TJ admissions decision - repercussions for Class of 2026

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

Why would FCPS do that given their stated goals? Lotteries are legal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

Why would FCPS do that given their stated goals? Lotteries are legal.

The lottery was already shot down. The school board knows they can't use it. That would cause a riot in the streets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

There are AAP students in every pyramid. Presumably, most of the gifted math and science students were in AAP. There are probably some that weren't, they should be able to succeed at TJ. (Not surprising that some are having a difficult time, after the last two years. This year is hardly representative of anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

There are AAP students in every pyramid. Presumably, most of the gifted math and science students were in AAP. There are probably some that weren't, they should be able to succeed at TJ. (Not surprising that some are having a difficult time, after the last two years. This year is hardly representative of anything.

MVHS doesn't have middle school AAP in its pyramid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

There are AAP students in every pyramid. Presumably, most of the gifted math and science students were in AAP. There are probably some that weren't, they should be able to succeed at TJ. (Not surprising that some are having a difficult time, after the last two years. This year is hardly representative of anything.

MVHS doesn't have middle school AAP in its pyramid.

Students from underrepresented schools were given bonus points to tip their application in favor of other students. So a Gen Ed student from such a school that is not as qualified would get in ahead of a higher performing AAP Cooper student for example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

There are AAP students in every pyramid. Presumably, most of the gifted math and science students were in AAP. There are probably some that weren't, they should be able to succeed at TJ. (Not surprising that some are having a difficult time, after the last two years. This year is hardly representative of anything.

MVHS doesn't have middle school AAP in its pyramid.

Neither does LCPS or APS. Is there no Alg I H in the MVHS pyramid, for 7th or for 8th? I'm not that familiar with it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

Citation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, they'll just use what they have without the proxy discrimination of the 1.5% and experience factors.

The geographic distribution was the best part of the new admissions plan. The experience factors should certainly be left out.

It is very good in theory. In practice, the non-AAP students are having a difficult time. They are in the same classes with high performing students who can do the work. What do you think is the result?

There are AAP students in every pyramid. Presumably, most of the gifted math and science students were in AAP. There are probably some that weren't, they should be able to succeed at TJ. (Not surprising that some are having a difficult time, after the last two years. This year is hardly representative of anything.

MVHS doesn't have middle school AAP in its pyramid.

Students from underrepresented schools were given bonus points to tip their application in favor of other students. So a Gen Ed student from such a school that is not as qualified would get in ahead of a higher performing AAP Cooper student for example.

This is one of the items in the process that I had a major problem with, even as a vocal pro-reform advocate. It didn't make sense for them to add an additional "underrepresented schools" experience factor given that they were already using the 1.5% rule to allocate the top positions in the pool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

1) You’d pretty much destroy every non-STEM extracurricular at the school - which are a significant part of the school’s culture

2) You’d eliminate a crucial adjustment year for kids to figure out how to navigate the rigor of TJ.

3) No more IBET, which, in addition to the design and tech class that introduces many students (however easily) to principles of engineering also gives them a core group of students to build networks around.

+1000 For all of these reasons, plus there's a significant number of kids (my DS was among them) who are just more than ready to get to TJ. I feel so bad for the kids who are caught up in this mess, created by a group of people who never had the kids' best interests in mind. Asra knows this better than most TJ parents.

It's disgusting that you would throw around words like "disgusting" so casually when things don't go your way. Grow up. Do better.

It's beyond disgusting that she is using so many students as pawns in her political games.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

1) You’d pretty much destroy every non-STEM extracurricular at the school - which are a significant part of the school’s culture

2) You’d eliminate a crucial adjustment year for kids to figure out how to navigate the rigor of TJ.

3) No more IBET, which, in addition to the design and tech class that introduces many students (however easily) to principles of engineering also gives them a core group of students to build networks around.

+1000 For all of these reasons, plus there's a significant number of kids (my DS was among them) who are just more than ready to get to TJ. I feel so bad for the kids who are caught up in this mess, created by a group of people who never had the kids' best interests in mind. Asra knows this better than most TJ parents.

It's beyond disgusting that she is using so many students as pawns in her political games.

It's disgusting that you would throw around words like "disgusting" so casually when things don't go your way. Grow up. Do better.

I guess you are OK if Asra uses our kids as pawns for her political Trumphumper games.

I'm not. It's disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

1) You’d pretty much destroy every non-STEM extracurricular at the school - which are a significant part of the school’s culture

2) You’d eliminate a crucial adjustment year for kids to figure out how to navigate the rigor of TJ.

3) No more IBET, which, in addition to the design and tech class that introduces many students (however easily) to principles of engineering also gives them a core group of students to build networks around.

