Mary Cheh wants to make it legal for bicyclists for blow stop signs and stop lights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the stats on who uses bikes in D.C.? It's basically only white people.

More than 25 percent of kids in D.C. live in poverty. We dont have the money to lift poor black children out of poverty but we have all the money under the sun for white guys on bikes..

Source, please. That sounds like fabricated BS from behind the windshield of your Tahoe on your commute from Palisades.

Are you joking? You must be new here. Studies as well as user data from Capital Bikeshare have consistently shown that between 80 and 90 percent of people who rides bikes in Washington D.C. are white (and this in "Chocolate City"). Blacks are far more likely to drive than whites. Blacks are also far more likely than whites to be ticketed by that automatic speed cameras that bicyclists are clamoring to expand.

Every single thing about bikes lanes in Washington D.C. screams white privilege.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Trends-and-determinants-of-cycling-in-the-DC-Buehler-Hamre/93cd6416ab5e635e29c4d173267a831002c1015c

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/the-demographics-of-walking-and-biking-to-work/

https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

White people love bike lanes, even more than they love moleskin notebooks, even more than they love complicated drinks from Starbucks, even more than they love playing kickball with other people who aren't children.

As a white person who doesn't like being hit by cars (even though the one time I was hit by a car on my bike, it was in a bike lane), yes, it's true, I do like bike lanes. FWIW, I dislike the other things on this list.

Common sense (and your mother) will tell you that it's not safe to ride a bike on the streets of a major American city.

It would be perfectly safe if the drivers would not do things like drive in the bike lanes. Not sure how it's my fault that I got hit while riding my bike in a part of the road that cars are expressly supposed to be prohibited from entering.

Well we weren't there so we don't know the whole story but I would refer you back to the sage wisdom that riding a bike around lots of bigger faster cars might be a bit dangerous. Doesn't matter if you think it shouldn't be. It is.

Which is why cyclists want dedicated bike lanes, so they aren't in the same space as cars. Same reason pedestrians want sidewalks- so they don't have to walk down a road with a driver with a murder wish not caring if they hit people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

Here's a sampling of bike related expenditures in the city's 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

That's just for one year.

Next time you're riding around in your billion dollar bike lanes, going to some farmers market to buy hate-free parsley, take a second to consider that one-quarter of all children in Washington D.C. live in poverty.

We have all the money in the work for 25 year old white guys who refuse to ride the bus or subway or walk or drive, but not so much for poor black toddlers in Anacostia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

Here's a sampling of bike related expenditures in the city's 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

That's just for one year.

Next time you're riding around in your billion dollar bike lanes, going to some farmers market to buy hate-free parsley, take a second to consider that one-quarter of all children in Washington D.C. live in poverty.

We have all the money in the work for 25 year old white guys who refuse to ride the bus or subway or walk or drive, but not so much for poor black toddlers in Anacostia.

Frame this and hang it in the faux concern hall of fame

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

Here's a sampling of bike related expenditures in the city's 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

That's just for one year.

Next time you're riding around in your billion dollar bike lanes, going to some farmers market to buy hate-free parsley, take a second to consider that one-quarter of all children in Washington D.C. live in poverty.

We have all the money in the work for 25 year old white guys who refuse to ride the bus or subway or walk or drive, but not so much for poor black toddlers in Anacostia.

Yup, those are the only possible things to spend money on, bike lanes or poor black toddlers, you've really nailed the exact dynamics of D.C.'s local political economy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

Here's a sampling of bike related expenditures in the city's 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

That's just for one year.

Next time you're riding around in your billion dollar bike lanes, going to some farmers market to buy hate-free parsley, take a second to consider that one-quarter of all children in Washington D.C. live in poverty.

We have all the money in the work for 25 year old white guys who refuse to ride the bus or subway or walk or drive, but not so much for poor black toddlers in Anacostia.

Is this a joke? Is this some museum-grade satire that's just going over my head?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

Here's a sampling of bike related expenditures in the city's 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

That's just for one year.

Next time you're riding around in your billion dollar bike lanes, going to some farmers market to buy hate-free parsley, take a second to consider that one-quarter of all children in Washington D.C. live in poverty.

We have all the money in the work for 25 year old white guys who refuse to ride the bus or subway or walk or drive, but not so much for poor black toddlers in Anacostia.

Is this a joke? Is this some museum-grade satire that's just going over my head?

The biggest problem with it is that they don't realize this is all being pushed by older Xers and younger Boomers not millennials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions? have a cite for that?

Of course they don't. They're just triggered whenever they're stuck in traffic and a cyclist whizzes by in a bike lane, and will invent whatever statistics it takes to justify their position that dedicated infrastructure for cyclists is bad.

Here's a sampling of bike related expenditures in the city's 2023 budget:

$36 million to expand bike lanes
$15 million to expand Capital Bikeshare
$1.3 million to hire people to clean bike lanes
$57 million to make K Street more bike/bus friendly
$21 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$18.5 million to build bike/pedestrian bridge
$120,000 to buy electric bikes

That's just for one year.

Next time you're riding around in your billion dollar bike lanes, going to some farmers market to buy hate-free parsley, take a second to consider that one-quarter of all children in Washington D.C. live in poverty.

We have all the money in the work for 25 year old white guys who refuse to ride the bus or subway or walk or drive, but not so much for poor black toddlers in Anacostia.

That totals a bit more than $100M

The bulk of that is K Street, which is not just about bikes. So I ask again, where are these BILLIONS (as asserted) being spent on biking infrastructure.

Also, Capital Bikeshare is not biking infrastructure, and question, would you prefer all those using it drive instead? Because THAT would really clog the roads.

[Anonymous]

Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

Have you ever asked someone why?

It would be like someone who only bikes wondering incredulously why you don't drive exclusively on all the highways that we spend billions making for you. Kind of dumb, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

+1,000,000

militant bicyclists are one of the worst sorts of humans. All me me me me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

+1,000,000

militant bicyclists are one of the worst sorts of humans. All me me me me

People who drive cars are so selfless. Like, we should award sainthood when you buy a car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

+1,000,000

militant bicyclists are one of the worst sorts of humans. All me me me me

Yet it is the people who operate cars who control over 98% of the public space and want more. Who are the selfish ones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

+1,000,000

militant bicyclists are one of the worst sorts of humans. All me me me me

Yet it is the people who operate cars who control over 98% of the public space and want more. Who are the selfish ones?

Not to mention that drivers are the ones who are responsible for 98% of the traffic injuries and deaths, 98% of congestions, and 98% of emissions. I can't think of a group that does all that and yet wants more, more, more.

All me me me me, indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why spend another penny when cyclists disdain the already existing infrastructure? Here in the burbs we have many trails and bikers ride on the street directly adjacent to them and then complain about car traffic. The majority of these selfish entitled jerks are biking recreationally. Nothing is worse than folks who DGAF about anybody else wanting everyone else to GAF about them.

The old "perfectly good bike trail" trope.