HS up in MA. Kids did it anyway. They occasionally got caught and were given detention. The world did not end.


In FCPS we had designated smoking areas where kids could light up at recess.


There is no recess.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


So MCPD can barge into the school buildings without getting approval from MCPS to monitor and police the bathrooms? Stop playing dumb.


I wasn't aware the police needed permission to enter a public building, particularly if they suspect a crime is happening. Is that some sort of law or regulation?
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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread but yesterday my adult daughter told me there is a Tik Tok trend that involves challenging HS kids to "trash the bathrooms" at their schools. Do you think this is a factor in what is going on at MCPS schools?


This has been going on for a while!

At our kids’ ES, the kids were tearing soap dispensers off the wall, and at our MS, we had some kids tear off a toilet seat.

The drugs/vaping in the bathroom are a different issue.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


That's why we need police officers patroling the school hallways. Glad ypu agree!


I think SROs are a waste of money since they've been shown to ineffective, but I will agree if crimes occur at school, then police need access and should be walking a beat.


They are not ineffective and what do you propose? Violence is up since their removal.


The kids at parkland and uvalde would beg to differ.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


So MCPD can barge into the school buildings without getting approval from MCPS to monitor and police the bathrooms? Stop playing dumb.


I wasn't aware the police needed permission to enter a public building, particularly if they suspect a crime is happening. Is that some sort of law or regulation?


You think but evidently MCPS treat schools as lawless zones where anything goes...
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


That's why we need police officers patroling the school hallways. Glad ypu agree!


I think SROs are a waste of money since they've been shown to ineffective, but I will agree if crimes occur at school, then police need access and should be walking a beat.


They are not ineffective and what do you propose? Violence is up since their removal.


The kids at parkland and uvalde would beg to differ.

Uvalde had an onslaught of cops trying to enter that classroom, but some man in a black polo and tan pants (not uniformed) held his arms up blocking the cops. A non-cop (who couldn’t get fired) grabbed his gun from his truck and fought his way into the classroom. It’s documented in the videos. The official ‘investigation’ was a complete failure.

If you care about Parkland, read “Why Meadow Died”.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


So MCPD can barge into the school buildings without getting approval from MCPS to monitor and police the bathrooms? Stop playing dumb.


I wasn't aware the police needed permission to enter a public building, particularly if they suspect a crime is happening. Is that some sort of law or regulation?


If you're aware of a situation where police randomly, unexpectedly patrol and sweep school buildings then I'm all ears. But that obviously isn't the norm as they police rely on the schools to call and alert them to suspected crime, hence why SROs were installed in the first place.

If police always patrolled and covered schools, there never would have been a need to station a police officer in a high school building in the first place.

But you know that and you're just trolling for kicks. Go play somewhere else.
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


Well before that smoking was perfectly legal in HS. They had designated smoking areas.


It wasn't legal in my HS up in MA. Kids did it anyway. They occasionally got caught and were given detention. The world did not end.


In FCPS we had designated smoking areas where kids could light up at recess.


There is no recess.


They still have lunch, isn't there a place to light up outside?
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


So MCPD can barge into the school buildings without getting approval from MCPS to monitor and police the bathrooms? Stop playing dumb.


I wasn't aware the police needed permission to enter a public building, particularly if they suspect a crime is happening. Is that some sort of law or regulation?


If you're aware of a situation where police randomly, unexpectedly patrol and sweep school buildings then I'm all ears. But that obviously isn't the norm as they police rely on the schools to call and alert them to suspected crime, hence why SROs were installed in the first place.

If police always patrolled and covered schools, there never would have been a need to station a police officer in a high school building in the first place.

But you know that and you're just trolling for kicks. Go play somewhere else.


+1Thank you!!
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Anonymous wrote:At our MS, kids get 3 bathroom passes per class period each quarter. It's up to the student to manage it. And teachers can give an emergency pass if needed.