+1000 For all of these reasons, plus there's a significant number of kids (my DS was among them) who are just more than ready to get to TJ. I feel so bad for the kids who are caught up in this mess, created by a group of people who never had the kids' best interests in mind. Asra knows this better than most TJ parents.

It's beyond disgusting that she is using so many students as pawns in her political games.

It's disgusting that you would throw around words like "disgusting" so casually when things don't go your way. Grow up. Do better.

I guess you are OK if Asra uses our kids as pawns for her political Trumphumper games.

I'm not. It's disgusting.

I guess you are fine with racist SB members practicing racial discrimination against Asian students. Do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

1) You’d pretty much destroy every non-STEM extracurricular at the school - which are a significant part of the school’s culture

2) You’d eliminate a crucial adjustment year for kids to figure out how to navigate the rigor of TJ.

3) No more IBET, which, in addition to the design and tech class that introduces many students (however easily) to principles of engineering also gives them a core group of students to build networks around.

+1000 For all of these reasons, plus there's a significant number of kids (my DS was among them) who are just more than ready to get to TJ. I feel so bad for the kids who are caught up in this mess, created by a group of people who never had the kids' best interests in mind. Asra knows this better than most TJ parents.

It's beyond disgusting that she is using so many students as pawns in her political games.

It's disgusting that you would throw around words like "disgusting" so casually when things don't go your way. Grow up. Do better.

I guess you are OK if Asra uses our kids as pawns for her political Trumphumper games.

I'm not. It's disgusting.

I guess you are fine with racist SB members practicing racial discrimination against Asian students. Do better.

The current admissions policy is less racist than the previous one. The SB behaved poorly, but the admissions process itself is a step in the right direction.

And Asra is still a Trumphumper using our kids to push her GOP wedge issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

1) You’d pretty much destroy every non-STEM extracurricular at the school - which are a significant part of the school’s culture

2) You’d eliminate a crucial adjustment year for kids to figure out how to navigate the rigor of TJ.

3) No more IBET, which, in addition to the design and tech class that introduces many students (however easily) to principles of engineering also gives them a core group of students to build networks around.

+1000 For all of these reasons, plus there's a significant number of kids (my DS was among them) who are just more than ready to get to TJ. I feel so bad for the kids who are caught up in this mess, created by a group of people who never had the kids' best interests in mind. Asra knows this better than most TJ parents.

It's beyond disgusting that she is using so many students as pawns in her political games.

It's disgusting that you would throw around words like "disgusting" so casually when things don't go your way. Grow up. Do better.

I guess you are OK if Asra uses our kids as pawns for her political Trumphumper games.

I'm not. It's disgusting.

I guess you are fine with racist SB members practicing racial discrimination against Asian students. Do better.

The current admissions policy is less racist than the previous one. The SB behaved poorly, but the admissions process itself is a step in the right direction.

And Asra is still a Trumphumper using our kids to push her GOP wedge issues.

Nah. School board members are the legally proven in a court of law RACISTS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the of converting TJ to 10th-12th and being able to serve 33% more students through the program on the face of it, but do wonder if there are strong arguments against this that aren’t on my radar. I’d consider any argument about needing to form community or the minor disruption of a student spending 1 year at base HS to be weak arguments, but there may be stronger ones I’m overlooking. Anyone have we’ll-reasoned arguments against this type of change?

1) You’d pretty much destroy every non-STEM extracurricular at the school - which are a significant part of the school’s culture

2) You’d eliminate a crucial adjustment year for kids to figure out how to navigate the rigor of TJ.

3) No more IBET, which, in addition to the design and tech class that introduces many students (however easily) to principles of engineering also gives them a core group of students to build networks around.

+1000 For all of these reasons, plus there's a significant number of kids (my DS was among them) who are just more than ready to get to TJ. I feel so bad for the kids who are caught up in this mess, created by a group of people who never had the kids' best interests in mind. Asra knows this better than most TJ parents.

It's beyond disgusting that she is using so many students as pawns in her political games.

It's disgusting that you would throw around words like "disgusting" so casually when things don't go your way. Grow up. Do better.

I guess you are OK if Asra uses our kids as pawns for her political Trumphumper games.

I'm not. It's disgusting.

I guess you are fine with racist SB members practicing racial discrimination against Asian students. Do better.

The current admissions policy is less racist than the previous one. The SB behaved poorly, but the admissions process itself is a step in the right direction.

And Asra is still a Trumphumper using our kids to push her GOP wedge issues.

I have voted for Democratic candidates far, far more often than I've voted for Republicans, but I dismiss out of hand arguments coming from anyone who uses the term "Trumphumper," because it tells me the person is just a party hack looking to sing to the choir rather than have an honest discussion.

That sh*t may work with the FCDC insiders (Kiraly, Graham, Schoradt, Hampton, Bierman, etc.) It does nothing for the rest of us.