Otherwise, kids are expected to go between classes or during lunch.

Security does go into bathrooms - sometimes.

When I started my period, I had bad cramps and diarrhea. I could not control when I needed to go to the bathroom. I remember one time I couldn't go, and I was taking a math test. I broke out in a cold sweat during the test. Luckily, I was really good at math, so I got an A on that test, but I remember rushing out to use the bathroom at the end of class, and the result was quite.. disturbing.


I just stayed home a day or two with my period as it was so bad. If I had girls I’d let them stay home.


So your solution is for female students just to miss a couple days of school each month rather than address the issue? Families can choose to do so but let’s make sure it’s actually a choice.


What issue? Sure, you may see a kid vaping once in a while but that's hardly anything to get worked up over.


Exactly. Kids smoking in the school bathrooms is hardly some new development. Kids did that in the 90s when I was in HS. And I’m sure they did it well before that too. It’s not great, but people need to get some perspective.


It was not prevalent in good schools. Depends where you attended school.


Yes it was.


Prevalent? Not at all. Didn't say it didn't happen in good schools, but it wasn't common. Our administrators had tough consequences for smoking.


It was very common but kids weren't as obvious about it. Nothing happened when you smoked or even skipped class.


PP here. I've worked in public schools at all levels for a long time. I can promise you that in our district smoking in bathrooms was not common at all. Teachers stand outside the bathrooms at breaks. The smell of smoke would result in an immediate response from one of our administrators, coaches, male custodians (if in the boys' bathroom), or campus polic officer.


Ok, but we are talking about mcps so your comment is not relevant.


Yeah, MCPS ignores smoking/vaping/drug use. The kids know they can smoke/vape/deal pills at school without any consequence. THAT is the difference. No immediate response. There is no enforcement of any rules so the kids do what they want.


Montgomery county police are knowingly turning a blind eye to drug dealing?

MCPD is no longer in the HS. Elrich, Jawando, and the rest of the progressive liberals made sure of that.


That is completely wrong. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws in this county. Schools are not lawless zones perhaps because they've abdicated their responsibility.


It sounds like MCPD is upset that they cut the SRO gravy train and are shaking down schools by adbidcating their duties to protect our children.


Exactly, MCPS is not law enforcement and If our laws are not being enforced then this falls on MCPD.


If MCPS is not referring cases where students are using substances in school bathrooms to MCPD, what do you want MCPD to do? Mind read?


Mind reading isn't required since according to the claims here these bathrooms are open air drug markets, so it's common knowledge that the law is being broken.


So MCPD can barge into the school buildings without getting approval from MCPS to monitor and police the bathrooms? Stop playing dumb.


I wasn't aware the police needed permission to enter a public building, particularly if they suspect a crime is happening. Is that some sort of law or regulation?


If you're aware of a situation where police randomly, unexpectedly patrol and sweep school buildings then I'm all ears. But that obviously isn't the norm as they police rely on the schools to call and alert them to suspected crime, hence why SROs were installed in the first place.

If police always patrolled and covered schools, there never would have been a need to station a police officer in a high school building in the first place.

But you know that and you're just trolling for kicks. Go play somewhere else.

+1 Police are not allowed to walk the hallways without admin say so, and since the SJW like Elrich don't want police to walk the hallways, MCPD can't do anything about it. And how would they know when, exactly which HS/bathroom have kids doing drugs unless someone in the HS alerts them quickly? By the time they respond, the kids would be long gone from the bathroom.

That's why having SROs walk the hallways makes sense if you are serious about getting kids to stop doing drugs in school. Those kids aren't scared of security guards, admins or teachers because they know that all the school will do is make you go through RJ, which all the kids see as a joke.
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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the whole thread but yesterday my adult daughter told me there is a Tik Tok trend that involves challenging HS kids to "trash the bathrooms" at their schools. Do you think this is a factor in what is going on at MCPS schools?

That's so 2021-22.
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